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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



That isn't a sequel to that horrible Zetigeist film that came out a few years ago, is it?

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Mouse Bite posted:

Just watched Paradise Lost about the West Memphis Three. It was very fascinating and well done and I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet. The documentary follows the trials of three teenage boys who were accused of killing three younger children. It becomes apparent throughout the film that the boys are innocent and are acting as scapegoats for the religious leaders in the town because they dress differently, listen to Metallica, and supposedly practice Satanism.

Pretty sure it was posted already, but here's a link just in case: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/paradise-lost/

I haven't watched the follow-up documentary about Damien Echols' appeals (also at the link), but I'm very interested to see that as well.

Does anyone have any other documentaries about the bullshit surrounding fear of the occult and Satanism? I've always been interested in the Salem Witch Trials and its modern equivalents like the McMartin daycare scandal, so I wanted to see what else is out there.

This is one of the rare celebrity causes I can get behind, Eddie Vedder and Metallica, Henry Rollins and some other folks have bene trying to help these kids get an appeal, especially as the film suggests the stepdad of one of the kids did it. Also CNN recently did a two part(it may have been more) on the story and came to many of the same conclusions. I'm fairly certain these kids didn't do it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I live in Thunder Bay, and things have come to a head on the issue: It's making headlines, and they're trying to find better housing solutions for the kids who come from fly in communities. People who come from fly in communities get blamed for drat near all the crime around here. Mac's (a popular canadian convenince store franchise) was robbed something like 30 times in 2011. It got worse after they opened a 24 hr. store 2 blocks away from the location that got robbed the most.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jan 4, 2012

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Toriori posted:

I got in an argument with a friends mother about kids from fly in reserves who go to boarding homes, and how I had talked with a teacher who knew a student whose boarding parents put a padlock on their fridge when they weren't home so the kid and his friends wouldn't eat all the food. Her (the friends mom) response was that she had a friend who was a foster parent and when she'd have emergency foster kids in the house they would just go to town, devouring everything in sight so they had to lock the food up.
Really? I mean in terms of money I can see why it makes sense but don't bother being an emergency foster parent or a boarding parent then be surprised when the kid in your house is ravenous because they probably don't even know what it's like to have a fridge full of food.

As somebody who once had to guilt a foster parent of a special needs person (who was from one of those fly-in communities) into giving him a more substantial lunch so he'd quit taking food from other special needs people, I'd like to act like this suprises me but it doesn't. I also had to guilt that same foster parent into allowing him to go to special music lessons, even after the music teacher who offered them was willing to give a discount due to previously being my co-op employer in high school. Thunder Bay is A hosed UP city, and it's getting worse, I hear about poo poo like this all the time, and I'm not even in social work anymore.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I watched a pretty good documentary about Straight Edge via National Geo on youtube a while back, any other suggestions?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qilWFyiogvA

This is a film from ESPN'S 30 for 30 project. For ESPN'S 30th birthday, ESPN approached 30 directors to make a sports documentary about the subject of their choice, as long as it was a sports story from the last 30 years. This film is about NFL player Ricky Williams, a very talented but mercurial player who was suspended several times for drug abuse (specifically pot), which he was using partly to treat his social anxiety (which was so bad he would regularly do interviews with his helmet and face visor still on in the locker room). The film covers his sudden departure from the league, his adversarial relationship with the modern idea of being an athlete, his withdrawal from fatherhood, his difficulty staying faithful to his wife, his interets in yoga, and what many saw as his redemption. This is his story.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Absolutely, but this one and Once Brothers are my faves.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Here's a good but short one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB4BkouWP8M

Here's a longer one by Nat Geo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4HmA41Vz30

I find the Yakuza fascinating. They get away with so much more, and did a much better job of integrating themselves into everyday society then the mob, who are basically all but dead in North America.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Pretty cool to realize that many of the films discussed in this thread are distributed by Oscilloscope Laboratories, the film company owned by Adam Yauch. He also directed Gunnin' for that #1 Spot, which is quite good. Hopefully they don't suffer now that he's gone.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Irvine Welsh wrote a short story about a guy who was clearly meant to be a Saville analogue, and he made that character a child molester, as well. It was kind of an openly discussed rumour from what I've erad about it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Really enjoyed This Film is Not Yet Rated. Really felt like Dick took no prisoners but the MPA did themselves no favors.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I questioned that too but she was interesting so I didn't mind too much. I suspect that her sexuality served as motivation (given the unfair double standards about straight and gay depictions of sexuality in Hollywood) so it sorta served a purpose.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Apr 29, 2013

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Gonna recommend anybody who likes band documentaries watches the Blur doc No Distance Left To Run. Unflinchingly honest, comes with a live show DVD, good times. Made by the same folks who made the LCD Soundsystem doc.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Haerc posted:

Anyone know of any docs similar to Century of the Self? I've already watched all of Adam Curtis' other docs.

Do I have a treat for you. Adam made some shorts for Charlie Brooker (a fine doc maker, columnist and TV writer in his own right).

All of Charlie's shows, TV Ruined Your Life, Screenwipe, and Newswipe are up on youtube with Brooker's blessing due to music rights preventing them from being show on TV again.

He made:

Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe S4, E3: TV news reporters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBfeZQDo9o8

Charlie Brooker's Newswipe (season unknown): The rise of "Oh, Dear" ism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSsEqOXYbw

Charlie Brooker's Newswipe, S2, E4: Paranoia and moral panics (this is the one where he says we've all become Richard Nixon, and is the best of the 3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygyucuDeuk

Because I like the cut of yer jib, here's TV ruined Your Life, an examination by Brooker of how TV has corrupted various concepts of Humanity:

Fear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBwNyJDHsw

The Lifecycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1tVQmVj00k

Aspiration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12FGiGegfc (My favorite, especially when he rails on My Sweet 16 and Cribs)

Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm5pf1uRyYE

Progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4vICxegQCs

Knowledge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T4YTtMxbzk

Brooker also did a 6 episode run of Newswipe this year, very good. All on Youtube.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Popelmon posted:

You should watch Dear Zachary. It's also on YouTube.

You monster.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



mod sassinator posted:

Another good hip hop documentary I recently saw on Netflix instant is Biggie & Tupac, which investigates the story of their rivalry and death. The director is Nick Broomfield and he has a great confrontational yet not confrontational style.

That said, avoid the gently caress out of Kurt and Courtney, also by Broomfield.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Ropes4u posted:

Are there any similar documentaries on the whacko left?


I'm sure some Infowars stuff would fit the bill. If you're looking for a laugh, anyways.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Charlie Brooker's year in review doc is out on Dec 28 (it'll likely pop up on Youtube soon thereafter). Also, he made a doc called How Videogames Changed the World. So check youtube for both, all Brooker's stuff gets uploaded eventually.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



SeanBeansShako posted:

Considering this was the same century we burned people alive for having the slightly more conservative or liberal brand of Christianity....

I believe trephination was still considered a viable form of treating mental health issues then, too.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Charlie Brooker's 2013 wipe. Notable for the part where Jeremy Irons suggests legalized gay marriage means dads can marry their sons for the purpose of passing on their money in an easier manner. Charlie's reaction is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUSwhdp7j48

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 30, 2013

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I need to see Dogging Tales.

I was amused by the bit where Charlie talked about Sex Box. What a loving idea for a show.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



The documentary about the rise of TMNT in pop culture is pretty good. Currently on Netflix.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



SeanBeansShako posted:

On the BBC iPlayer right now, a Storyville that covers a Chinese Internet Rehab Boarding school thing for teenagers.

Like for internet addiction?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



There's a documentary on iTunes called The Bitter Buddha about Eddie Pepitone. He's a terrific comedian. Watch it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



New Charlie Brooker with a Adam Curtis segment, pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EoNsGHZD0

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The trailer made it look badass so I'm gonna see it the instant I can.

Red Army is the one about the Miracle on Ice from the Russians POV, right?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Yup. It gives me vibes like that one part of "This Was The GDR" about East German athletes.

As a huge fan of Slava Fetisov, Imma watch the poo poo out of it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Bobcat Goldthwait made a doc coming out shortly about Barry Crimmins, a standup comic who was sexually abused repeatedly as a child and went on to help people who'd been through similar trauma. Interesting for not only the subject matter, but because not only is Bobcat Goldthwait the director, but it was funded by Robin Williams before his passing.

http://www.traileraddict.com/call-me-lucky/featurette-meet-the-artists

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 12, 2015

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Netflix has a documentary about James Randi called An Honest Liar. Good stuff. Watching Uri Geller fail on national TV was kinda sad (albeit completely self-imposed).

Also it's kinda interesting how weird it is to see people smoke on TV (Carson was smoking while Geller was doing his thing).

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 6, 2015

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Some of you may have seen Dickeye and I (there's a bad brains joke in that sentence, somewhere) get excited about a documentary coming out soon-ish called Never Get Tired. It's about the band Bomb the Music Industry and more specifically about their singer Jeff Rosenstock. He invented the pay what you want approach later adopted by NIN and Radiohead. He makes great fuckin' music. And he's a really nice man!

Anyway, here's a link that has the trailer and an interview with the filmmaker and Jeff as well

http://punktastic.com/radar/never-get-tired-the-bomb-the-music-industry-story-interview-with-sara-crow-and-jeff-rosenstock/

Also, two clips from the movie

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/exclusive-clips-from-never-get-tired-the-bomb-the-music-industry-story?utm_source=noiseytwitterus

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Aug 31, 2015

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Raxivace posted:

The Paradise Lost trilogy goes really well with the slightly more detached view in West of Memphis. The first movie of the trilogy in particular is one of my favorite docs, and I think it raises some interesting questions about how involved a filmmaker can or should be in making a movie once they become involved with a story like this, even if it is in a relatively minor way.

Also I'll never look at Bojangles restaurants in the same way again.

What I find stunning is that the prosecutor for the case still believes he got it right the first time. I mean I guess I sorta understand from a pride and stubbornness perspective, but christ almighty, just man up. You can't be sued because of the Alford plea. The case's leads for the other suspects are so shaky you'll likely never find the real killer. Just admit you hosed up.

For what it's worth, I think the Byers kid's dad did it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Raxivace posted:

While I think that same dude might have done it (Terry Hobbs seems more likely to me), part of me also wonders if I'm just falling victim to the same mentality that caused the West Memphis Three to be accused in the first place. Is being convinced because of a movie or two really enough reason to think somebody murdered three children?

The difference is we're basing it on actual evidence, I think. For me it's the teeth marks and his constantly changing story regarding the knife that had his and Chris Byers DNA on it. Also, we're not sentencing anybody to death on our half-baked theories.

Help me out, is Hobbs the dude who wandered into Bojangles? Or is he the dude who suspiciously moved out of town not long after the bodies were found?

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Sep 22, 2015

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Pianist On Strike posted:

One of my favorite parts of that series is the complete 180 that Byers' dad did. Going from this stark raving mad giant redneck dude in the first two parts, with all his crazy explicit rants about what he wants to do to the accused guys, to then seemingly expressing genuine regret - it really did warm me up to the guy in the end.

Not to seem like a cynical dick, but I can't help but wonder if that isn't a very calculated attempt to deflect suspicion.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Just watched The Farm: Angola, USA (aka The Farm:Life Inside Angola Prison). So hosed up. The part where the parole board just brushes off concrete evidence of a convicts' potential innocence pissed me off.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I just watched Call me Lucky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkYG_AeRfU


That's the trailer. Watch it, please. It's very, very, very good. This is an achievement for Bobcat.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I had a thought after watching it: when Barry showed the authorities the things he'd been sent, how'd he avoid a similar situation to Pete Townsend?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Los Punks is up on Netflix now. It's about how Punk caught on in a big way with Latinos in South Central LA, and gave way to shitloads of backyard shows.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Jesus, 20 minutes into An Open Secret and I've already got chills, this is hosed up.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



5 RING SHRIMP posted:

I checked out The Other Side the other night just based off some lists I googled for best docs of 2016. It was really...interesting. I'm sure it's been discussed here but it follows a meth addict/dealer in The Deep South. The way it's filmed along with how out there the characters are and the way they talk (literally they sound like they're scripted but the best actors ever) I had to google a few times to make sure it was not a documentary. It's super surreal and there's some pretty loving awful stuff in it very pregnant stripper shooting up, meth addict sex and a ton of (one) cock. The second part follows a kind of militia group in what I assume to be the same area that isn't as interesting but would have probably been good on its own and presented in more of a Cartel Land/Narco Cultura way. It's incredibly harrowing and as hosed up as it may seem It made me look at "meth heads"/drug addicts in a more sympathizing light while also being completely shocked by them. I think I recommend it.

I also watched The Great Alone (streaming on Netflix) about Lance Mackey who competes in the Iditarod races in a kind. It's a mix of like will to win stuff and proving to your dad you're worth something. Pretty good overall. Dogs are the best but I wish they focused more on his relationships with the dogs. It seemed kind of disjointed. Liked it tho.

You post in the rap thread a whole bunch, other than the Tribe Called Quest one, are there any great hip hop docs?

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Have any of you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOTtvY_B6Do

How is it?

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