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I'm just bitter because the stupid Aston dealership left my car out under a tree a month after I bought it and had it coated and it came back covered in swirls AND tree sap. And now those swirls will never come out unless I strip the coating and have it redone, along with paint correction. If I go through the trouble, I'm just going to have ppf put on.
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# ? May 19, 2020 17:29 |
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I still like the Klasse All-in-One stuff and a Porter Cable buffer thingie to do the work. Then Sonus Glanz after a wash. I also did the Opticoat stuff myself in the past and it wasn't that difficult.
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# ? May 19, 2020 17:31 |
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If your car already has some amount of imperfections and small rock chips, will PPF do anything? Is PPF mainly avoiding things like debris residue screwing up clear coat and rock chips? I just don't see a reason or benefit to put it on if I'm not cursed enough to care about small imperfections. I mean, I used to care but stopped as I became more jaded about life.
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# ? May 19, 2020 17:34 |
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Inner Light posted:If your car already has some amount of imperfections and small rock chips, will PPF do anything? Is PPF mainly avoiding things like debris residue screwing up clear coat and rock chips? I had paint correction and ceramic coating done on my M3 but skipped PPF. It already had 31k miles on it and the chips and whatever associated with that. If I'd bought it new I probably would have sprung for PPF as well but I don't know.
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# ? May 19, 2020 17:38 |
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If you already have road rash, then no, it wouldn't make sense to get PPF unless you have some of the panels repainted.
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# ? May 19, 2020 18:24 |
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I considered PPF for my new daily, but couldn't justify paying an additional 10% of the cost on it. It's not like it's a special car neither so I'd rather accept the odd stone chip and save the money.
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# ? May 19, 2020 18:25 |
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Road debris has just gotten out of control around here in the past few years so I decided to spring for it this time around. My BRZ only has like 19k miles on it and there are several dime sized chunks of paint missing off the hood at this point. I didn't really feel like going through that again.
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# ? May 19, 2020 18:27 |
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My wife's black MDX had PPF when new and it was completely perfect for over 5 years when we traded it in. I wouldn't have done it on a used car though because it was basically chip protection. We had our 996TT wrapped and ceramic coated and holy moly that makes a ton of difference in cleaning. Basically hose it off, rinse with a gallon of distilled/RO water and you're done in 5 minutes. It works extra well with wrapping because then you have much less of a chance of messing with the wrap, especially edges, during cleaning.
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# ? May 19, 2020 19:27 |
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PPF isn't very hydrophobic tho so you still have to wax it or put a ceramic coating on top of it as well if you don't want poo poo sticking to it.Jymmybob posted:We had our 996TT wrapped and ceramic coated and holy moly that makes a ton of difference in cleaning. Basically hose it off, rinse with a gallon of distilled/RO water and you're done in 5 minutes. It works extra well with wrapping because then you have much less of a chance of messing with the wrap, especially edges, during cleaning. Whats the purpose of rinsing with distilled/RO water?
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:30 |
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Don't have to dry it? RO/distilled should dry without leaving any water spots
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:48 |
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/05/19/porsche-911-bigger-engines-in-2026/quote:Porsche explains why the 911 will receive much bigger engines in 2026
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# ? May 20, 2020 01:36 |
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flat 8 u cowards
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# ? May 20, 2020 02:38 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:flat 16 u cowards
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# ? May 20, 2020 03:55 |
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Can the new Porch engines switch to run on atkinson cycle yet
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# ? May 20, 2020 04:17 |
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Straight 16 you cowards.
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# ? May 20, 2020 04:58 |
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Straight 16 mounted on its side and marketed as a flat 16 to see who dies of apoplexy.
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# ? May 20, 2020 04:59 |
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Neo_Crimson posted:flat 16 u cowards Porsche already did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8E4WCC4F8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-sixteen_engine#Porsche_917
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# ? May 20, 2020 05:02 |
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Put a deposit in on a 2021 G80. I've had my '15 Genesis since new and it's been a really good car but it was the last Hyundai branded year so it really didn't have an ownership experience that was anything other than ordinary Hyundai level. Curious to see if the brand experience is worth the upgrade.
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# ? May 21, 2020 06:14 |
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TKIY posted:Put a deposit in on a 2021 G80. I've had my '15 Genesis since new and it's been a really good car but it was the last Hyundai branded year so it really didn't have an ownership experience that was anything other than ordinary Hyundai level. Good move. Really interested in the 2021, but it's just a few inches too big for my parking spot.
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# ? May 21, 2020 06:58 |
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TKIY posted:Put a deposit in on a 2021 G80. I've had my '15 Genesis since new and it's been a really good car but it was the last Hyundai branded year so it really didn't have an ownership experience that was anything other than ordinary Hyundai level. Isn't it pretty well known that if you own a Genesis that the dealership experience is literally no different than if you owned a Hyundai Accent?
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Isn't it pretty well known that if you own a Genesis that the dealership experience is literally no different than if you owned a Hyundai Accent? not true anymore now that it's a stand alone brand rather than a single model. in some places the stores are separate and long term goal is to have separate stores. HMA is trying to differentiate as much as possible even with store-within-a-store. it's a long road but the ownership experience is at least somewhat differentiated and will get more differentiated over time.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:not true anymore now that it's a stand alone brand rather than a single model. in some places the stores are separate and long term goal is to have separate stores. HMA is trying to differentiate as much as possible even with store-within-a-store. it's a long road but the ownership experience is at least somewhat differentiated and will get more differentiated over time. Bingo. My current Genesis was the last 'Hyundai' year for the sedan, and yeah it's a standard Hyundai service experience. Canada is getting the Genesis-at-home model though, theoretically I never go to the dealership. Oil changes and regular services are pre-booked, they bring me a car, take my car in, return it when they are done and pick up the loaner. Honestly my car has had one nagging problem (which turned out to be due to having the rear rebadged) and outside that it's been really good. At this point it's just a refundable deposit though, no idea on pricing even. If the 3.5T goes much over $60K Canadian, I'd be hard pressed to go through with the deal.
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# ? May 21, 2020 15:22 |
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Inner Light posted:If your car already has some amount of imperfections and small rock chips, will PPF do anything? Is PPF mainly avoiding things like debris residue screwing up clear coat and rock chips? I put PPF and ceramic coating on my recent car purchase, mostly because it is my first big boy new car and it's my daily driver around central Florida with a bunch of trucks. I've had it about 6 months and the pros are that even when it's covered in road dirt, the car still looks cleaner than anything else on the road. The ceramic beads water beautifully, which I like. One thing with the PPF is that if you have factory paint defects that can't be removed, then the film may accentuate them. I have a few clustered around my A-pillars that are annoying but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who can see them. I have also noticed the film lifting a small amount, especially around the hood intakes, but any place you go should fix that under warranty. Never had an easier time washing a car and I love not having to wax it.
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# ? May 21, 2020 15:26 |
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I keep interpreting PPF as Power Plant Frame. Most paint protection film I see yellows to hell and gets moldy in Houston.
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# ? May 21, 2020 16:26 |
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Is the Mazda 3 really that great? I had the 2014 GT model with the 2.5 and while I agree it was a little more buttoned down in feeling it didn't hold a candle to even the cheapest of VW products. The sheet metal felt thin and the lack of a turbo deprived it of the low end torque that really gives some satisfaction in most real world driving scenarios. I would argue a VW Jetta or GLI would be a better buy depending on your budget than a Mazda at this point. Or if you like the hatch, the Golf/GTI. Having said that I have not driven the latest generation Mazda 3 which I'll agree is a real looker inside and out. Last I heard it lost its independent rear suspension which to me is concerning... Anyway if I'm using the 2014 model as an indicator I can't say I'm all that impressed with the car. You're better off in a Civic or anything else that has a turbocharger in it. The only Mazda I'd consider at this point is that Turbo Inline 6 Mazda 6 that may never appear. I'd seriously consider trading my GS 350 in for that. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 17:18 on May 21, 2020 |
# ? May 21, 2020 17:16 |
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the jetta is poo poo mate
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# ? May 21, 2020 17:24 |
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2014 was 6 years ago. The Jetta still had the 2.slow in 2014.
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# ? May 21, 2020 17:49 |
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I trust someone with the username "Kraftwerk" to have an objective view of German cars
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# ? May 21, 2020 17:52 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Is the Mazda 3 really that great? I had the 2014 GT model with the 2.5 and while I agree it was a little more buttoned down in feeling it didn't hold a candle to even the cheapest of VW products. The sheet metal felt thin and the lack of a turbo deprived it of the low end torque that really gives some satisfaction in most real world driving scenarios. The current Mazda 3 is excellent. Compare based on current products. Regardless, everyone has their own tastes. You don't have to like the Mazda 3. It's OK to prefer something else.
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# ? May 21, 2020 17:52 |
smh at Mazda not even using superior German adhesives
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:02 |
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i find kraftwerk's takes on cars truly baffling
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:06 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Is the Mazda 3 really that great? I had the 2014 GT model with the 2.5 and while I agree it was a little more buttoned down in feeling it didn't hold a candle to even the cheapest of VW products. The sheet metal felt thin and the lack of a turbo deprived it of the low end torque that really gives some satisfaction in most real world driving scenarios. You are completely and utterly wrong and yes the Mazda 3 is really loving good. The interior is Audi-level.
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:07 |
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drgitlin posted:You are completely and utterly wrong and yes the Mazda 3 is really loving good. The interior is Audi-level. I cross shopped the new at that time Mazda 3 with the 2.5 against the Golf TDI I ended up buying back in 2013. The interior of the Mazda had gotten absolutely rave reviews, and while it looked super nice it didn't live up to it in feel. Everything felt cheap. The center console was the most noticeable thing for me in this regard as it felt like something you'd put in aftermarket in the early 2000's on something that didn't come with one. The interior of the Golf didn't look as good but honestly felt way better to me. That might have improved with the current one but I completely agree with him on the previous gen.
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:31 |
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golf has consistently had a nicer interior than jetta
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:37 |
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The US Jetta has gotten thoroughly cheapened compared to previous generations. It’s no longer a premium feeling economy car. The Golf still is.
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:41 |
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Guinness posted:The US Jetta has gotten thoroughly cheapened compared to previous generations. It’s no longer a premium feeling economy car. The Golf still is. Yep. The last (US) Jetta and Golf to share an interior was the Mk V/A5, which went out of production in 2011. The A6 Jetta was dire.
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:50 |
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in true AI fashion I will now cross shop every new vehicle with a 10 year old competitor
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# ? May 21, 2020 18:51 |
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fknlo posted:I cross shopped the new at that time Mazda 3 with the 2.5 against the Golf TDI I ended up buying back in 2013. The interior of the Mazda had gotten absolutely rave reviews, and while it looked super nice it didn't live up to it in feel. Everything felt cheap. The center console was the most noticeable thing for me in this regard as it felt like something you'd put in aftermarket in the early 2000's on something that didn't come with one. The interior of the Golf didn't look as good but honestly felt way better to me. That might have improved with the current one but I completely agree with him on the previous gen. Is this the “talk about a seven year old car thread”? Or can people in here maybe accept that if 2013 was the last time they looked at a Mazda, maybe they don’t have up to date information and maybe they should believe someone who does.
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# ? May 21, 2020 19:07 |
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drgitlin posted:Is this the “talk about a seven year old car thread”? Or can people in here maybe accept that if 2013 was the last time they looked at a Mazda, maybe they don’t have up to date information and maybe they should believe someone who does. That guy was specifically talking about that older car and asking if the new one had actually improved over it.
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 01:53 |
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Look either goons do or do not buy new cars, which is it?!
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