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Finger Prince posted:Jesus, the renegade is that bad? I'll bet money on it being a 500L as I'm pretty sure the 500X doesn't have that engine anywhere, even in UK/EU, plus that engine isn't available in anything in the States, including the dual-clutch automatic that was probably attached to it. The Fiat 500X really is much better than the 500L and better than the Renegade. And yes, I have driven all three for extended drives. You can do a lot worse than the Fiat 500X and I'd let her purchase one, no problem. EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Nissan has sold 250,000 Rogues this year despite the fact that every reviewer has found them to be complete trash. People like cars for all sorts of dumb reasons.
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Deteriorata posted:Nissan has sold 250,000 Rogues this year despite the fact that every reviewer has found them to be complete trash. People like cars for all sorts of dumb reasons. Star Wars advertising? Did that work for Dodge when Force Awakens came out?
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Deteriorata posted:Nissan has sold 250,000 Rogues this year despite the fact that every reviewer has found them to be complete trash. People like cars for all sorts of dumb reasons. Because they sell them cheap. It's pretty much Nissan's MO for their mainstream models.
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EnergizerFellow posted:I'll bet money on it being a 500L as I'm pretty sure the 500X doesn't have that engine anywhere, even in UK/EU, plus that engine isn't available in anything in the States, including the dual-clutch automatic that was probably attached to it. The Fiat 500X really is much better than the 500L and better than the Renegade. And yes, I have driven all three for extended drives. Fun fact: the 500L is made in the old Zastava plant that produced the Yugo. I hear it's bad and also fat looking. dreesemonkey posted:What are some nice/premium small cars? My sister is looking at leasing a Fiat 500x (the fugly 4 door model) in a few months and I've got to think there is something way better. I told her a Fit or a CX-5 if she was considering a small SUV but she seems unenthused by the prospects. Mini was an additional option she was considering, but I guess the nearest dealer is 1.5 hours away. I feel like the CX-3 is a more direct comparison to the 500x than the CX-5. Also on the list would be Toyota's CH-R and Honda's HRV as well as the Juke. Oh and the Kia Niro or Soul. Comedy option: the Buick Encore. Hyundai is coming out with the Kona soon, and I assume Kia will have something too.
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Apparently Ford is going to make something called the Ecosport? Is this a real US model?
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They've been selling it overseas for years.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Apparently Ford is going to make something called the Ecosport? Is this a real US model?
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Yes but is it going to be sold in the US or not?
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Yes but is it going to be sold in the US or not? Yes. It will also be the first Indian made vehicle to be sold in North America. MAGA.
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Deteriorata posted:Nissan has sold 250,000 Rogues this year despite the fact that every reviewer has found them to be complete trash. People like cars for all sorts of dumb reasons. My wife has one. She loves it; I don't. (She bought it before we met)
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The are relatively decent looking cheap CUVs What is the mystery .
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Nissan is the new Mitsubishi as far as financing anyone with a pulse.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:My 20 minutes inside of the renegade was enough. Terribly uncomfortable. drat I barely made it 20 seconds. Seriously.
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Must have been a pea in there somewhere if all you princesses were so bothered
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes. It will also be the first Indian made vehicle to be sold in North America. MAGA. You can already get a KTM 390 or a BMW G310R (and maybe some others?). Both of which seem basic, but decent enough. The Ecosport looks weird, though.
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dreesemonkey posted:What are some nice/premium small cars? My sister is looking at leasing a Fiat 500x (the fugly 4 door model) in a few months and I've got to think there is something way better. I told her a Fit or a CX-5 if she was considering a small SUV but she seems unenthused by the prospects. Mini was an additional option she was considering, but I guess the nearest dealer is 1.5 hours away. The Fit is sooooo gooooooooood for a small car in its price range. Perfectly optioned for such an inexpensive car, and extremely well thought-out.
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Previa_fun posted:Nissan is the new Mitsubishi as far as financing anyone with a pulse. Yes but what about the new Mitsubishi Eclipse??
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tetrapyloctomy posted:The Fit is sooooo gooooooooood for a small car in its price range. Perfectly optioned for such an inexpensive car, and extremely well thought-out. But would you call it "premium"?
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:But would you call it "premium"? Maybe not premium but certainly nice and a whole lot less poo poo than a loving Fiat.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:My 20 minutes inside of the renegade was enough. Terribly uncomfortable. Both the Cherokee and renegade made my knees hurt. I couldn't find a seat position where it wouldn't happen.
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Olivil posted:since when is a Fiat premium anyway? ~European~
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I'm taking delivery on a Renegade this afternoon as an aside. Retiring my XJ to beater duty. Found a leftover on a small town lot for the right price. I didn't even test drive an auto but the 1.4t with the six speed is great
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Finger Prince posted:~European~
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My dealership got a Korean spec Stinger GT to show off and take pre-orders on a few days ago. The car is legit, The interior is well laid out and the driving position is very good. The adjustable side bolsters are a huge help.  Lots of room in the trunk with the seats down.  If anyone wants any pictures of a particular part of the vehicle just let me know. Also got some unofficial pricing info. 2.0T RWD should start at $32,XXX, V6TT RWD should start at $37,XXX and absolute top end V6TT AWD should be about $51,XXX. Not sure if those include destination (~$995) According to Kia the 2.0T should to 0-60 in 5.9s and the 3.3TT should do it in 4.7 with a top speed of 167mph I'm definitely getting one in about a year once I've had my Miata a bit longer. kill me now fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:But would you call it "premium"? Compared to other cars in the class, probably. You get a ton of features and functionality for the price. kill me now posted:My dealership got a Korean spec Stinger GT to show off and take pre-orders on a few days ago.
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I'm not familiar with those at all. Are they competing with the likes of the Genesis?
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slidebite posted:I'm not familiar with those at all. Are they competing with the likes of the Genesis?
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slidebite posted:I'm not familiar with those at all. Are they competing with the likes of the Genesis? They are competing with reasonably priced RWD sports sedans with 350+hp. Which means basically no one at this point. Kia pegs it as cheaper competition to the A5 sportback/440 grand coupe or a more capable Q50. But I think it will be more likely to take Charger R/T customers and people who really wanted something fun and RWD or AWD but got stuck in a FWD or FWD based AWD mid-sized sedan. Like people who would go for a Fusion Sport or MKZ. The G70 is probably going to be a bit higher end on the interior side of things as well as offer a better service experience at a higher vehicle price. I don't know if its going to be any sportier
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kill me now posted:My dealership got a Korean spec Stinger GT to show off and take pre-orders on a few days ago. Looking good.
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Too bad I live on Ice Mountain and would die in RWD.
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euphronius posted:Too bad I live on Ice Mountain and would die in RWD. AWD is available       Performance display modes - G-force, Lap time, oil temp/boost/"torque" https://www.instagram.com/p/BZT1XL_hxCj/?taken-by=xevilpetex kill me now fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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euphronius posted:Too bad I live on Ice Mountain and would die in RWD. Winter tires. AWD doesn't help you stop and only slightly helps you turn. Bear in mind I drive an AWD car with winter tires, so my opinion is based on anecdotal evidence.
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Re: the Renegade: Being 6'4", I couldn't find a driving position that let me safely operate the car, let alone have any comfort. This was in a rental lot, and when the guy saw me trying to adjust so that my legs didn't bind the steering wheel when trying to get near the pedals, I just got a different car. I'm sure there are people who can drive them fine.
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Man that Stinger is looking pretty nice. And so is the upcoming G70. I'm glad the Koreans have really stepped up their game. Sportbacks own.
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I really want the Stinger to be good but eventually I realized the V6TT is priced pretty close to a Mustang GT Premium and I don't really need back seats sooo..... It's all academic though since I'm not even in the market right now anyway. 
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Yeah doesn't seem like you save much over an Audi A4. The warranty's gonna be longer but the Audi looks sexier and probably feels more solid. Plus performance-biased Quattro is a strong part of the brand. I don't know what Kia's AWD solution is like. I also like Audi's interior design more; looks more sleek and up-market, this Kia feels more generic.
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I think the best cars on the market right now are probably the Audi S4,S5 Sportback cars... I've driven them and so far enjoyed them more than all the others. I want the stinger to be good so that there's more alternatives and competition for this segment.
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