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redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

A5H posted:

:colbert:



I think some of them will end up looking pretty cool. Sorta like that toaster car you guys in the US have.

This car would look one million times better if they'd gotten rid of those 'eyebrow' doodads and put the headlights/turn signals into that little recessed area under the err...'brow' like the new Camaro does. I tried changing it in photoshop but I just made a mess.

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redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I love reading about cars and car technology but I also can't wait to finish school and move into the city so I never have to worry about buying/paying for/maintaining one again. Plus there's break-ins, vandalism, finding parking, lovely drivers, etc.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Cream_Filling posted:



I read this post when there was only this picture, and from the bottom of the page. Sat here for a good minute or so trying to figure out what the hell it is, and I'm usually alright at identifying (modern) cars. It really does look like $SMALL_JAPANESE_SEDAN. I guess that's what Subaru wants.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Apr 14, 2011

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Taaaaaaarb! posted:

"artist's" impressions

They're all horrendously ugly, the visual equivalent of a garbage truck crashing into a sewage processing plant.

The way a Subaru should be.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

DogDodger posted:

It also helps build up carbon on the back of your intake valves. :(



Which engine is this? I've heard mixed signals regarding DI so far, Ford's Ecoboost seems to have no problem (unless that whole torture test thing was rigged) and the Germans have been using it for almost a whole decade now but pictures like that one keep popping up. I hope Hyundai has it figured out, their new Accent seems like a fairly competent small car (so far).

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Throatwarbler posted:

http://www.autoobserver.com/2011/06/direct-injection-fouls-some-early-adopters.html

It's definitely not because Audis are just unreliable.

Thanks, that article explains it nicely. I guess it's probably best to wait a generation or two for the bugs to be hammered out, like any new-ish technology.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Gotta buy a full size 7,000lb 7-passenger SUV to keep my babies safe, and since it's so big I don't have to watch where I'm going anymore! Certainly not when I'm backing out of my driveway.

Also,

The NY God drat Times posted:

SUV's

Seriously?

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Mar 2, 2012

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I like A and B-segment cars for their maneuverability more than their footprint in a parking space. Being able to easily see your corners and effortlessly slot the car into a space that might require a few more maneuvers in a C/D-segment is a big plus. I can't see myself buying (any new car, I am a poor) a Spark/500/iQ since the Sonic/Mazda 2/Yaris are much more versatile without sacrificing too much maneuverability or mileage.

I could see it becoming a decent fleet car, depending on how much it actually costs GM to produce them.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Powershift posted:

Just a side note. I smile every tine I drive by the local mitsu dealer because they are basically a scummy used car dealer that happens to have 20 new mitsubishis on the lot. Their featured vehicle for the last month ha been an 08 King Ranch f-150 with 95k kms on it and they want $33, 995 for it. I paid less than $15k for an 06 with 128k kms and more options

E:dammit, missed the edit button

This must be a common thing because there's a few of these in my area too. The "Mitsubishi dealer" with a few token Lancers and Outlanders, then a sea of awful cars all with around 90k miles going for $8-9k in their offshoot "King of Credit" lot. I guess it'll be an easy transition when Mitsu finally pulls out of the US, their dealers will just devote more time to ripping used car buyers off.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007


Hennessey takes a PT Cruiser, gives it 500hp or whatever, adds remote controls and crashes it into a brick wall at 150 mph, crushing it. A good tuning company.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

davebo posted:

Am I correct that the Mercedes CLA that was advertised during the superbowl for $30k is FWD with 121hp? I assume it must get really good mileage but I can't imagine it's much fun to merge onto a highway in. Is this the least expensive Mercedes to date and does that cheaper the brand's image or it it close enough to their next closest offering that it's not a big deal?

I think they all have the 200hp turbo 4, but don't despair, you can still get 115hp in the base Jetta!

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

DropShadow posted:

Except for $4-6k labor costs when your timing chain guides wear and require the engine to be pulled.



Ia! Ia! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Winterkorn Ingolstadt wgah'nagl fhtagn!

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I guess that's just the state of modern high-end cars, engineer them so they're absolutely brilliant in every way. Until the lease/warranty runs out, then any procedure more complicated than an oil change means it's off to the auction lot or scrap heap.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Cream_Filling posted:

Except nobody wants to buy a stripper POS with no AC or radio. The majority of people want options. If you want to streamline manufacturing, which is where the real cost savings are nowadays (not materials), then you standardize to models with all the popular options coming by default, because those are the volume sellers.

Plus bargain basement new cars are always going to compete with lightly used, but higher featured cars. I also love how well Toyota knows their buyers:



E: Hah, I was on their site to compare a base Yaris with a new-ish SE, and of course Toyota depreciation levels prove me wrong. Nearly $14k for a 4 year old subcompact with 60k that isn't even top trim? Nah, no thanks.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Apr 27, 2013

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Man I wish they sold the Up GT in the US. That'd be the perfect amount of car for me, and for some reason I love the sound of a 3-cyl. engine. This might have something to do with that Formula Ford thing from the Youtube thread. Oh well, Mazda2 prices are falling into a good spot, if only I could actually find a manual in the Touring trim with that hilarious green paint.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

PeterWeller posted:

If you're a fan of 3 cylinders, why not check out the Fiesta with the turbo 3?

If I'm not mistaken the 1.0T will end up carrying a price premium over the base 1.6, plus it's got a whole lot of very impressive sounding tech that might end up failing.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Cockmaster posted:

Some photos of a covered-up Prius prototype have been going around the internet, and it seems the 2015 model year will be the start of the 4th generation:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2015-toyota-prius-spy-photos-news

There have been rumors of Toyota planning to offer an AWD version and use lithium-ion batteries, but not much else (besides continuing to improve the fuel economy, of course). I also remember seeing a video advertising some fancy collision avoidance tech, but I can't find it now.

If they make it look anything at all like the NS4 concept, I would be all over that. In 6 years, when used ones start appearing, of course. Knowing Toyota, it'll have the exact same shape as the current one but with that angular face you see on the newest Rav4 and Camry.


redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Powershift posted:

Just a reminder, the fusion energi looks like this


edit: the BMW i3 interior looks like this



Yeah but do you expect me to be seen in a Ford?! *pootles off in his $40k neo-Isetta*

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Vigo327 posted:

Maybe i'm missing something obvious..?

Stacks, smoke tune, HIDs, a lift kit and a healthy dose of financing. It'll sell.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

kill me now posted:

The epa requirement for the highway cycle of the test is an average speed above 50mph, it doesn't really represent what you'll get at 65mph. My dad has an SXL and he did manage 33mpg actual over a highway only trip but he does drive pretty slow.

The European test cycle is even kinder to small engines with forced induction. Basically if you drive like a grandma with no feet, you'll be fine! Oh, and no staying above 70mph for more than ten seconds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle

quote:

(Extra Urban Driving Cycle), introduced by ECE R101 in 1990, has been designed to represent more aggressive, high speed driving modes

quote:

the car slowly accelerates to 70 km/h in 41 s

If that's aggressive, I must Hulk out at every intersection and burn rubber to 40mph.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Oct 10, 2013

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Manual SS is probably the worst of the "we're gonna buy it I swear!" Enthusiast bullshit lines that would never come to pass so good for GM for not making the SS available in manual. Parts proliferation alone on a couple hundred cars a year absolutely destroys the business case.

Don't forget, it also has to be AWD because reasons.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Xguard86 posted:

IDK once your bentley has its window mounting fail for the 3rd time, or the air conditioner only blows hot air in your SL you might just say gently caress it and go get a loaded LS and call it a day.

I mean, you're just sitting in traffic with the loving thing anyway.

That all happens long after the lease period ends and you've already got the new one with heated and cooled LED voice activated touchscreen dildos or whatever it is insufferable twats talk about on the golf course.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

blk posted:

Most 30-year-old architects are unemployed or waiting tables - the lucky ones are making 40k/year using the degree they paid 120+ for. There is no real data here, it's all "oh yeah I run with these imaginary successful friends of mine, they buy my cars (or at least I want you to think so)."

Yeah this one gave me a good laugh. Did they hire some of GM's excess marketing staff by any chance?

quote:

The average WRX buyer is in his mid 30s. He makes near $100,000 a year. He usually has a graduate degree.

So the WRX is projected to have a lower sales volume than the Aventador? Neat.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Dec 18, 2013

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007


So they are killing of Lincoln after all. Look at that front end, I bet if you honk the horn you hear a slightly slurred voice asking to be 'told about the rabbits again.'

e: I think the Escalade took off while the Navigator floundered because the former had better exposure in music videos, I don't remember the exact story but it could have gone either way if I have it right.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 23, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

It'll do well in rental/zipcar fleets too, especially in cities. I'd pick one over a Smart any day. I just don't see the value argument for a $14k Mirage over a $14k used Fit, and Fits are the most expensive used option. The warranty is nice, but Hyundai/Kia offer the same thing in a better car.

e: Still better than a 4cyl Avenger/200 :v:

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Feb 18, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

U.S. cities are somewhat opposite of European ones in that dense housing near the CBD can be less desirable than the suburbs surrounding the city, so people live in low density areas and commute to cities. This isn't true in a few cases, NYC has absurd property values in some neighborhoods, Boston too. It's also a function of everyone driving 300hp 6,000lb 4WD cruise missiles at a minimum of 80mph, although the turbo triple should be able to keep up with that, sacrificing economy of course.

A lot of U.S. infrastructure (if you can call it that) was designed around personal cars and cheap fuel, and anyone with the power to actually change that has no interest in anything reaching beyond the next election cycle, not to mention starting expensive infrastructure projects are not great for poll numbers, unless your business buddies are getting a healthy contract with a vague budget limit. Probably doesn't help that the U.S. has a mass transit system in the same way Mitsubishi has an automotive division.

e: For example, where I live if I wanted to go out for lunch and stop at the bank, I'd be driving for roughly 20 minutes round trip, and half of that would be on a three lane highway at 70. In the slow lane, being passed. The rest would be sitting at lights or fighting traffic pulling out of a parking lot. And people wonder why I don't go anywhere on my days off :v:

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 24, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I wouldn't worry about large SUVs and pickups in a small car if I had the slightest faith in the people driving them. If I drove a small hatchback I'd have that fucker lit up like a Paddy Hopkirk themed Christmas parade float. Do European countries have a more courteous driving style? Here if you want to change lanes it's as likely as not the guy behind you will speed up and block you to assert his dominance or whatever.

e: vvv In the US you're expected to risk your life getting into work without a second thought (for most jobs anyway), extra displacement isn't going to matter there and small cars are perfectly safe. You're still dealing with people on half-bald all seasons with suspension in various states of disintegration who also have to get to work RIGHT NOW.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 24, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007


Neat concept, this would work well for city buses too, all that stopping and starting really fits the drivetrain. Lower emissions/noise would be a huge plus too, and hey no DPF!

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Powershift posted:

Edit: hopefully it either comes with a stick, or they figure out how to stop the 9-speed from grenading itself every 5000 miles.

The 9-speed is made by ZF though, I thought their transmissions were fairly reliable. Manual would be best though, especially with low range for the three people who actually take it offroad.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Seat Safety Switch posted:

...a burnout until the tires explode)

The all new Camaro. Look for it on the next season of Operation Repo!

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 5, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

At this point Chrysler could just hire Eminem to take a big steamy dump in the middle of a Detroit street and it would still be the best commercial of the three.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

bull3964 posted:

Tesla S is getting free body armor.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/shields-up-tesla-model-s-gains-free-titanium-and-aluminum-armor-upgrade/

Those demonstration gifs are amazing. I particularly like Tesla vs. Alternator.

I'm not convinced until they show an encounter with a sewing machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwinnODU0yo

e: That isn't nearly as funny as it was in 1995... :geno:

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Mar 30, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I think my favorite thing about a new car reveal is the flood of comments 'it looks like an X and a Y had a baby' 'looks like a Q got shrunk in the wash/inflated a bit too much' 'they completely ripped off W.' Guess what, mass market cars look very similar because creativity is either not aerodynamic or marketable enough.

New Cruze which definitely looks like a C-segment world car.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Yeah, gently caress those Frenchies with their sane work-life balance. I work my rear end off and have this...Cadillac? Really, that's it? gently caress.

Dude. Motorized cup holders. If that isn't worth early heart disease, ulcers, back problems and alienation of your family I don't know what is.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I like my crank operated sunroof. Never leaked, nothing to break and doesn't take away much from headroom. It's fun to open it halfway once a year and be deafened by wind noise while losing a few extra MPG on the highway.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Yeah man but when they come down in price...

I'd buy one new but I really wanted AWD, and have you seen that interior? It's ghastly.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Coredump posted:

Which car you talking about? The Mustang or the SS?

I'm just taking the piss out of the Jalopnik-style commentariat who demand this exact car every year, but when it's actually made they don't buy it because $30-40k is hard to swing on a blogger's salary. Then they mumble something about bins full of parts and hard plastic. Although to be fair I've seen more than a few becoming self-aware and poking fun at the fabled 'dieselmanualbrownAWDwagonforunder20k' crowd.

If you really want to rile em up tell them the largest automakers already offer V8 RWD/AWD four door vehicles for relatively cheap, tell them to buy a truck :v:

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Apr 28, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I assume off-lease cars are good buys too, right? Mileage limits, only a few years old, regular service at the dealership, etc. It's a shame dealers don't include 'off-lease' in the summaries, or really any information at all.

vv: Yep, and a lot of the time there's a link to the carfax in Autotrader/dealer site listings, which is rather nice. The summaries are usually filled with copy/pasted buzzword salad and the specs get the color and transmission right roughly half the time. My favorite was a Honda Fit listing leading with "CAN YOU HANDLE THE POWER?!" I miss that shady vsvin site, all those hidden treasures like the 2009 Eclipse that had done 40k miles and somehow gotten in six accidents.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 13, 2014

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Powershift posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EITiqurE8dc
It costs the equivalent of $72,000 in the UK. That would be a tough sell in north america.

Drop that powertrain into whatever SUV shares the platform and it'll sell like crazy.

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redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

KakerMix posted:

"Disruption" is always great. Embarrassing super cars that cost well north of a fat domestic pig wonderful, upheaving advertising and numbers and all that is great no matter when it happens, because now Lamborghini and Ferrari have to acknowledge that a 60k Dodge can embarrass them.

Problem is, China/professional athletes/investment bankers/trophy wives care a lot less about lap times/sev'n hunnerd hosspower than the all important brand image, and they're the ones buying supercars. That's why we're seeing Bentley and Lamborghini SUVs, even if they are just Touaregs given a fancy suit and a box of viagra. I think disruption is awesome but I'm not the target market for either a Lambo or a Hellcat Dodge.

e: What Powershift said

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Sep 10, 2014

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