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Q_res posted:I don't have a V1, but I do have a Whistler Radar/Lidar detector, and I can't recommend one enough. That thing has seriously saved me at least $1,000. It's been awhile since I kept up but isn't a LIDAR detection pointless since if the lasers detected the cop already knows how fast you're going? ie it's to late, also I thought jammers were supposed to be bullshit? My Escort was great when I was driving across the country but I never bothered putting it into my current ride because the local cops started used LIDAR and while my Escort detected it just fine it didn't stop them from clocking me all the same.
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The most depressing thing about the new Civic is the fact that it's relatively outclassed compared to everything else in its class and that still hasn't seemed to impact the sales one bit, it's still a huge hit. Toyota or Honda could release giant turds for cars and the intertia of public perception would still have them selling like crazy.That's not to say that I think they're current lineups are turds, just not especially good compared to cars that don't sell nearly as much from other manufacturers.
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DerDestroyer posted:
I tend to agree that it doesn't seem very appealing vs spending a few thousand more for an actual C-class unless it's coming well equipped standard without options, but being a German luxury brand I don't have much hope for that. Least it doesn't appear to be resemble a melted bean as much as some of the earlier photos made it appear. The CLA45AMG that's supposed to be coming could be pretty great if it comes in around $45k, I'd still rather of seen the A45AMG though.
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asmallrabbit posted:Am I the only one that finds it annoying that the speedometer is small and off to the side while the rpms are right in the center? Like previous Corvettes there is a heads-up display, theoretically they could do away with the analog speedometer entirely.
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Also for those of us in the north where the winter is longer than the summer there's a definite appeal to having our "fun" car being usable in the snow, not to mention the practicality of having a sedan vs small coupe. You can still drive a high power rear-wheel drive car in the winter of course with nice tires but you're lying to yourself if you think that Blizzaks on RWD = Blizzaks on an AWD in a snowy winter. When I lived in Texas it seemed like Audi's were a rarity compared to BMWs, in Alaska they're evenly split, in the 90s before every BMW or Mercedes came with X-Drive or 4matic the Audis were a lot more common.
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Sep 22, 2013 21:59
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I was under the impression the new Taurus would hit in 2015, so probably MY 2016. I'm sure Ford would've announced it at Detroit or Chicago already if it was coming out this year.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:41
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Presto posted:I'm confused. I only had to connect my phone once and now it just reconnects automatically when I start the car. Also, I only have one small Microsoft logo tucked up behind the gearshift lever. Course, this is Sync before MFT so maybe it's worse now? As a counterpoint to all this I have a later in the model year 2013 SHO and I've never had any problems with MFT. No crashes, always remembers both my wifes and my phone, and everything I regularly try to access is one screen from the top menu or I just use the steering wheel d-pads for anyways. Also you can get rid of a lot of the annoying voice prompts and speed up the system by going to the advanced voice mode. I've gotten the impression that the worst MFT issues seemed to crop up on the 2012 and early 2013 Fords.
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Feb 27, 2014 22:50
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skipdogg posted:I can see that. Our 2014 Explorer Sport is problem free so far. We've only had it 5 months or so. Really makes me think they improved the hardware somehow. Can't complain, there're some performance aspects I wish were better(slow shifts, weight) but overall it's a great compromise between an everyday commuter, family(or stuff) hauler, and sports car that I feel comfortable driving all year round through any weather. It's also a lot more luxurious than most expect, have a couple friends with stripper off lease-special BMWs who were surprised what you can get in a fully loaded new car nowadays, luxury marquee or not. As a not particularly tall or fat person the complaints about it being cramped inside in relation to its outer dimensions don't bother me. All that said I might've ended up with an SRT8 if snowy driving wasn't a concern.
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Feb 28, 2014 03:19
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Speaking as someone who's only experienced MFT after a year and a half of updates(late '13 car) I can say I've never had a problem with it, I don't see how it could be any simpler to perform basic functions, and I think all the pictures of Sync V3 look hideous so far. Seriously, that's ugly and doesn't look like it would blend in well with any cars interior, something that I think MFT does very well, at least in my car.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:The biggest drawback of older "safe" cars regarding crash safety is that they perform rather poorly in offset crashes. Which, to be fair, a lot of newer cars also struggle with since it stresses the torsional rigidity of the car to such a great extent. Not sure if you're aware of this since you didn't mention it but your chosen examples illustrate your first point very well since the MKS is just a Ford Taurus and the current Taurus is based off an older Volvo platform at the moment. Old cars, even old Volvos, aren't nearly as safe as modern cars.
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Dec 21, 2014 18:57
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Car and Driver actually just put an instrumented test of a 5500lb platinum supercrew with the 3.5l V6 up and claim it made 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. Looks like it runs out of steam a after that since it only does the 1/4 in 14.4 at 95 but still, that's a loaded 4x4 that weighs a half ton more than the stripper regular cab.
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Dec 25, 2014 03:55
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Q_res posted:That's definitely not the case, as Ford is (finally) retiring that platform. The new Edge/MKX and Taurus/MKS are Fusion based. Then it's the Explorers turn at some point, I imagine, which just leaves the Flex. Which won't be getting a replacement at all. You know I keep hearing this everywhere, I may have even repeated the rumour here myself, but all the rumours from shortly after the Fusion came out said it was MY2016 they'd show up but 2 years later Ford still hasn't shown or officially announced anything in regards to the MKS or Taurus as far as I know. I leased my '13 SHO 2 years ago thinking that by the time it was up in 3 years the 2016 would've already been out for 6 months but here we are now only 5 months from when I'd typically expect to start seeing the MY2016 at dealers and nothing, was really hoping they'd be announced in Detroit. If they are on the way I'm really starting to think it'll be in 2017 the same as the new Raptor with the second generation Ecoboost 2.0s and 3.5s. Also I really like Ford's blue color options but a dark green just looks fantastic on a meaty car, I'd of gotten green over blue if it was an option. White = bleh
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Mar 30, 2015 23:22
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Even with the 3.5 EB there's definitely some lag but you're not going to notice unless you're hammering it from a stop and it's over with quick. The now behind the times 6 speed auto is a larger cause of delays once you're already going(a tune or staying in S alleviates a lot of this on the SHO).
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I know a lot of auto enthusiasts would disagree but if it was available in AWD it might've actually be a relative success, for a large sedan in a dying segment, there's a decent chance I'd have one right now instead of a SHO if it was. There's a niche for a high power large AWD sedan around that price point that's empty now aside from SHOs, specially with the Charger R/T no longer available in AWD, the other options are mostly German and much much more expensive.
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Uh... do most not? As maligned as Ford is they do, or you can just download it yourself to a USB stick.
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KillHour posted:All I'm seeing here is that a Ford Edge is basically a BMW 3 series in SUV form. Not really cheaper either in that form, though it does come with AC seats, something the germans seem oddly behind on outside of 6-figure models.
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Kraftwerk posted:What's the general feeling/verdict on the Ford Fusion Sport? Who knows? It's been like 2 months since the non-sport 2017 press reviews hit but there's still nothing out there about the Sport other than the engine output news and teases about adjustable suspension, Ford has been pretty tight lipped. I just talked to a salesman today and he said his orders are in the "order bucket" but they still have no build dates so he'd expect them to be at least 2 months out. Late summer availability is looking like a missed target.
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BloodBag posted:A group of people got paid to design, build, program and animate that useless navigation ball screen when a small window and 2 digit led in the rear view mirror could have sufficed. It's official. "Luxury" has jumped the shark. I'm sure the whole glass cockpit thing is a selling point too As mentioned yes that screen isn't permanently stuck on the navigation ball, there are several different menus to go through, don't know why you'd think otherwise. You can probably find a video online detailing them since Ford has put them in a bunch of vehicles since like 2012. I really was hoping they'd of updated the dash by now though, I have those screens in my SHO that I'm likely to replace with a Fusion Sport and I'm disappointed I'll be looking at the same dash basically unchanged for another 3 years. I do agree they should be bigger given the real estate left open above and below. Everyone really just needs to go full LCD as far as I'm concerned, Cadillac and Audi's full screen dashes look awesome. Really wish some press reviews of the Sports had come out by now just to put some actual numbers to the Sport, I'm really really surprised they haven't and the only reasons I can think of for that are incompetence or a fear they won't review well but given the poo poo cars that always get press reviews anyways that seems unlikely.
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I'll gently caress off if those screens can be configured, but after having a ford with two useless screens in it in the past(2012 focus w/o MFT), I'm not holding my breath. The amount of wasted real-estate in the sync system was appalling. A 5 inch screen for only two lines of text.
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angryhampster posted:Christ those are fun numbers for a sensible-ish family sedan. As someone with a current generation SHO it was really disappointing. I was expecting it to be at least 400 pounds lighter than the crazy heavy Taurus and with those engine specs crack a 5 second 0-60 but instead somehow it came out 200 pounds lighter with basically the same performance as a 7 year old SHO. C&Ds own test of the SHO as it was released in 2009 has virtually the same numbers. Unlike the 3.5 EcoBoost I think the iron block 2.7 may not really be a great fit for a performance oriented car, I think it's to blame for most of the weight. Wonder what the front/rear weight ratio is.
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Powershift posted:It's not just a cast iron block, it's 2 piece aluminum/Compacted graphite iron. As a package, it's 120lbs lighter than the 3.5 ecoboost. I don't know where all that weight came from then. Where did you get that weight from? I can't seem to find it online for the 2.7 since it's not available as crate engine from Ford yet. Looking at C&Ds own instrumented test results a same generation Fusion with the 2.0l and AWD gains 385 pounds going to the sport with the 2.7, a same generation Taurus with the 2.0l and no AWD only gains 344 pounds going to the SHO with the 3.5 + AWD.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Could Mazda ever create an RX-8 sports car successor with a range extender? I'm sorry I can't take anything he says seriously after this, sounds like a bad buzz-word salesman.
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You could also look at a Genesis, or a deeply discounted Cadillac CTS. Both are plenty big, especially the Genesis, and aren't going to be any faster than a Fusion Sport in a straight line but come with much nicer transmissions. Ford really needs to get the new 9-speed out to replace their old and not very sporty 6-speed.
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Pryor on Fire posted:It doesn't really help that every dealer seems to do their artificial scarcity bullshit song and dance with every halfway decent hatch/wagon because the market is so tiny. People were paying $10K over retail for Golf Rs like 3 years ago and you still had to wait on a list. You can blame VW for that, it wasn't always artificial for the first year or two, I wanted an R when my old lease expired and even put down money on an order but after 4 months still had no build date/allotment since a few people were ahead of me in the dealers queue.
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skipdogg posted:I can't get my Ford dealer to service the PTO/PTU unit for the AWD though, they won't even touch it. That's odd, I just had mine done and expected to need to explain what I was asking for and about how the PPs have drain plugs and all that. When I actually went in to schedule it as soon as I mentioned the PTU he was just like yep okay, and when I started to clarify exactly what I was asking about the service agent just said they've done them before and e they just vacuum all the old oil out anyways so there's no drilling a drain even on non-PPs. He actually seemed very familiar with the SHOs which surprised me cause I don't think there're that many around here, that dealership never even stocks them, I had to go the next town over to test drive and order one when I got mine. If you have another dealer nearby they might treat it like a perfectly normal thing.
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Didn't have any problems when I ordered my Ford, set up an appointment to test drive a like model in stock, went there, drove around for awhile, sat down and specced it out exactly as i wanted, put a refundable $1000 deposit down and left. Couple months later it was delivered and while their finance guy did push the extended warranties and service packages I wouldn't say they pushed very hard. It probably helped that I was special ordering a car and just paying straight X-plan but overall while I spent more time in the dealership than I'd like it wasn't that bad. Even that I think was legitimately just because they weren't necessarily all that efficient vs purposely wasting time. Tried to order a VW Golf R last year and had a somewhat similar experience, scheduled a test drive with a like model in stock(an S3), went and did it, specced out my car, put down a deposit and left. Of course they flat out said "MSRP only on Golf R's no exceptions" so there was nothing to argue over but frankly at the time that was about as good as it got for R's where I am. As it happened I never took delivery of that car because 6 months later they still didn't have a build date from VW, they just refunded my money no questions asked. Taking the negotiation out of the equation seems to lead to less scumminess, a world of build-to-order MSRP only car purchases could be a lot less stressful than the current model if they could get delivery times down. Also the Ford dealer had a popcorn machine and VW dealer had... brochures, and Audi's and Porsches to ogle.
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Don't forget the increased road maintenance from studded tires, here in Alaska it seems like any street that sees significant traffic over 35mph needs to be resurfaced every 2-5 years otherwise you end up with dangerously deep ruts due to them. You could try to disallow studs or discourage them through a tax as has been suggested up here but you then compound the burden of cost issue as studdless snow tires tend to be much more expensive when you take into account how quickly they wear. I can get 2 good years out of them in my experience then the 3rd they're not really any better than all-seasons and I've never gotten a full set for less than $800. Better to hope for rapid progress in self-driving cars though I have no idea if anyone's even tried tackling winter conditions with them yet.
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Dislike button posted:I imagine the range of that truck isn't enough for it to need anything more than a day cab Don't know about that, Joe Schmoe is allowed to drive his family car a 1000 miles in a single 12+ hour driving marathon but a professional trucker is not as far as I know. If the infrastructure to actually take advantage of the ability to do a 30min charge for 400 miles ever gets established at truck stops I don't think it's unreasonable to think the range of this truck is perfectly fine even for long hauls by a single driver. I see a lot of comments elsewhere about how the range of a diesel truck is over a 1000 miles but it doesn't actually sound like it matters one bit to me due to unrelated regulations. Elem7 fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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Surprised no one has mentioned the C&D Stinger GT instrumented test yet. It's uh, a lot faster than I had expected, but then C&D always seems to get crazy numbers out of cars, it's enough to make me wonder if it's a ringer. if this wasn't just a freak car it makes me think the Stinger GT's power figures are underrated in a similar manner as some German cars are often suspected of being. C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec Zero to 100 mph: 10.6 sec Zero to 140 mph: 22.4 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 111 mph Top speed (gov ltd, mfr's claim): 167 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 156 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g
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Kraftwerk posted:I want to take a quick poll: If I'm a hypothetical person with more to my name than I really have, S5 Sportback In the real world, KIA Stinger GT (As someone who in the last 5 years bought a similar car new(SHO) this is actually a real possibility too next year not empty talk) I think Lexus are way overrated and Jaguar ownership scares me, plus the interior in both is a bit to tight compared to the KIA.
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Kraftwerk posted:Yup. Hes since linked up with some millionaires and convinced all of them to let him manage their crypto assets and pay him to do it. He hangs it over my head tells me I’m poor because I don’t listen to him and invest in bitcoin. Still sounds like a piece of poo poo but he's right about that last part. After realizing 2 seperate co-workers(in IT) are now worth millions, one of which has cashed out and retired to the tune of about 9 million, I'm now regretting my previous blowing off of cryptocurrency. Even if I think the whole idea is stupid and an irresponsible waste of energy at a time we should be cutting back the fact that I could be worth 10s of millions if I hadn't brushed it off is getting to me. On a different note the local KIA dealership has finally gotten some Stingers in, all non-GTs and marked up 5 grand over MSRP. It's like they're trying to maintain a relationship for being a shady brand for people who don't know better on purpose.
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cool startup feel posted:They don't, because very few people who willingly purchase an android phone could afford a new car, much less a BMW. cool startup feel posted:Trolling is supposed to make the other person look stupid.
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Not sure they have a reason to, look at Subaru's performance on that list, terrible, and they've still been killing it for several years now nearly entirely on image.
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It honestly just reminds me of a squarish wagon from the 80s that's just had gigantic modern wheels fitted to it along with a small body lift, lazy and ugly but hey, it's a Rolls.
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But... its slower than the Fusion? It's even less an S4 competitor, GM really needs to do better than they are with that V-6, in a time when all its competitors have gone forced induction its gutless and slow by comparison. Both the Fusion and the GS can't even keep up with the regular A4 at this point let alone the S4.
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Wheeee posted:my coworker, an idiot, a loving imbecile: hey guys i just bought a new car for the first time in years, its so exciting come check it out!! This but unironically, maybe the new one is different but previous to that they've been phoning it in for the last decade. Bad car? No, a good choice given the modern competition? Also no, not really, unless resale is your only overriding concern.
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So none of this talk about trims really matters if you're specifically after the man step because its an option, even on a '19 platinum it's not standard. I'm not real familiar with Toro but if you can get VINs from it you can check that way whether a truck has them or not otherwise you'll need to actually ask the owner ahead of time, if that's even possible.
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I feel like Audi has been all about big grills for like... 14 years now.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:The next oil crisis can't come soon enough. People keep saying that whenever Ford's abandonment of cars comes up and I can't help but wonder if y'all are actually paying attention. Oil prices are low currently and with it looking like a global recession is coming/already here they aren't likely to go up to the stratospheric levels seen in 2008 or when the recovery really started to pick up steam(for rich people). Fracking killed $100 a barrel oil, at least for now, it's not like Ford isn't capable of checking oil prices and trends. Also the mileage difference between between modern CUVs and sedans isn't that great nowadays, I mean outside of car commercials how many people are really making a decision based off a couple MPG? fridge corn posted:Isn't golf r still running lovely haldex which is mostly fwd anyway? It is but it's not 2005 anymore where, it'll do a 50/50 split not the near useless 90/10 split seen in some older cars that just wanted an AWD badge. Elem7 fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Hahaha, just like last time they'll keep shoveling trucks as long as they can. Full steam ahead, never mind the icebergs! ...and that has what to do with abandoning sedans and oil prices? Would it be better if they had 303,565 Fusions available for sale? The entire industry is facing a global downturn, supplies across the board are likely to go up from here, doesn't have anything to do with Ford abandoning cars.
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bull3964 posted:The screen on that Audi looks to be about an inch bigger, and that's why it's up there rather than in the center stack. Looks like it just has a bigger bezel to me, actually, truth be told, I think it looks a little smaller than the VW. I am a little surprised the A3 doesn't look nicer but I think that may be a low spec one, other than the piano black trim in the VW I think it does look better, the instrument panel and door panel in particular, I don't even mind the pop-up touch screens but those giant nipple vents are a bit ridiculous on the Audi and the giant expanse of flat grey plastic around them isn't helping.
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