Sir Tonk posted:

Should I be blaming Maserati for every company wanting to put vents on their fenders these days? It's bad enough having the stick-on ones all over town without the manufacturers reinforcing the behavior.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Oh cool, they took the XJ and made it uglier.

rscott posted:

Does that thing have suicide doors in the rear?

sanchez posted:

Why would you get one over a Mustang? The interior is less offensive but that's about all I can think of.

Dr JonboyG posted:

What the gently caress is going on at Hethel? They've announced a line up of five new cars, none of which seems it have anything to do with the sorts of things you would expect from Lotus. The Elise replacement is 200 kg heavier than the current one! Totally appalling. If you live in the UK you can probably pick up an Evora for cheap now. Makes me want to find a good S1 Elise and store it for the future.

pictures here

Jaguar made up for it though with some new Supercar that does 25g/km CO2 or something.

Muffinpox posted:

Maybe it's just the picture, but I don't see much of a difference except for the stuff done for crash standards.

Faerunner posted:

Being honest with themselves might have something to do with it.

japtor posted:

2 door SUV vs...I'm not sure what the Juke and Countryman are, micro SUV/wagons or something.

Speaking of which, anyone post about the rally cars at Paris?
Countryman WRC:

wav3form posted:

So you hate the mustang but you'd buy one if you could afford it? Odd.

grover posted:

The new CEO of Porsche has put the brakes on the cajun and baby boxster, and may kill both.

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6719643/news/report-new-porsche-ceo-may-scrap-cajun-suv-baby-boxster/index.html

MonkeyNutZ posted:

You may have heard about Lotus' new 2010 F1 car, the T127 with a 2.4l Cosworth V8, but wanted something a little more tame
Worry no more thanks to the all new track-only Lotus T125 Exos (equipped with a 3.5l Cosworth V8 putting out 640bhp) that you can actually drive through the Lotus "Exos Experience." I would love to know how exclusive that club is because drat

Mr. Apollo posted:

Anyone eve wish for a convertible Nissan Murano?



2011 Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet

World Debut - Nov. 17th at the Los Angeles Auto Show

The world’s first all-wheel drive crossover convertible, delivers the open-air exhilaration of a convertible while extending the versatility of the Murano in exciting new ways. With room for four adults, space for golf bags or luggage (even with the top down), and a premium level interior, the Murano CrossCabriolet represents a breakthrough in concept and design. Set to go on sale in early 2011.

kimbo305 posted:

Why is AWD the magic bullet that makes handling awesome again?

DropShadow posted:

A4's don't have Haldex AWD; A3 quattros, TT's and R32's do.

squirrelBitten posted:

This is a supplement to the Accent. The next-gen Accent was announced in Montreal (not that any news sites picked up on it yet...). Here's the only shot of it I could find: http://yfrog.com/h2dc4rtj .

redscare posted:

No they're not

Cream_Filling posted:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203525404576050070062206368.html?mod=WSJ_article_related

Best quote, from a 2009 marketing meeting showing just how out of touch this guy is:


Missed 90s GM? Look forward to more marketing, less engineering, and lots of corner cutting!


So, new Corvette is semi-confirmed for 2014. Hopefully they don't decide to start cutting, say, the three different engines offered in the current C6 (LS7, LS3, LS9) - all of which I argue can be justified. Now, my reckoning of exactly what is meant by "engine types" may be inaccurate, but typically the fastest way for the beancounters to meet meaningless metrics such as "number of engine types" will be to cut "niche" performance products and engineering in favor of retarded high-concept marketing stunts like Ackerson's current proposal: to add social media capabilities to OnStar. What the hell?

Cream_Filling posted:

Dr JonboyG posted:

Embargoes are down for the new McLaren MP4-12C:

Evo: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/263737/new_mclaren_mp412c_review.html (includes Chris Harris video)

Car: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/McLaren-MP4-12C-supercar-CAR-review-2011/

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/McLaren-MP4-12C-watch-CARs-video-review-here/

Autocar: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/McLaren-MP4-12C-3.8-V8/255434/

Autocar video with Jenson Button: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/mclaren-mp4-12c-driven-jenson-button-video/

I do not understand how people say it's boring to look at and doesn't look special in the way a 458 does, but then I don't like Ferrari and I do like McLaren. Looks like the car has moved the game on from the 458, makes me wonder what they're going to do for their next car, which will be a replacement for the mighty F1. The really interesting one will be the final car, which is going to be aimed at the 911 and be a car you can drive every day (and possibly afford, too).

Throatwarbler posted:

Oh hey some meta car commercials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWy6A6bLSW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkUdQtINflw

oxbrain posted:

No it doesn't. It sounds like a sound engineer played around with a recording of a v8.

InitialDave posted:

If they're going to be so smug about the "real cars for real drivers" attitude they've got going on there, let's see the manual shifter in the thing.

awesome-express posted:

My euro-spec e39 doesn't have any cupholders and is a manual. Trying to drink some water while driving is a huge pain in the rear end.

Throatwarbler posted:

Reminder that the Ram 1500 comes with 3 link Panhard rod coil spring rear suspension. It's a Mustang with a bed.

OK back to the US/Canada chat. While thinking of a reply to 14 INCH I looked up the figures for truck sales and realized that on a per capital basis, Canadians buy about twice as many full size trucks as Americans. Ford F series sales in Canada were almost 100k in 2010 compared to ~550k for the US, even though the US has 10x as many people. Numbers for GM and Chrysler are about the same.

It's strange because I'm always under the impression that everything is bigger, cheaper and better in America, and that we in Canada have to deal with smaller, more expensive and crappier stuff as a necessary price of our social-democratic way of life. Since about 1 in 3 vehicles on the road here is a diesel 2500HD/F350 I assumed that in wealthy America, it would be....1 in 2? Or people just drove chassis cab/heavy duties? or surplus Warsaw Pact BTR-60s? I don't even know.

But it turns out that relatively more Americans just drive... cars. I don't even know what to think anymore.

Billy Zane posted:

I can't help but think of the Firebird's taillights.

Imperador do Brasil posted:

Cobalt SS weighs in at 2900lb, and with 260hp, for around $25k.

The Wonder Weapon posted:

I am desperately in love with the CRZ, but I'm not sure it's quite right for purchasing right now. Is there any reliable news that an updated model, like a cr-z si, might be released anytime soon? If not, is there a show anytime in the near future where Honda may make such an announcement?

Basically I want someone to tell me such a thing will exist in 3 months and it will be $19k new

Mutley posted:

There are some small saloons in the EU that seem to be well proportioned:





Is there something about USA crash regs (stronger side impact protection?) that results in the odd shapes for your compact saloons?


EDIT:

USA car pic for comparison since we've moved on a page

dissss posted:

What do you think of the Peugeot 407? I reckon its the most ungainly sedan on the market:

SouthLAnd posted:

This is an April fools joke from Honda. They're just poking fun at Nissan for making such a ridiculous product (Murano convertible).