frozenphil posted:

Is Chrysler trying to go under? I mean, shouldn't your new engine be competitive with the competition?

NOTinuyasha posted:

Alright I'll get dogpiled for saying this but I like the Juke, it's a cheap fake SUV with a turbocharged 1.6 that gets 24/31 and has an optional 6-speed at every trim level. It looks weird but that doesn't bother me at all, because if I see one more Rav4 or CRV I will have a breakdown, and if it's light blue I will kill myself right then and there. I'm afraid to go outside.

heat posted:

Speaking of the DB9 I saw a DB9 Volante last summer and followed the guy a few lights so I could give him the thumbs up. Can't be too many of those in the states (like, a few dozen at most?)

Getindachoppa! posted:

They're a lot less than 25k too. Mine cost 18,500 out the door. It had been sitting on the lot for awhile though.

Cream_Filling posted:

Dave Inc. posted:

On the topic of KIA, where do they stand in terms of build quality / reliability? They on par with Hyundai now or are they lagging a few years behind?

Edit: I just used Hyundai as an example of build quality and reliability.

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Actually... this is a good read, I was searching out other things but take a look

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/05/the-chinese-are-coming-part-one-a-tale-of-two-nobles/

The SUV looks like an X5. What is even better is the prospect of a small turbo diesel.

This is me thinking out loud, but with Ford, BMW and other manufactures moving towards turbo's. Have we reached the pinnacle of cramming as much power and efficiency of normally aspirated engines? It makes me giddy to see more power with out sacrificing gas millage.

edit: DOH! I can't do math. Yeah not excited about the prospect of a small diesel.

Jork Juggler posted:

Audi is not making the A4 smaller, they are making an A3 sedan. It is looks to be about the size of a late 90's A4, based on its concept:




Yeah, they might have a few too many cars in their lineup. At least they are less ugly than equivalent BMWs.

2ndclasscitizen posted:

First spy-shots of the 2012 C63 AMG Black coupe. Bit less weight, bit more power (around the ~520hp mark) and wider track.

thesurlyspringKAA posted:

Looks like Chevy pretty much confirmed the 2 liter diesel with like 260lbft of torque for the Cruze; supposedly it'll get 50mpg on the highway, as well.


http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/17/chevrolet-targeting-50-mpg-with-diesel-powered-cruze/

kimbo305 posted:

Lower rpms turning lower gear ratios (since the torque can be multiplied less) means less fuel consumed, right?

Cream_Filling posted:

While we're talking smaller GMs:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/breaking-chevrolet-finally-confirms-new-colorado-pickup-for-u-s/

New US market Chevy Colorado is coming, might look like this:

Astroman posted:

Cons: V6, it's still no long land yacht, and it's just a concept, but they say this is the direction their designs will be going in, which is fantastic.
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SouthLAnd posted:

The thing I love about this is that the car had been wrecked 3 weeks earlier, and the NHTSA just ignored the huge 435lb Li-Ion battery in the middle of the car. Hell, even GM recommends that the battery be drained after a major collision to avoid fires. The only headline that should come from this story is "NHTSA Retarded: Wrecked cars can (still) catch fire".

http://www.green.autoblog.com/2011/11/11/chevy-volt-battery-catches-fire-in-nhtsa-lab/z

Completely unrelated, I would drive the new Hyundai Azera any day over a Buick or Avalon. It looks especially good from the side and rear 3/4 view.



3.3L GDI V6, 293hp 255lb-ft, 20/29 EPA rated.

oRenj9 posted:

Yeah, good job on the classy and understated styling there Lincoln.

BoostCreep posted:

Yes, but I have to assume Fiat did have a hand in redesigning the interiors of the current lineup. Go sit in a 2010 Charger, and then sit in a 2011. It's like an entirely different car.

Hashal posted:

Didn't the WS6 Firebird have around the same horsepower and speed as a Corvette, so they just lied and understated the amount of horses the WS6 had?

Wamsutta posted:

gently caress the ILX. gently caress Honda/Acura. I bought a 2004 6MT TSX in 2006 and it's loving awesome. Every car they've released since killing off the 1st gen TSX in 2008 and killing off the S2k has been a succession of big, steaming shits down the throats of car enthusiasts. Honda/Acura was once a brand that had heart and soul and made both practical/economical cars and cars with some performance spirit and now it's just slapping a hideous grille and their standard V6 and an automatic into every ugly douchebag people mover they come up with.

I miss the good days. Get bent, Honda.

XCPuff posted:

The new Impala looks pretty impressive. It's definitely not what I expected.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/04/2014-chevrolet-impala-debuts-all-new-design/

Hopefully they will release an SS awd version. Its the same platform as the new XTS so it shouldn't be a problem...

oRenj9 posted:

You're certainly right, but I can't see why Ford would leave that on the table. I understand that the market for those souped up sedans is small and established with solid competition (WRX). But, if Ford is aiming to get the Fusion over the 300k unit hump, then making an "SVT" version would certainly pay off. They might be able to add 10-15k/yr units for what amounts to some engine tuning and a different transmission.

Fucknag posted:

It's amazing, really. While he was there, I remember a lot of LUTZ from the automotive press. Now he seems to be a missed opportunity for GM to really become competitive.

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Holy mother of gently caress that's a lot of Souls. It makes sense, though - at that price point for a stylish city run-about and stuff hauler it's a no-brainer.

Throatwarbler posted:

Well the 1991 Sentra had IRS.

Insideline has driven the Dodge Dart and it looks good.

http://www.insideline.com/dodge/dart/2013/2013-dodge-dart-rallye-first-drive.html

kimbo305 posted:

But the price difference between a nice MS3 and the loaded-to-the-gills 3 is only $1000 or so, with the main difference being the seats (MS3 not full leather or power adjust).
I can't think of any other manufacturer that offers the power/fast model for such a small bump in price.

Steve McScene posted:

It also has a V12. So boss.
He needs those F40 inspired wheels I posted a while back on it though.

Mighty Horse posted:

As much as I hate Daimler for nearly killing Chrysler, They did this well before that whole nightmare started.

Did Plymouth, Chrysler AND Dodge all need a Minivan? Hell, for a brief Period they even made a Plymouth version of the Rampage.

VikingSkull posted:

Yeah, I was just gonna post that. The Aviator was terrible, the Mountaineer hardly sold, and the Grand Marquis/Crown Vic was kept alive by fleet and rental sales.

Remember the Lincoln Blackwood? What about the Mark LT?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

There's definitely a right way to do re-badging, but neither of those examples were particularly good.

The Ford Edge / Lincoln MKX isn't bad, and the Acadia / Traverse / Outlook triplets are pretty well differentiated.

Q_res posted:

If you don't mind it being badged as a Chrysler 100, have I got good news for you...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/spy-photos/caught-testing-2013-chrysler-100/

Pseudonym posted:

Time to drag this thread back to the surface... the new Mazda6 will make its debut in Moscow.


Goddamn this is a good-looking car, and I really hope we get the wagon here in the US.

grover posted:

The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune.

Previa_fun posted:

This aside reminded me of this post that showed up on my Facebook feed a few days ago:



She's really smart and gets to travel the world doing biochem things, but she just needs to buy a slightly used Corolla and call it a day. "Price per miles left in the vehicle."

dissss posted:

Is that even close to true?

What American designed large cars ever had any degree of success in export markets? Those Buicks the Chinese loved sprint to mind but what else?

fknlo posted:

I don't get the "Luxury pickup" thing at all. So many people at work have them too.