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Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007




I interviewed for an editorial position with one of the largest Croatian book publishers. They wanted to know two things, how I felt about cookbooks and what were my favorite romance novels. I didn’t get the job.
One of the weird quirks of the local market is, the Ministry of Culture subsidizes new literary translations and that makes them just about profitable with the minuscule print runs. So everything new and interesting gets translated immediately, but god forbid you should want to read a classic or a forty year old title, better hope the library still hasn’t scrapped the 1985 Yugoslav edition.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

- Ska du ha maito i kaffet?


Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

I interviewed for an editorial position with one of the largest Croatian book publishers. They wanted to know two things, how I felt about cookbooks and what were my favorite romance novels. I didn’t get the job.
One of the weird quirks of the local market is, the Ministry of Culture subsidizes new literary translations and that makes them just about profitable with the minuscule print runs. So everything new and interesting gets translated immediately, but god forbid you should want to read a classic or a forty year old title, better hope the library still hasn’t scrapped the 1985 Yugoslav edition.

The one weird trick discovered by local publisher (WS Bookwell hates them!) here seems to be "print in the Baltics" because it's in the EU, it's cheap (I guess they don't have unions or something?), and while it's across the sea, it's not a long way across the sea. Also quite a bit of subsidies and grants.

We also have three or four pretty well-working on-line second-hand book shopping sites (which, while it makes it marginally slower to find a certain book because you have to check several sites, is preferable to just having One On-Line Book Store). A lot of the sellers on the sites are on-line only which makes sense nowadays. I hear a certain foreign entity has been expressing great interest in acquiring the business of these sites. But anyway for a reader it's dead easy to find older books, often for quite cheap.

e: But yeah if you don't do cook books, you'd better have a really strong hand otherwise.

3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Apr 12, 2021

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.


3D Megadoodoo posted:

One publisher started out with yoga books and has continued with that and other "rip off the dumbs" books but also publishes nice translations of solid classics. I'd bet the former bring in the money.

Basam? I was baffled to see they've put out the first finnish translation of the book of disquiet

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

- Ska du ha maito i kaffet?


Ras Het posted:

Basam? I was baffled to see they've put out the first finnish translation of the book of disquiet

Yeah. They also published Bartleby & Co. which is still available new for the high price of 2€ - I guess it failed to find a Finnish audience.

e: I actually almost bought O Banqueiro Anarquista last time I was at a book shop but it was 15€ and because I'm poor I bought three 5€ books instead.

3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 12, 2021

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

The next question is "why do booksellers insist on taking an order of fifteen books and mailing each one of them separately, how is that efficient?".

Lucas Archer
Dec 1, 2007
Falling...

I just started reading Love in the Time of Cholera. 17 pages in. I know nothing about this book other than it’s very well regarded.

First impressions - this guy knows how to write. It’s good, folks. Real good.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

- Ska du ha maito i kaffet?


Rand Brittain posted:

The next question is "why do booksellers insist on taking an order of fifteen books and mailing each one of them separately, how is that efficient?".

IDK, never had that happen. But in general - i.e. not just with books - the answer is "logistics costs vs. logistics".

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

Obscene


Lucas Archer posted:

I just started reading Love in the Time of Cholera. 17 pages in. I know nothing about this book other than it’s very well regarded.

First impressions - this guy knows how to write. It’s good, folks. Real good.

You're in for a treat

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Today I noticed belatedly that The Count of Monte Cristo got a release in the standardebooks package - beautifully put together ebooks that you can slap on your ereader and enjoy.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.




StrixNebulosa posted:

Today I noticed belatedly that The Count of Monte Cristo got a release in the standardebooks package - beautifully put together ebooks that you can slap on your ereader and enjoy.

Public domain versions of Count of Monte Cristo are heavily edited, both for length and content (can't scandalize Victorian Englishmen with lesbians after all). I think there are whole chapters missing in addition to pieces of chapters being cut.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Humerus posted:

Public domain versions of Count of Monte Cristo are heavily edited, both for length and content (can't scandalize Victorian Englishmen with lesbians after all). I think there are whole chapters missing in addition to pieces of chapters being cut.

Which publication of the Count would you recommend?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!



Morbid Hound

I believe the only good translation in English is the modern Penguin one.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.




Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I believe the only good translation in English is the modern Penguin one.

Yeah this is the one I bought and from everything I've seen it's the only truly unabridged version.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RI9KL8/

For reference

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Thank you!

Raudedauden
Jun 18, 2005


I have the 2008 Oxford World Classic David Coward translation of The Count of Monte Cristo and it is also unabridged.

(https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/the-count-of-monte-cristo/9780199219650-item.html)

Apparently the language used in this version is modelled after older translations but I am quite enjoying it. It is probably one of my favourite books.

Lucas Archer
Dec 1, 2007
Falling...

Finished the first chapter(?) of Love in the Time of Cholera.

Dr. Urbino's death was nicely foreshadowed in the story about the parrot so I was waiting for it to come back around soon - and I feel like it was hinted at a second time beforehand as well. The entire day seemed incredibly laden with dread, from Jeremiah's letter causing such distress, to Fermina's introduction and the amazingly complicated way she and Urbino interact, to the two events of the day absolutely ruined by rain. The parrot story is, by far, my favorite part of the book so far.

The language is absolutely beautiful and I keep find myself re-reading sentences or paragraphs, trying to work out how he did this or that or conveyed emotions or actions in such a natural way that always feels so creaky and stilted when I write.

Aardvark!
Mar 3, 2002



Heads up for Kindle users - the "Book Cover as Lockscreen" feature has started getting pushed in the U.S., Canada, E.U. and more.

Weird having them finally implement it after all these years.

Chamberk
Jan 11, 2004

when there is nothing left to burn you have to set yourself on fire


Aardvark! posted:

Heads up for Kindle users - the "Book Cover as Lockscreen" feature has started getting pushed in the U.S., Canada, E.U. and more.

Weird having them finally implement it after all these years.

I would ask how you get it, but I've gotten kind of used to the "Her Billionaire Cowboy Birthday Wish"-style lock screens, they're pretty great

Aardvark!
Mar 3, 2002



Chamberk posted:

I would ask how you get it, but I've gotten kind of used to the "Her Billionaire Cowboy Birthday Wish"-style lock screens, they're pretty great

I've never actually seen those since I haven't ever used an ad supported Kindle. Presumably you'd have to pay the remove ads fee

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






Just finished the Seventh Cross and oh my god do I not loving care about Ernst the Shepherd.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

News of the
Clown Crew
On the Move




I don't know if this is the place to ask, please excuse me if it's not. Is there a way to buy another region's version of an audiobook online? Becky Chambers' new book is out in the US, but apparently the versions of her previous books that I got, narrated by Patricia Rodriguez, are UK/Canada versions, and they're region locked now or something. I get that there are distribution restrictions that stores have to follow, I just would like to stick with the same narrator if possible.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




I add books to my iphone sometimes (directly via browser) and read them on there, but i very rarely open up books.app on my mac. But when I do, they sync in from icloud and the newest "batch" all say Date Added: April 23, 2021 & Last Read: April 23, 2021 even the ones i havent even read yet

they still sort correctly on my phone, so what gives?!

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

We dance for socialism!


So I read the premise of "Native Son" and I'm kind of confused about it. It's suppose to be a book that shits on well to do white liberals but apparently the main character who is black rapes and accidentally kills a girl. Can someone expand on this please?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

- Ska du ha maito i kaffet?


punk rebel ecks posted:

So I read the premise of "Native Son" and I'm kind of confused about it. It's suppose to be a book that shits on well to do white liberals

Where the hell did you get that idea?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!



Morbid Hound

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I read the premise of "Native Son" and I'm kind of confused about it. It's suppose to be a book that shits on well to do white liberals but apparently the main character who is black rapes and accidentally kills a girl. Can someone expand on this please?

quote:

While not apologizing for Bigger's crimes, Wright portrays a systemic causation behind them. Bigger's lawyer, Boris Max, makes the case that there is no escape from this destiny for his client or any other black American since they are the necessary product of the society that formed them and told them since birth who exactly they were supposed to be.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

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I'm reading a children's book* about a Polish kid who gets transported back in time to 1880 and I'm actually getting angry at how she's portrayed as a complete idiot. Page after page of "oh why are you dressed so funny, [person from 1880], oh why do I have to wear a corset I'm not wearing a corset I'm going to be naked, oh why is this washer-woman not someone I should talk to I'm going to talk to this washer-woman" when it was established loving 30 pages ago that 1880 is 1880, and the protagonist is 14 years old, not a toddler, and therefore should have gotten it after a few times, but noooo she makes the same hilarious gaffes with every new (old) thing she lays eyes on. Makes me remember why I didn't really read many of these kids' books back when I was a kid - I always thought the main characters loving sucked.

There's only one writer I can think of who wrote child protagonists who weren't either poo poo-for-brains gently caress-ups or disgusting superhumans, and that's pretty odd considering most if not all writers were at some point in their lives children themselves.

*) Godzina Pasowej Rõzy by Maria Krüger. Why am I reading a kids' book? Because it was there and I'll never get rid of a book until I've read it. e: A policy I'm seriously considering changing now that I see I have like 20 unread Famous Five books.

3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 25, 2021

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat




3D Megadoodoo posted:

There's only one writer I can think of who wrote child protagonists who weren't either poo poo-for-brains gently caress-ups or disgusting superhumans, and that's pretty odd considering most if not all writers were at some point in their lives children themselves.
My favorite child protagonists are Elizabeth Enright's Melendy family. If you ever find the time for kids' books that you didn't already have lying around, check hers out!

Edit: Also Harriet the Spy; can't believe I forgot that one.

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Apr 26, 2021

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

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Sham bam bamina! posted:

My favorite child protagonists are Elizabeth Enright's Melendy family. If you ever find the time for kids' books that you didn't already have lying around, check hers out!

Edit: Also Harriet the Spy; can't believe I forgot that one.

Unless I somehow get a kid, I don't think I'll be looking for new reading material of that type. Especially considering how many I already have.

Anyway, just finished Nobi by Shōhei Ōoka and it was pretty hosed up. It's about a Japanese soldier in the Philippines getting separated from his company and wandering around an island while the Yanks are taking it and have taken it, slowly going insane and maybe getting religion of some kind IDK I'm really stupid?. The author fought in the Philippines and became a POW there himself. Apparently - according to Wikipedia anyway - the English translator (I read it in Finnish) just cut out all the weird bits so I'd imagine it's a really short read in English.

Because it was missing the dust jacket, I had no idea it was a war novel when I bought it, it just had a neat cover and cost ½€.

Doc Fission
Sep 10, 2011





3D Megadoodoo posted:

Anyway, just finished Nobi by Shōhei Ōoka and it was pretty hosed up. It's about a Japanese soldier in the Philippines getting separated from his company and wandering around an island while the Yanks are taking it and have taken it, slowly going insane and maybe getting religion of some kind IDK I'm really stupid?. The author fought in the Philippines and became a POW there himself. Apparently - according to Wikipedia anyway - the English translator (I read it in Finnish) just cut out all the weird bits so I'd imagine it's a really short read in English.

Because it was missing the dust jacket, I had no idea it was a war novel when I bought it, it just had a neat cover and cost ½€.



Wow, this looks really interesting. I'm from the PH so I think I'll go looking for this too.

I'm rereading Kafka on the Shore because it was one of my favorite books as a young adult and I want to see if it holds up. But it does hit different after working through a decent chunk of Murakami's bibliography over the years which trends pretty samey and also consistently has scenes where an adult man hallucinates banging a mysterious teen girl

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007




Soiled Meat

I'm starting up book six of Aubrey Maturin and I've come to realize my absolute favorite parts are when the author reintroduces us to Jack and Stepehen by some illustrative scene; playing cricket, borrowing money, visiting a paymaster. They're short scenes filled with the essence of the characters and it sends a wave of recognition and pleasure over me every time.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving
And something has got to give


3D Megadoodoo posted:

Unless I somehow get a kid, I don't think I'll be looking for new reading material of that type. Especially considering how many I already have.

Anyway, just finished Nobi by Shōhei Ōoka and it was pretty hosed up. It's about a Japanese soldier in the Philippines getting separated from his company and wandering around an island while the Yanks are taking it and have taken it, slowly going insane and maybe getting religion of some kind IDK I'm really stupid?. The author fought in the Philippines and became a POW there himself. Apparently - according to Wikipedia anyway - the English translator (I read it in Finnish) just cut out all the weird bits so I'd imagine it's a really short read in English.

I've read this in English (as Fires on the Plain), and it's still got plenty of weird poo poo going on. I don't remember what it does with the narrative stuff, unfortunately -- it's been a while.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

- Ska du ha maito i kaffet?


Antivehicular posted:

I've read this in English (as Fires on the Plain), and it's still got plenty of weird poo poo going on. I don't remember what it does with the narrative stuff, unfortunately -- it's been a while.

And, of course, Wikipedia is Wikipedia so who knows.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Very annoyed after buying a number of "new" books off AbeBooks, which are nothing like new.

Like, I knew that books printed in the 90s weren't going to be new new, but I did think they'd at least be new-ish or mint-like.

But they were not, and generally I'd struggle to call some of them even "very good."

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat




Report the sellers.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!



If you're buying books and condition is important, you really should only buy listings that provide enough photographs to prove the books are in the described condition. Typically this means you're buying from Ebay more often than not.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!



Morbid Hound

https://twitter.com/alloy_dr/status/1389529656899084290?s=20

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment.



Grimey Drawer

Rand Brittain posted:

Very annoyed after buying a number of "new" books off AbeBooks, which are nothing like new.

Like, I knew that books printed in the 90s weren't going to be new new, but I did think they'd at least be new-ish or mint-like.

But they were not, and generally I'd struggle to call some of them even "very good."

Also don't buy from AbeBooks. It's an Amazon subsidiary. Buy from BetterWorldBooks or Half Price Book (HPB.com) or BookShop.org . They're more up-front about the quality of their books, too.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




I've bought from BetterWorldBooks before but I wonder how that works with Brexit, cause the Danish customs fees on anything from outside the EU are prohibitive.

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

Obscene


Carthag Tuek posted:

I wonder how that works with Brexit

like most things related to Brexit, it doesn't

sometimes UK origin books have customs fees, sometimes they don't

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




lol yeah that figures

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