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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007


Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





shame on an IGA posted:

Take a look at 9:00



That's not too bad, the pilot pulled up and to his left to avoid the risk of flying into a boiler explosion. It's still too drat low.

Check the accuracy against a speeding car at 4:12
Now those are some boiler explosions. 0:38 is particularly spectacular. I'd be tempted to fly through that too.

Me-163 at 1:50 !


e. And this needed music,

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5e...over-europe.php

mllaneza fucked around with this message at 17:45 on May 23, 2020

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aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009

kiss kiss


Pillbug

e: ^^^^ I thought that that looked like a 163

PainterofCrap posted:

I'm looking for that footage of a Jug that flies through the explosion it triggered. Can't recall if there was ever a follow-up story to that footage.

Found this footage, which has some hot hot arborist action starting at 2:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP-oDzhBUq8

Oh man this one also has a guy almost turning his plane into a u-boat while trying to strafe a parked floatplane

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


This poo poo still happens. We had an F-15E fly right into the loving ground practicing strafing about ten years ago. That was one of only two times I've watched JPRC kick off for real (the other was Bergdahl).

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

Godholio posted:

This poo poo still happens. We had an F-15E fly right into the loving ground practicing strafing about ten years ago. That was one of only two times I've watched JPRC kick off for real (the other was Bergdahl).

This may be apocryphal, but I’ve heard that after reviewing tapes from Operation Anaconda, a bunch of pilots were post-mission surprised/concerned to realize how many bingo and break-off alerts they’d blown through while doing CAS.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


I've never heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye



I know in one of these reels I've seen aircraft strafing a German airfield, and the filming plane has to pull up to get over the taxiing Ju 88 it just strafed

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010


Just thought y’all would like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGDA...eature=youtu.be

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014



College Slice

Just a few trees.



And a telephone pole or two.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5Dxizy4ZE

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010



I'd bet money that for the next 7 years everyone in his unit would ask him to judge how big random spaces are and if he could fit an Apache through it.

"God drat, look how big that crack in the sidewalk is, think you can fly through it?"

"Those cars are parked pretty close together, think you can fly between em?"

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Aww, so I had my slant on. Lay off me!


Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

Overflying the target you just obliterated, part of which has been converted into a giant debris cloud, is also not great form.

In fairness, the US was pooping out new pilots at breakneck speed during WW2, and (in a tradition that continues today) aircraft accident losses dwarfed actual combat losses: 22,948 in combat, 42,171 in accidents.

My grandfather flew B-25s. He wanted to fly B-17s but washed out because from what it sounds like he wasn't good at taildraggers (my dad said all he ever said about his B-17 training was that he landed "short of the runway")

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



That's one of my favourite things ever. "Oh yee of little faith"

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Humphreys posted:

That's one of my favourite things ever. "Oh yee of little faith"

This one's always been a close second (volume warning): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3rR8OIkSpA

Apache crew shows off for troops at a FOB, performs a 'return to target' maneuver, forgets the air is thinner at higher altitude and doesn't grant as much lift, pancakes into the snowpack, severs the tail, and cartwheels. Pilot and gunner survived with 'minor injuries.'

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


Oof that video makes me so loving angry; that battalion also ruined multiple aircraft due to widespread poor understanding of an aircraft warning system during that same rotation. Doing airshow poo poo in RC-East is about the most obvious bad decision making you can do. I flew with them out of Sharana during this tour for about a month where the parking ramp is 7300' MSL and many of your local tiny FOB/COPs/FARPs are above that. An excellent reminder that dipshit aviating continues to be a primary contributor to avoidable accidents.

Ambihelical Hexnut fucked around with this message at 19:12 on May 24, 2020

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

Bad planning or just a battalion of fuckups?

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


I think a confluence of unit culture, mid-combat-tour comfortability, and every flying organization having someone who has previously gotten away with taking a risk they didn't understand. But drat, this example is hopefully the stupidest thing we will ever see a 64 do.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



Helicopters? Strafe runs? Showing off?

https://imgur.com/gallery/zqR1cqK

https://imgur.com/gallery/LpwXe0H

[Url]https://i.imgur.com/QiS7w87.gifv

Also:

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZQlkYsO

(Changed images to urls for phone data people)

simplefish fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 25, 2020

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


Oh man that fuckin huey pancake. What is wrong with people.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012





Gravy Boat 2k


That helicopter doesn't appear to have a swash plate. What is he controlling with the "cyclic?"

Warbird
May 23, 2012

Burn the 'dawgs
Kill the Yellowjackets
Purge the Tiger
It is better to die for Bama than to live for yourself


Fun Shoe

Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

Oh man that fuckin huey pancake. What is wrong with people.

I’m gonna have to go with “gravity” friend.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


I think gravity was roughly constant throughout his flying career, which makes it all the more confusing that he'd choose to load full of pax and tail stand like that.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



Sagebrush posted:

That helicopter doesn't appear to have a swash plate. What is he controlling with the "cyclic?"

I’m gonna have to go with “gravity” friend.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

I think gravity was roughly constant throughout his flying career, which makes it all the more confusing that he'd choose to load full of pax and tail stand like that.

It looked pretty heavily loaded, possibly overloaded? Maybe he over controlled and went into vortex ring state?

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007
Injection-Molded

simplefish posted:

Helicopters? Strafe runs? Showing off?

https://imgur.com/gallery/zqR1cqK

https://imgur.com/gallery/LpwXe0H

[Url]https://i.imgur.com/QiS7w87.gifv

Also:

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZQlkYsO

(Changed images to urls for phone data people)

If the Apache fuckups are bad, imagine what Soviet/Russian stupid pilot tricks like these, writ large, must look like.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


"Russian military helicopter" is like saying crazy three times.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014



College Slice

Being a Hind pilot means not having to give a gently caress, apparently. That's how I fly attack helicopters in video games, so they're just living the dream.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020



Phanatic posted:



I don't think the engines are supposed to look like that.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4d7a6e9a

quote:

On May 23rd 2020 Pakistani media are reporting quoting sources within the Civil Aviation Authority, that the aircraft touched down on the runway with retracted gear during their first approach, climbed again and positioned for another approach. Ground observers reported sparks from the aircraft when it touched the ground. Later in the afternoon/evening local time Pakistani media reported scrape marks were found on the runway indicating that one engine had contacted the runway first, then some distance later the second engine, too, with both engines now scraping over the runway until the aircraft became airborne again.

On May 23rd 2020 Karachi Airport reported based on CAA inspection report that the runway inspection revealed scrape marks of the left engine start 4500 feet down the runway, the right engine scrape marks begin 5500 feet down the runway. About 6000-7000 feet past the runway threshold the scrape marks end.

On May 24th 2020 Pakistan's media quote a CAA official speaking on condition of anonymity that the aircraft made two attempts to land. During the first approach it appears the landing gear was still retracted when the aircraft neared the runway, the pilot had not indicated any anomaly or emergency, emergency services thus did not respond and did not foam the runway as would be done in case of a gear malfunction. The marks on the runway between 4500 feet and 7000 feet down the runway suggest the engines made contact with the runway surface, it is possible that the engines were damaged during that contact with the runway surface leading even to possibly fire.

On May 24th 2020 a spokesman of the airline said, the landing gear had not been (partially or fully) lowered prior to the first touch down. The crew did not call out the standard operating procedures for an anomaly and no emergency was declared. Most likely the crew was not mentally prepared for a belly landing and went around when they realized the engines were scraping the runway.


I am not a plane person, but I though that landing without the wheels down was something that doesn't happen very often with the Big Planes?

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!


hobbesmaster posted:

It looked pretty heavily loaded, possibly overloaded? Maybe he over controlled and went into vortex ring state?

I love how they went from fast rope to hop out.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019


Moo the cow posted:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4d7a6e9a



I am not a plane person, but I though that landing without the wheels down was something that doesn't happen very often with the Big Planes?

Not a pilot, but gear not being down is a unmutable constant alarm in an airbus. No loving clue what was going on there

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Xakura posted:

Not a pilot, but gear not being down is a unmutable constant alarm in an airbus. No loving clue what was going on there

presuming everything else is working correctly, sure

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


So they gear-upped an Airbus on the nacelles, presumably crushed the poo poo out of the accessory gearboxes, dumped all the lube oil from both engines over the city as they went around, and then stalled it into the ground when the engines inevitably lost thrust because they seized up.

Lesson: When you gear-up land an airplane, keep it landed. You already hosed up, but you hosed up in a mild, survivable way. Don’t gently caress up in a spectacular, dynamic, smoking hole in the ground sort of way.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

presuming everything else is working correctly, sure

You can hear the chime on the atc recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzwYKGLNnY#t=41s

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008






Taco Defender

Xakura posted:

Not a pilot, but gear not being down is a unmutable constant alarm in an airbus. No loving clue what was going on there

Approach asks if he's going to land on his belly when he's coming back in after losing the engines, which kinda sounds like there was maybe a gear issue to start with, beyond forgetting to put it down. Who knows though, that's just inference.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019


Mao Zedong Thot posted:

Approach asks if he's going to land on his belly when he's coming back in after losing the engines, which kinda sounds like there was maybe a gear issue to start with, beyond forgetting to put it down. Who knows though, that's just inference.

Pilot never communicates an issue with landing gear. Controller only asks after his first (engine scraping) landing attempt, presumably because he saw the sparks. CCTV footage of the plane showed it managed to deploy landing gear before it crashed.

Xakura fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 26, 2020

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

FR8 4 LYFE

Fun Shoe

Will an airbus allow you to select a landing flaps setting with the gear up?

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008


Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

If the Apache fuckups are bad, imagine what Soviet/Russian stupid pilot tricks like these, writ large, must look like.

Also let's not forget this gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSE0rWytbg

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



I hadn't heard about this raid. So incredibly brave and audacious. Sadly it had no effect on the outcome, but it was well worth a try!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqystIYoJ6o

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here





I was expecting a low pass or something...

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye



Ola posted:

I hadn't heard about this raid. So incredibly brave and audacious. Sadly it had no effect on the outcome, but it was well worth a try!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqystIYoJ6o

Same. The part where the DC-3 gets stuck is just

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azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005


Arson Daily posted:

Will an airbus allow you to select a landing flaps setting with the gear up?

I think it will, but I believe it throws out some kind of configuration warning in that situation.

In addition, the GPWS will give "TOO LOW-GEAR" at some point, so unless the crew had the GPWS overridden, there should have been more than one warning that the gear wasn't where it was supposed to be.

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