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someone came out for a bit of fresh air today!
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The Locator posted:I autocross on the same ramp with 6 of those. Maybe parts planes? Beechcraft bought most of them back, theres only a handfull still flying.
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Apr 26, 2012 22:12
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Geizkragen posted:Yeah, not all of them are Mode C capable either, and I'm pretty sure TCAS needs altitude reporting. It only needs Altitude for Resolution Advisories, otherwise it will still track the intruder with or without altitude
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Apr 27, 2012 00:07
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The Locator posted:I autocross on the same ramp with 6 of those. Would that be on the ramp at Marana, AZ? I'm asking because there are several Starships parked there, and they're indeed being used for parts. When Raytheon scrapped the Starships at Pinal (about 20 miles north of Marana), there were a few owners who refused to sell their airplanes, and the company doing the scrapping sold them those airframes to cannibalize for spares.
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Apr 27, 2012 01:24
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Linedance posted:someone came out for a bit of fresh air today! Is that the one they're restoring to airworthiness for the olympics? When is it scheduled to fly?
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Apr 27, 2012 01:45
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The Ferret King posted:Non transponder aircraft are allowed in Class D and E airspace, which are controlled. Class E airspace makes up a good chunk of all airspace in the US. You're right, I typically just lump Class E under "uncontrolled" because a lot of traffic isn't receiving advisory information. With the exception of the east coast, I think about half the non-air route traffic I've seen was not squawking. The east coast is such a loving mess.
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Apr 27, 2012 02:01
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As a terminal radar controller, I've issued plenty of non-squawking traffic to pilots and have been met by shock and amazement at times, because it turned out to be some biplane or crop duster at their altitude. Hell, on my private pilot check ride, we nearly hit a Mooney who wasn't squawking. We had flight following and the traffic was called, which helped us out a lot. I was under the hood at the time, the examiner saw him. Non transponder aircraft can be very difficult to notice on radar, and there are butt loads of false targets. I dunno what my point it really. TCAS is great but let's all keep our eyes out the window too!
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Apr 27, 2012 03:12
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The Ferret King posted:
Finding the real + or . on a busy day doesn't seem easy.
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Apr 27, 2012 03:19
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The Ferret King posted:
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Apr 27, 2012 04:28
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We don't get a lot of issues with TCAS on the C-130H, but when we do, its usually the tower isn't seeing them, they land....and we wipe down the antennas, suddenly it works again and life is good. Every now and then its a bad IFF transponder though (IFF Controls our TCAS modes for us)
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Apr 27, 2012 04:37
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D C posted:Maybe parts planes? Beechcraft bought most of them back, theres only a handfull still flying. Yes, they are parts planes for a rich guy who wants to keep his flying (or at least that's the story I was told). azflyboy posted:Would that be on the ramp at Marana, AZ? Those are the ones. There are six of them there, the engines have all been removed, but they are still pretty.
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Apr 27, 2012 04:45
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9f_1335390665 A P-3 entering the eye of a hurricane. Look at those gauges sway as they enter. 
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Apr 27, 2012 05:41
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Ruse posted:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9f_1335390665 See the co-pilot jump out of his seat....wow.
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Apr 27, 2012 05:48
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Advent Horizon posted:Is that the one they're restoring to airworthiness for the olympics? Oh wow, are they? I hadn't heard about that!  a flyover of Stratford for the opening ceremonies would be awesome!
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Apr 27, 2012 07:13
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Ruse posted:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9f_1335390665 Cool cassette tape drives. 
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Apr 27, 2012 10:16
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Ruse posted:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9f_1335390665 Holy poo poo my job is boring.
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Apr 27, 2012 10:36
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Geizkragen posted:I tried to read the whole thread but skipped that last 2K posts or so... Is there ANYWHERE you cant stick a go pro?
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Apr 27, 2012 11:15
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fknlo posted:Finding the real + or . on a busy day doesn't seem easy. On the terminal ARTS IIE system (round green scope with the sweep) it would actually put a small digital diamond target over primaries it thought were aircraft. My current facility has STARS (rectangular display, color, no sweep) and it doesn't tag primaries at all. They're just small dark blue blips that move around slowly against a black background. I've often wondered about the reasoning behind making them less noticeable on the newer equipment.
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Apr 27, 2012 12:58
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Advent Horizon posted:Is that the one they're restoring to airworthiness for the olympics? I remember hearing something about it, but promptly forgot. They're actually doing it then? That'll be awesome. I hope it's subsidized somehow or some poor charity is going to go broke feeding the old girl.
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Apr 27, 2012 14:06
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Here are a couple of Goon RivuletsofGlop's photos from his time at Mildenhall in the 80s. Because he's too loving lazy to post them himself. I even scanned the damned things for him & everything. Of course, he couldn't be bothered to give me the negatives, so the quality sucks.  
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Apr 27, 2012 14:17
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slidebite posted:I remember hearing something about it, but promptly forgot. They're actually doing it then? That'll be awesome. I hope it's subsidized somehow or some poor charity is going to go broke feeding the old girl. I've spoken to some of my colleagues at about it and nobody so far has heard this rumour. One of them doesn't believe BA would be able to get the aircraft into an airworthy condition in time, but then who knows how long they've been working on that if the rumour is true. I'll keep my ear to the ground.
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Apr 27, 2012 14:47
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PainterofCrap posted:Here are a couple of Goon RivuletsofGlop's photos from his time at Mildenhall in the 80s. Because he's too loving lazy to post them himself. I even scanned the damned things for him & everything. Of course, he couldn't be bothered to give me the negatives, so the quality sucks. It's a shame that only one of these birds is flying right now (probably in the desert) and it ain't the Blackbird.
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Apr 27, 2012 14:59
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From a friend that works at JFK (landed earlier today).
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Apr 27, 2012 18:22
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Romes128 posted:From a friend that works at JFK (landed earlier today). I snapped a bunch when it flew up and down the hudson river. Was fortunate enough to have access to the top floor and the roof of the office building I was in.. For the first pass we were inside since it was windy as gently caress and we figured it would go up the river. But no, it went RIGHT OVER OUR BUILDING. For the return pass we all went up on the roof. Here's a couple of the best ones, cropped to show the SCA and not a bunch of clouds.       Links to a couple fullsized ones. Chase plane visible in some: http://biggy.backslider.net/IMG_0400.JPG http://biggy.backslider.net/IMG_0418.JPG http://biggy.backslider.net/IMG_0419.JPG http://biggy.backslider.net/IMG_0420.JPG http://biggy.backslider.net/IMG_0421.JPG
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Apr 27, 2012 23:34
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Fantastic pics, thanks. Good to see Enterprise in the air again for the first time in almost 30 years.
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Apr 28, 2012 01:22
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Somehow I've wound up spending the last hour checking out the west coast on Google Maps with satellite images. Look what I found at Edwards AFB: e: Nellis has a few of them, along with some fighters in modern camo patterns. angryhampster fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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Apr 28, 2012 15:16
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Has anyone else seen this news report that they've found as many as 20 of the rare Mark XIV Spitfires with the Rolls Royce Griffon engines in mint condition that were ordered, delivered in crates, and promptly buried in Burma. Awesome.
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Apr 28, 2012 15:39
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Yes I did see that last week - if it's true then Hell, what a find! Wonder how much they want for one?!
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Apr 28, 2012 17:05
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angryhampster posted:Somehow I've wound up spending the last hour checking out the west coast on Google Maps with satellite images. Look what I found at Edwards AFB: What one are we looking at here? Nellis looks like its pictures were taken during a flag. The Tornados and E-3/E-8/RJ are a dead giveaway. Also, I am laughing my rear end off that 83-0008, the AWACS that crash landed a few years ago, is still parked there, still scorched. They're not gonna fix it, but I figured it'd be in at least partial disassembly, or in a hangar.
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Apr 28, 2012 17:15
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Godholio posted:What one are we looking at here? Bottom, from left to right: Something Rutan-ish B-25 B1 money pit C-5? DC-3/C-47 Top: Harrier? and an F-14? (edit) that's a Marauder? That greenhouse don't look right... (edit2) I'm going blind...Invader... and also note the dihedral in the horizontal stabilizer PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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Apr 28, 2012 18:56
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PainterofCrap posted:Harrier? and an F-14? Don't think it's a harrier, the intake looks more like a corsair to me. e: given the camo, I'd personally guess it to be one of edwards' YA-7F Strikefighters prototypes SybilVimes fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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Apr 28, 2012 19:11
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Not quite. See this page for more details, but the ones you missed on the bottom are B-26 instead of B-25, and C-141 instead of C-5, and the top two are an A-7 and F-111.
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Apr 28, 2012 19:13
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Godholio posted:What one are we looking at here? Also the Growlers. That AWACS and the J-STARS that's stuck over in the desert make me laugh every time I think about them.
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Apr 28, 2012 20:56
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Godholio posted:What one are we looking at here? The B-1. I've always been fascinated by them.
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Apr 29, 2012 00:57
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Stole this from George Takei's facebook: 
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Apr 29, 2012 01:42
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Geizkragen posted:I tried to read the whole thread but skipped that last 2K posts or so... I keep watching this video, can't get enough of it. Really interesting terminology in the radio chatter, too. I wonder if there's a glossary somewhere that could help me understand better...
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Apr 29, 2012 04:08
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azazello posted:I keep watching this video, can't get enough of it. Really interesting terminology in the radio chatter, too. I wonder if there's a glossary somewhere that could help me understand better... Almost all of the words/phrases used were brevity codes.
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Apr 29, 2012 06:40
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That's the first video I've seen like that which doesn't edit out the C2 chatter. Also, it's AF, which is slightly different from Navy. The main ones you'll hear are: BRAA: bearing/range/altitude/aspect angle. Hostile: The target has been positively ID'd as an enemy and engagement is authorized in accordance with theater ROE (a hostile doesn't automatically mean you can shoot it, but it has to be hostile to shoot at). Stacked: Within a group (enemy aircraft within 3 miles of each other), there's a significant altitude difference. I think in this video there's a stack of 42k and 36k. The guy at 42k can shoot a longer range, simply because he's higher. It's a cue for the F-15 guy, who might have his soda-straw radar looking only at the lower dude. Fox #: different numbers mean different types of missiles. 3 is active radar missile (ie, AMRAAM), 2 is IR (Sidewinder). Reference: They're turning to that heading. Pitbull: The AMRAAM's radar is locked onto the target and the target is about to be hosed. A sample call would be: "Cock 01, group BRAA 270/30/32,000, (hot) hostile." Technically hot is assumed unless another direction (like "drag" or pointing away) was specified so it would be left out.
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Apr 29, 2012 15:46
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We've really standardized a lot in the cockpit, it's pretty seamless working with E2, or E3 and flying with 15s.
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The differences are very minor, agreed. I only even brought it up because of the aspect angle, which is treated differently (specifically from 18s to 15s).
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