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iyaayas01 posted:Given the description of the landing (I've seen reports that the plane was within feet of running out of runway surface) and the fact that they had to burn off fuel to get down to a weight to be able to get back out of there safely...the crew just done hosed up. As for the high security, rumor is that the jet had Mattis on board...you know, USMC four star general James Mattis, CENTCOM Commander type. Ok, well, that's hilarious then.
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iyaayas01 posted:Given the description of the landing (I've seen reports that the plane was within feet of running out of runway surface) and the fact that they had to burn off fuel to get down to a weight to be able to get back out of there safely...the crew just done hosed up. As for the high security, rumor is that the jet had Mattis on board...you know, USMC four star general James Mattis, CENTCOM Commander type. Depending on what's going on at CENTCOM, there are times when you just can't land there. Like, you will get threatened with violence if you try to land there (even if you are a Navy jet with a no poo poo get on deck emergency diverting from Key West you will get told to turn the gently caress around or go to Homestead...). It's entirely possible that they weren't taking any traffic there, somebody/something very, very important was on board and needed to get on deck and the pilot said "I can make this happen" and just did it.
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VikingSkull posted:C-17 lands at the wrong airport. Yeah.....they practice short field landings a LOT, where is he getting this? Almost all cargo aircraft (C-130, C-17, etc.) practice STOL
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Geizkragen posted:Well, at least he didn't go offroading at the end. Goddamn that's going to be embarrassing for that crew though. You might be surprised how common this is. Lining up on the wrong runway/taxuway/runway edge occurs several times a week, according to the occurrence reporting system here in Canada. Virtually all the time, someone notices something is amiss and either corrects the situation or initiates a missed approach and tries again. As you can expect, once in a while, nobody picks up on the mistake and ends up landing on a taxiway, or smoking a few hundred feet of runway and taxiway lighting. As for landing at the wrong airport, it's nowhere near as hard as you might expect it to be. I remember a few years ago flying into Great Falls, Montana, we cancelled IFR and descended visually toward what we thought was Great Falls International; turns out, we were heading to Malmstrom AFB instead. We were a long ways off still so there was no issue, but it goes to show that similar airport layouts, combined with unfamiliar surroundings can lead to winding up at the wrong airport. MrChips fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jul 21, 2012 |
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VikingSkull posted:e- also the past couple of days I've seen a largish jet, dunno the type, in all white with no number land at Stewart. Have no idea what it was! I want to say it was two under wing engines, but the all white scheme threw me and I was focused on the tail because of the lack of numbers on it. Probably this guy. They do practice landings all over, a lot here at the Global Transpark in Kinston. Bonus video that incorrectly says it belongs to the CIA
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ApathyGifted posted:Probably this guy. They do practice landings all over, a lot here at the Global Transpark in Kinston. Wow, yeah, that probably is it. Thanks! e- Yeah, the clickthrough to airliners.net has a pic of it at Rochester on July 11th, that has to be the same plane. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jul 22, 2012 |
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Ugh, why would anyone think it's a CIA plane? That's what shell corporations are for!
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Beerios posted:Ugh, why would anyone think it's a CIA plane? That's what shell corporations are for! Coincidentally, a 737 owned by a CIA shell corporation was apparently temporarily housed here in Kinston. It was used for transporting prisoners, dubbed "torture flights." With that story running around, it's easy to see why a completely unmarked plane would draw that conclusion. We also regularly get practice landings from F-15E's, V-22's, C-130's, KC-135's, and what I think is a C-123. Also, occasionally one of the VC-25's. And four times, an Antonov 124 to carry some A350 center fuselages for Spirit Aero (same company that sends 737 fuselages by train).
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Beerios posted:Ugh, why would anyone think it's a CIA plane? That's what shell corporations are for! There was a unmarked C-130 at a certain airbase that was whitewashed, had multiple NVIS cameras on the outside and multiple satellite antennas. We were told that if our aircraft or theirs bumped into ours, we were to ignore it and claim it was weather damaged 
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Jul 22, 2012 02:42
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ApathyGifted posted:Probably this guy. They do practice landings all over, a lot here at the Global Transpark in Kinston. It's obviously transporting dissidents to FEMA camps.
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CommieGIR posted:There was a unmarked C-130 at a certain airbase that was whitewashed, had multiple NVIS cameras on the outside and multiple satellite antennas. We were told that if our aircraft or theirs bumped into ours, we were to ignore it and claim it was weather damaged Really, at this point it doesn't even matter what line item the money came from or who "owns" it. Beerios fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 22, 2012 |
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Geizkragen posted:Depending on what's going on at CENTCOM, there are times when you just can't land there. Like, you will get threatened with violence if you try to land there (even if you are a Navy jet with a no poo poo get on deck emergency diverting from Key West you will get told to turn the gently caress around or go to Homestead...). It's entirely possible that they weren't taking any traffic there, somebody/something very, very important was on board and needed to get on deck and the pilot said "I can make this happen" and just did it. A silly mistake but nobody died and they can use the plane again too!
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The vast majority of unmarked passenger planes you see around are private charters (for sports teams and large businesses, like oil companies) or foreign government heads of state transports... often 'prince planes' from the middle east. When the CIA needs to move poo poo, they more often than not use the same drat charter flights as any other government agency.
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iyaayas01 posted:As for the high security, rumor is that the jet had Mattis on board...you know, USMC four star general James Mattis, CENTCOM Commander type.
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Friend posted this on Facebook. The sound's useless, unfortunately, it's just an awful soundtrack, but it's supposedly a CH-53 that looks to be recovering a Chinook, but the the load starts oscillating on them and they cut it loose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qQlV5S1kMs Anyone know more?
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Anyone ever see the planes with the red stripes that fly in and out of Vegas daily with no markings that take workers to area 51?
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OptimusMatrix posted:Anyone ever see the planes with the red stripes that fly in and out of Vegas daily with no markings that take workers to area 51? JANET (Just Another Non Existent Terminal)
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Is anyone heading to Thunder Over Michigan this year? I'm taking my daughter for some airplane bonding time. Fifi will be there, and a whole bunch of Mustangs, and a Sea Harrier! 
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Man, I need to pay more attention. Took me a while to spot it in all the grain and spray.
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Slung Blade posted:Man, I need to pay more attention. Took me a while to spot it in all the grain and spray. Yeah, its a little easier to spot in the mega version. http://i.imgur.com/qxuI4.jpg
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Is anyone heading to Thunder Over Michigan this year? I'm taking my daughter for some airplane bonding time. Fifi will be there, and a whole bunch of Mustangs, and a Sea Harrier!
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This weekend is the Elmendorf AFB airshow. I get to field all sorts of asinine questions from the general public regarding the E-3 Sentry. Seriously debating mislabeling the retractable lights as "chemtrail nozzles". Something real subtle.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Is anyone heading to Thunder Over Michigan this year? I'm taking my daughter for some airplane bonding time. Fifi will be there, and a whole bunch of Mustangs, and a Sea Harrier! We should have a couple of Hornets heading that way.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:You lucky bastard. I'll make sure to shoot a bunch of pictures. I can't guarantee that some or all won't also include a super stoked two year old smiling her fool head off and yelling about AIRPANES! Octoduck posted:We should have a couple of Hornets heading that way. Oh yeah? I didn't know there would be Hornets there. Out of where, Pacifica? HeyEng posted:Seriously debating mislabeling the retractable lights as "chemtrail nozzles". Something real subtle. Please do this and report back. CroatianAlzheimers fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jul 24, 2012 |
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HeyEng posted:This weekend is the Elmendorf AFB airshow. I get to field all sorts of asinine questions from the general public regarding the E-3 Sentry. The pods on the sides carry missiles for killing babies. And I'm debating even going...traffic is going to be a pain in the rear end, and honestly with the loving Flag in August this is gonna be the last weekend I have stress-free for awhile. At least the airshow means no participants are getting here over the weekend like usual.
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Anybody got Oshkosh plans this year? I won't make it up, but I always like pictures. There isn't anything I'm especially desperate to see on the program, but still a solidly good time with more airplanes than you'll see anywhere else, ever. Also, bratwursts.
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Yes, I'm going saturday.
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OptimusMatrix posted:Anyone ever see the planes with the red stripes that fly in and out of Vegas daily with no markings that take workers to area 51? I took a Cessna 172 to Tonopah, NV a few months ago, and since the airport sits right on the edge the border of the Nellis test range (which contains Area 51), I got to hear some of the Janet flights going into what I'm pretty sure was Area 51. After leaving Vegas (and for a few minutes after entering the restricted area), the Janet flights talk to ATC like any other airplane would, but neither the flight crew nor ATC ever say the name of where they're landing, with ATC not even saying the runway number when they cleared a Janet flight for the approach. Once the aircraft got past a certain point in the approach, they would be told to contact another controller (presumably at Groom Lake), at which point they essentially disappear from radio contact until they head back to Vegas Since Area 51 isn't shown at all on civilian aeronautical charts (and the other airports within the test range are listed normally), I'm guessing that's where those flights were actually going.
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Slo-Tek posted:Anybody got Oshkosh plans this year? I won't make it up, but I always like pictures. Driving up there tonight for the night show. Got a buddy with a camp site. Bringing plenty of beer and grillables. Should be fun.
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HeyEng posted:Seriously debating mislabeling the retractable lights as "chemtrail nozzles". Something real subtle.
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Just watched James Mays Big Idea : come fly with me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9tElz3yqCI Pretty good watch
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Preoptopus posted:Just watched James Mays Big Idea : come fly with me. Wish I could say the same, but I just watched Red Tails. . . 
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I snapped this picture at a wedding last weekend: Wedding hanger by camerazn, on Flickr For the life of me, I can't figure out what model airplane that is. Any ideas?
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Looks like a T-6 Texan/Harvard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_T-6_Texan
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Makes sense: the wedding was in Paris, TX.
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Just got back from EAA, my feet are killing me. It was pretty quiet I would say but it was only a Tuesday....Good to see Old Crow still flying and my god does Duggy need a face lift. It was my first camping experience there and I must say its insane. Sadley my phone died and I forgot my charger so I hope some of you got some pictures. Now I'm all fired and up and watching this documentary on Rolls Royce engines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfomloUg2Gw Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 26, 2012 |
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HeyEng posted:This weekend is the Elmendorf AFB airshow. I get to field all sorts of asinine questions from the general public regarding the E-3 Sentry. The deployable dome is always fun. If you ever get to fly a fam ride for anyone , you can really get them to buy into it. Have everyone strap in, seat belt light on, dirty up the jet for a few seconds during the "launch" and "recovery" and get an AWO to drive a sim-over-live dot and say it's the dome.
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This guy is bloody crackers  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM7ksfRVF70 Running a rescued RB211 from a TriStar. In his back garden. (without a FOD guard)
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