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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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How likely is this theory that gradual decompression led to everyone losing consciousness before warnings went off? It seems like this would be like a thing every airplane manufacturer would have planned for from the very beginning of pressurized cabins but reading this thread I've learned not to assume things like that.

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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I thought the story was that the pilot was only pretending to not understand and was razzing the instructor because he had a reputation for being a dick? Then again he was boiling alive and almost popped the canopy off so maybe it wasn't a prank.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Boy, 16, hitches ride from California to Hawaii in plane's landing gear

Truly a boy dedicated to Aeronautical Insanity. Is the wheel well even pressurized?

e: wait that's a dumb question, how did he survive

Eej fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Apr 21, 2014

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I just came across some pictures of the An-74 and the Boeing YC-17 and now I'm wondering, how come the idea of putting the engines on top of the wings never caught on? Is there some kind of major drawback like maintenance or poor flight characteristics that offsets the STOL ability?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Perhaps they didn't want to insult the Lebanese if they ever had to dock in their harbour!

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Speaking of (as a casual reader), is Sweden like an Aeronautical Galapagos or something? Saab's fighter designs go from a pusher prop, to a flying barrel, to a double delta wing and then canards as far as the eye can see (also sort of related, the Stridvagn 103). Supposedly they were quite good designs but I don't think any other planes really picked up on their design details?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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On a WW2 related note, is there some really dumb story about military procurement and the US' inability to produce a working 20mm cannon during the war even though the British kept sending them perfectly working designs for them to copy?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Well it's certainly one way to intercept a Bear.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

The WWII glider badge is the chest-hair-havingest of aeronautical ratings.

What was the casualty rate of those things anyway? Every time I read about them it's like "oh yeah like almost half of them flew into the ocean/a hill/trees".

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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dissss posted:

The three V bombers all have somewhat of that look about them. I think it's because they all look like they could be straight out of 50s sci fi

The Vulcan even has firing ports for its twin-linked plasma cannons!

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Much like anything with a bit of tub, it can look pretty nice from certain angles.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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A Handed Missus posted:



F-8 SUPERCRITICAL WING has a nice ring to it. Looks happier than usual, too.

Still not as happy as the happiest variant.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Man reading up on WWI planes makes me realize how utterly insane pilots were back then. Flying around in a wood and canvas contraption powered by a spinning engine with less horsepower than a modern day midrange sportbike, vulnerable to basically any firearm on the battlefield, hoping your dumb engine doesn't just spray all its oil into your face and your synchronization gear actually works and you don't shoot off your own propeller.

Then you get to all the silly things they did like parking your plane on top of a balloon to avoid detection.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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vessbot posted:

Synchronization gear... only after it was invented! Before that, it was metal deflector plates on the back of the prop.

Wait, how did they prevent bullets from ricocheting back into the airframe? Or was that just An Accepted Risk of War before they figured out a not ridiculous way of doing it?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Ardeem posted:

Wait, seriously? After Bell failed (well, for values of failed equal to didn't make a great airplane, just an okay one) with the 39 they tried the midbody engine fighter again?

I thought the Airacobra and Kingcobra were quite successful in the USSR.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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revmoo posted:

Might as well, statistically over 90% of cardiac arrests that occur outside of an ER result in death.

Planes have AEDs so if you're close enough to an airport that you would normally fart around dumping fuel that is definitely a survivable situation.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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MrChips posted:

Yeah an AED raises the survival rate from something like 10% to something like 50%, and you're still going to need real medical attention as fast as you can get it, hence why you make an overweight landing.

The number is supposedly something closer to 75% but that is with actual medical care so my point was getting on the ground asap instead of writing him off as a 5% chance of survival makes sense, not that AEDs will magically restart your heart and we can keep this flight on schedule!

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Scratch Monkey posted:

Germany has laws against displaying "harmful" things, but they're sort of vague. No symbol is specifically outlawed, but use of a one traditionally associated with extremism that is obviously there to promote an illegal ideology is against the law. It would be allowable to paint a swastika on something like that Bf-109 in the interest of historical accuracy, but Germans tend to be (understandably) skittish about doing even that. I, not being German, am not quite so much hence my twitchy-ness.

For instance, here's a 109 in the Militärhistorisches Museum Flugplatz in Berlin



And another in the Technik Museum in Speyer



Is it me or does the BF-109 look like it has really poor rear visibility?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Wait does some unlucky sap at the airport have to run over to slap a lead cover on it every time they reach the gate? I mean, technically if your exposure time is short it's not a big deal but you're gonna service multiple aircraft a day...

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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That engine comes awfully close to scraping the ground there. How sturdily are they attached anyway? Would there have been fan shrapnel spraying everywhere or just an engine falling off if it made solid contact with the runway?

e: nm just saw a video of an 767 doing a belly landing and that's not a problem

Eej fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 29, 2014

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I got a quick helicopter question. Are there any advantages to regular tail rotors over fantails or coaxial rotors? Or is it just a matter of :10bux: and less complexity?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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food-rf posted:

AoA usually comes from AoA probes, which are just vanes and are pretty foolproof except for icing, which is why they are heated:


Pressure-based sensors also exist and have the same potential problems as all barometric instruments (ports can get clogged or freeze).

Speaking of stalls in general, a change to the airfoil can cause stalls even below the normal critical AoA. Icing is the usual culprit here.

PS: Airbus specifically offers AoA indicators as optional instruments, but they don't seem to be that widely used (Airbus people correct me?).

They're like little baby wings that will grow up into big ones someday :3:

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Slo-Tek posted:

Works, sorta.
Though if you are going to unload the prop at speed, why not just lock it in place, and fly it like a bad airplane with goofy wings on top....which is also something people have worked on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-72

I really want to see something like this go mach 1 and I don't know why.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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priznat posted:

Really? Every year in BC we get idiot skiers/boarders going out of bounds and getting lost and having to be found by helicopter and every year the media is all "Should idiots pay for their rescue?" And the answer is always no because then they wouldn't call for help, being idiots and all.

There was just one who was lost in Whistler for 3 days who said "yeah I'll go out of bounds again but next time I'll bring a friend!" Once she was found and put on the news to be "shamed" but they found she has none, apparently.

To be fair the exact wording was

quote:

"It's stupid to do what I do," said Abrahamsen. "I'm just too enthusiastic when the powder is there on the mountain, I guess. Forgive me for that."

The 21-year-old from Norway says she "learned a really good lesson," and wouldn't enter the backcountry without proper equipment and at least two other people who know the terrain.

And I'm sure that the Norwegian government is gonna cough up money to pay for the medevac if only to save face.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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So basically like a regular harpoon cannons except everyone has to hide from the backblast.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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It's so you can do totally kicking rad things like burn things!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzKhqa_HhE

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

stop talking about lasers, you loving nerds

plane laserer spotted

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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iyaayas01 posted:

Hahahahahaha

For the record the quad-rail launchers (like you see mounted on Apaches) are something that GA regularly portrays the Reaper carrying in promotional drawings and poo poo, despite the fact that they would never actually be a thing on a real airframe for a whole bunch of reasons.

Do the reasons include "would look way too cool in real life"?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I love the overlay of the American flag.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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SybilVimes posted:

No america, you come up with your own innovations for a change!



I kinda want that in Ace Combat now.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I wonder what the radar return of blue and gold paint would be on a F-22.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Did the original DC-8 engines really look like they were meant to propel a spaceship?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Obviously the solution to all this rotor-caused self destruction is to just switch to twin ducted fans like those cool gunships in Avatar. Sure you lose the ability to auto rotate but you also look way cooler.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I always find it weird that the Ka-50 which is a relatively tamer co-axial rotor system has more problems with rotors smacking each other than the K-Max.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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I wonder what it would've felt like to be the guy who opens a letter and reads "Comrade, you have been selected to be the test pilot of the first manned Ka-50 ejection seat tests."

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Mazz posted:

Great post for a pictures thread but couple things to sperg on as befitting the thread:

- I don't think any of the Hs still have the M61s in them anymore, probably due to effective range issues. Neither the U or the Js ever had them.
- They are dropping the 40mm in favor of a 30mm in the Js because IIRC they have regular ammo issues as it's not ubiquitous anymore.
- The AWACS doesn't do SIGINT, the various RC-135s or EC-130s handle that.
- Not sure the current AC-130s have much more in the way of intelligence then a couple FLIR balls and the appropriate radios. The 130Ws might.
- The upcoming 130J is adding a side mounted radar alongside wing pylons for small diameter bombs, plus a ramp based griffin/viper strike system. The J is a whole lot more dangerous then the Hs or Us.

Out of curiousity what is the protocol for when they run out of letters to designate variants?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Here's to hoping the F-14A comes with the original TF30s so you can get the real life or death experience of flying a F-14.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

That's the point - they're modeling the A, A+, and B models. So yeah, on the highest settings you'll likely get to experience the P&Ws in all of their infamous glory. And when you finally can't take it anymore with the A, you can option into an A+ and/or B.

I'm hoping someone puts a mod in for a flipboard that says "DAYS SINCE LAST COMPRESSOR STALL: __"

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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MohawkSatan posted:

ya'll might have started with classics, but I started with the best

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane%27s_F/A-18

Super Hornet for life :colbert:

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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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A-10 Cuba! posted:

It features an A-10 Thunderbolt II on a mission to defeat guerrilla forces at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. As in most war flight simulator games, the main objectives contain defending an airbase, destroying ships, bridges, tanks or buildings and escorting other aircraft.

:stare:

I feel like Ace Combat games have easier suspension of disbelief.

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