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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Also if you were wondering what the heck the plane was in that one Soundgarden video... that.

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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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ab0z posted:

I think cold war soviet union existed just to invent things for the upcoming Command and Conquer game series.

It's like they picked up building Weird poo poo right where the Nazis left off.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Holy poo poo, it's a murder!

(I know that's supposed to be for crows but there's nothing good for blackbirds)

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Plane question, and something I've wondered about for years: What dictates cockpit placement in fighters? Should the pilot be placed on the roll centerline of the craft? Because it seems like most fighters stick them above, for what I'm guessing is better visibility.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Postin' a link to Dos Gringos, a band composed of a couple of F-16 pilots. poo poo's hilarious.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Tetraptous posted:

Granted, the XB-70 was a nuclear bomber (or at least, was supposed to be), went Mach 3, and had a vaugely F-15ish twin vertical - certainly not a Navy plane, but maybe that's where the confusion comes from?

The XB-70 at Wright-Patt is really something to behold, and it's hard to conceive of it's shear size without seeing it in person. A much more impressive aircraft, IMO, than the A-12/SR-71. I recommend the museum there heartily, the XB-70 alone is worth the trip but they have tons of other great stuff too.

Click here for the full 1348x1092 image.


I just realized, there are villages smaller than this plane.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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ApathyGifted posted:

They did.

God drat, it just jumps into the air on takeoff. Cat? Who needs a cat? Just sail into the wind, won't even need the engines.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Saab Goodness

Yay Saabs! I like 'em and I'm not even Swedish. I guess it's because in my mind that's what we should have been putting out, planes that are fairly inexpensive, rugged, and suited for a northern climate.

Also I don't know how they did it but the Draken manages to combine the plainest fuselage with the sexiest planform imaginable. Seriously from the side it's basically a tube with a rudder and then get any sort of angle so that the wings are visible and suddenly it looks like something out of a goddamn top-down shooter.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Muffinpox posted:

2 huge targets under wings aren't very good for survivability when someone is actively gunning for you.

Line the wings and fuselage with hundreds of go-kart pulsejets

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Minto Took posted:

They've been flying CAP over shuttle launches for a long time. More to keep other aircraft from being damaged by the blast, ramming into the shuttle pre-launch, or magically getting hit by the shuttle as it ascends into orbit.

Plus they can shoot it down if sleeper agents have infiltrated NASA and are planning to fly the shuttle into the Florida State Capitol Building

One twitch off the prescribed flight plan and they're spamming amraams

spamraams

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Ola posted:

Hahaha that's amazing. If you search for "mach loop" on airliners.net you will be treated to a huge amount of action shots like these, a few of them shows the crew waving to the photographers (who are there almost all the time).

A funny one was a C-130 banked at 45 degrees, seriously low level and the right seater was eating an apple.

"Machynlleth Loop" gets the most results (and holy cow, these are fantastic)

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Previa_fun posted:

I don't see how the Phantom got the nick name "Double Ugly" when all I see is a beautiful aircraft. :colbert:

I always like Eisenschwein.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Well, we did just announce we were buying $9 billion worth of F-35s... gotta start clearing out the old inventory!

(I'm goin' to hell)

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Sterndotstern posted:

it's hilariously obsolete .50-cal tail turret.

Do they still arm that thing?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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blugu64 posted:

That and the cricket pitch in the last photo. Is that what you guys call it? I've tried for years to figure out that sport, but no amount of beer and foreigners explaining it to me has ever worked.

edit: Canadians don't play cricket do they?

Are- are you kidding? There's hockey.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

galliumscan posted:

Just a little bit short of computational horsepower required:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBsJwapanWI&feature=player_embedded

These just get more and more terrifying. It's bad enough that one of them sounds like a swarm of flies all on its own. Then we found out they could flip themselves through a moving window like a goddamn flying Wallenda. Now they can gang up on you and pick you up by your head?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Itzena posted:

So now the RAF Museum want to raise it and are hoping to put in on display as the only surviving Do 17.

That's not "surviving", that's raised from the dead! Hopefully they park it next to a DeHavilland Vampire.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Ola posted:

That game was impossible. Its like you're the bookie who has to eat all the odds NASA beat.

I guess they patched it in a later release to turn the difficulty down.

Also someone recently LP'ed a 2-player game against goons following the thread, wherein the goons won and only lost a couple of dudes on the way.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
I'm not convinced that having your roof be an actual airfoil is a good thing.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Cygni posted:

Love those Fullbacks so much.
Just don't do any negative-g maneuvers while Grigor's on the pot or fixing a bowl of shchi.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Phanatic posted:

Please tell me it's just turning, not radiating.

I'd go the other direction either way, I'd be worried that someone might accidentally hit the 'zorch!' button.

So is "zorch" the official term for "fry poo poo with a radar" or what, cause I thought it was pretty funny the first time I came across that usage (I think it was in a Tom Clancy novel referring to an AEGIS cruiser. Red Storm Rising maybe?)

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Lightbulb Out posted:

To be fair though, Chuck Yeager is a dick.

What's the story on Chuck Yeager?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Captain Postal posted:

When the pilots were on training missions / goofing off, they'd arrange to fly over their parents' farms at a few hundred feet with the super radar turned up to 11 and pointed directly at the ground to toast any rabbits that were eating crops, even if they were in underground burrows. I really do hope that's true.

Man, that woulda made Watership Down even more hosed up for kids watching.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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dayman posted:

Oddly, it wasn't well liked among allied pilots (they tended to like mg equipped planes with plenty of ammo), but the Russians loved it, ordered a ton.

Last time the P-39 came up wasn't there some discussion about how it kind of sucked for all the high-altitude escort missions the western allies were running, but the eastern front was basically the perfect theater for it?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Godholio posted:

Not with that style of laser. In a few years they'll be able to do more with much smaller, less power-intensive and less dangerous solid state lasers, which won't require a loving 747 to carry and power it, or the ridiculously toxic chemicals.

Man, I just think YAL-1 was hilarious. It's a 747 with a 20-shot laser cannon in a nose turret. Like something straight out of Ace Combat, on the face of it.

fe: reading the wikipedia article. "Laser fuel". God that's awesome.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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joat mon posted:

and XP-55.


Weren't the Japanese working on something a lot like this towards the end of the war?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Bugsmasher posted:

Calgary area aviation goons: the Antonov 225 will be arriving on Sunday, March 11th at 1215, and departing at 1815 that evening.

I've never seen this plane before, will be there with my camera waiting!

No poo poo. I'll have to let me da know.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

grover posted:

Until a few weeks ago, it was the lightest substance on earth

Well, that's a hell of a hook. What is it now?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

grover posted:

Nickel microlattice.


It's pretty cool stuff. They make it by building a polymer lattice using rapid prototyping techniques, coat it all with a super-thin layer of nickle, and then dissolve all the polymer.

Ok, that is really, really cool. And legit pretty to look at, as well. It's like frozen science.

E: Aeronautical Insanity: PYF Metamaterials and yap about light poo poo

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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iyaayas01 posted:



That's the paint scheme they demoed the PAK FA in, yeah?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Advent Horizon posted:

I'm curious how much that's going to screw with ground crews. Some of the jetways probably won't move vertically without a fight.

Would it be possible to build kneeling gear? It's not like that lumpy nacelle is dragging on the ground.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Colonial Air Force posted:

Boeing video on the 737MAX: http://www.boeing.com/newairplane//737max/video/

Interesting winglet design, sort of a mix of their traditional design and Airbus'.



Reminds me of a kid running around with his arms out going "nyeeeaaaaarrooowwwm"

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Boomerjinks posted:

edit: just came across this and my brain is thoroughly wrinkled.


It's an Iranian fighter jet. That was developed from the F-5. With twin tails. And a blue and yellow paint job.

Jesus Christ it's a cargo-cult Hornet!

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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InitialDave posted:

Look what Lego have just done:



The stick in the cockpit actually moves the ailerons and elevators via the cables you can see looping over the roundels and attached to the top of said elevators. Not the rudder though. Tommy don't get no rudder.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Bugsmasher posted:

Pretty much what I was thinking this morning when I read this.

The Arrow has gone beyond mythical proportions here in Canada if people honestly think this idea could work.

But see it's over 50 years later and we're still having to bounce Bears, so a heavy daylight interceptor from back then makes perfect sense!

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
That only works if the cat (or sandwich) is falling, which IMO makes it a risky proposition for avionics.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

front wing flexing posted:

That is awesome.

http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/11/tsa-ford-engine-blocks-okay-for-carry-ons/

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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slidebite posted:

Thank god.

$5 says we end up with superbugs but lust for the Silent Eagle.

Comedy option: Gripens.

Geizkragen posted:

I can't wait for 30 years down the road when people are publishing project management case studies about why you can't design a plane that can only exist in Ace Combat.

I'm all for abandoning all current programs and developing an airframe that its nose opens up and lasers pour out.

e: VVV I keep forgetting about that!

Phy fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 14, 2012

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Minto Took posted:

The only fighter metric that matters.

That can't be true, because if it was, everyone'd be bitching about all the problems and cost overruns on the F-23.

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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



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Sagebrush posted:

I had no clue that you could get a working MiG-21 for so little.

http://www.aerotrader.com/listing/1967-Mig-21U-102734641

I mean yeah, you're going to be burning up about $5000 an hour in fuel and god knows what kind of maintenance, and I imagine keeping up whatever batshit certification it requires is a huge pain, but for less than half the price of a new Ferrari you can have a real goddamn mach 2 Soviet fighter jet. Some day... :allears:

Oh, god, I love that ad just for the automotivisms. Priced to sell! Always hangared.

e: "Knowledgeable pilots have selected it over the F-16 or Mig 29 for the pure pleasure of flying."

Well, poo poo, that's because you still have to join a military for those, chief!

Phy fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jan 12, 2013

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