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Rinkles posted:

How credible is this article?

Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China’s Stealth Fighter

I don't know the reputation of the site; it was featured on Real Clear Defense.

If only we were that lucky

# ¿ Mar 13, 2014 22:53

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 16:18

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benito posted:

Slate has a map showing the 634 airports where the plane could have landed (assuming that it didn't land on a highway or on an improvised runway).

Slate also floated the possibility a few days ago of the hijackers and/or whoever is receiving the plane intends to break it up and sell the parts on the black market. The problem, of course, is everything's got a serial number, but if money was the motive it would be a lot easier than selling an entire plane that you can't land anywhere useful.

That seems to be a lot of effort to chop up a plane, why not try to get an empty one? Why grab one that has passengers, seems more headache than it is worth.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2014 14:02

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YF19pilot posted:

Man, how the hell did I miss that thing flying around? Oh, right, Massillon...

There was an osprey in the landing pattern at CAK not too long ago. Flew over me on Frank ave. I want to say a month ago.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2014 00:34

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Boomer The Cannon posted:

Holy gently caress, how many CAK/Tusc County goons are there? There's a bunch of us here, plus 2-3 others in the NASCAR SAS thread...

Check out TFF, most of the Browns posters are localish.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2014 01:14

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Godholio posted:

That wing wasn't shot off, he had a midair with a wingman. The other aircraft was destroyed, but I can't remember if the pilot ejected or not. I think it was an A-4?

Didn't Boeing/McDonald-Douglas not believe the Israeli story.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2014 03:10

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Geoj posted:

I live about a mile away from Akron Fulton (6,000+' runway but 99% of the traffic is private aviation) and depending on wind direction aircraft on final approach to Akron-Canton regional (I'm about 15 miles north of the airport, they have 30-40 scheduled flights per day) pass pretty much directly over my house. Aside from notable aircraft landing at Akron-Fulton (CAF had a mini airshow there last summer and there was an Osprey doing touch & goes there for a few hours two weeks ago) I don't really notice the private aviation, and most of the traffic headed for CAK is low enough to make noise if you're outside but otherwise not really noticeable while inside.

e: I also have Goodyear's Ohio airship operations hangar about six miles due east so I also get blimp flyovers when there's a game in Cleveland or they just feel like tooling around Akron. Those are way more noticeable than traffic from either airport.

I think unless you live a mile or so away from a really busy commercial airport or military airfield you aren't going to notice it unless you want to.

If you hear anything about any sort of air shows out of CAK please post it in this thread. I didn't know the CAF came around last year.

# ¿ Apr 18, 2014 11:32

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two_beer_bishes posted:

I just read this a few weeks ago and I really enjoyed it too.

I liked the part when Charlotte ATC tried to get him to shoot down SF choppers after 9/11.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 04:17

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Dead Reckoning posted:

They should have asked an F-15 pilot instead.

So I Googled F15 fratricide and :stare:

# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 06:44

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Davin Valkri posted:

Are there any defenses against radar guided missiles that could conceivably be installed on airliners? Or are we going to have to wait until those LAIRCM things get upgraded with hard-kill lasers or something?

Imagine I just linked a scene from the hit movie Air Force One :colbert:

my cursory search of youtube wasn't finding it

# ¿ Jul 19, 2014 01:58

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hobbesmaster posted:

So your defenses against radar missiles are to either make it lose the radar lock/never lock in the first place, blow up the missile or out maneuver it. Since we're talking airliners maneuvering is out. Blow up the missile is crazy grover laser land. To cause a radar to lose lock you can put out chaff or ECM which would cause a bunch of noise. Or you could make it harder for the radar to lock onto you in the first place with stealth. Unfortunately airliners will have transponders running so ATC can direct them which kinda makes stealth or ECM or whatever useless as the missile could just track the transponder until its close.

Clearly then the only solution is to blow up the missile before it launches. To this end all international airliners will need to be fitted with a radar warning receiver, HARM Targeting System and a pair of AGM-88s.

After reading viper pilot I get the impression the AGM-88 kinda sucks. So what Airliners need is an escort of F-16CJ's

# ¿ Jul 19, 2014 02:02

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Jonny Nox posted:

Was debt of honor where they laser pointered the pilot's eyes as they were coming in for a landing?

They used a flashlight.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2014 00:51

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

It's the most important time of the year for the RAF, the 2014 photograph competition! http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/raf-photographic-competition-2014-01082014

Clearly the dog one wins, it looks so happy

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 13:52

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holocaust bloopers posted:

In the Army's defense, they do have some really sharp dress uniforms.

Really, you went there?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 21:19

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Delivery McGee posted:

Pretty sure it's revet, which is the actual medieval term for such things.

Also, you missed "Big Fat Fucker", presumably a B-52.

Fun fact: the B-52 originally had a quad .50 mount in the tail, and a guy back there to operate it; the G-model had the tail gunner up front with an ejection seat and remote-controlled turret; the B-52H had a 20mm Vulcan instead of the .50s, and they removed the tail guns in the '90s.

Didn't they remove the tail guns because of the "In Harm's Way" incident?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 12:08

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FrozenVent posted:

If you have a dirt strip in the middle of nowhere and someone emergency lands a plane that can't take off, being able to load the thing into a truck and go is pretty convenient, I guess.

What if you emergency land inside of crashed airplane?

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 20:55

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Godholio posted:

Like a C-141 parked at the end of the runway with the back door open?

I was referring to a Pilatus PC-6C Turbo-Porter fitting inside of a crashed C-123

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 21:11

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CharlesM posted:

Yeah just typing in those planes got me this pagehttp://impdb.org/index.php?title=Air_America

I did it in reverse to remember which planes it was from the scene. IMPDB is cool, they have one for cars, and guns too.

Been trying to find the scene on Youtube but my youtubefu is failing me.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 22:22

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No one cares, but I'm about to leave to go watch the Cleveland Air Show.

It'll be my first time seeing the Blue Angels.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 13:06

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YF19pilot posted:

Have fun. It's nice to have them back. I tried to convince my folks to go, but there's all this "family" "stuff" they want to do before I leave for Taiwan.

I want them to break windows on Euclid ave again.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 14:06

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YF19pilot posted:

Yes, but Douglas and Grumman were building Navy fighters before the Navy got funny like that.

e: that is to say, all the famous WWII Navy birds were Douglas and Grumman for the most part, so "legacy".

Vought

# ¿ Sep 3, 2014 02:22

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Rent-A-Cop posted:

Watching old episodes of Mayday and I just got to the one on TACA Flight 110. Possibly one of the ballerest captains ever deadsticks a 737-300 onto a grass levee in the middle of a thunder storm in a landing so good that the aircraft was flown out again after the engines were repaired.

Also he had one eye because some South American rebels shot out the other one.

There are some truly impressive feats out there. I like the gimle glider. Captain is a recreational glider pilot so ends up slipping a 767 like a glider.

# ¿ Sep 3, 2014 12:30

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Frinkahedron posted:

Of the hundreds of times I've driven by one of those "Speed enforced by aircraft" signs on I-81 in Virginia, I have not once seen an Apache hiding in the pullout lane between the north and southbound lanes

(True story: I once met a guy who did get pulled over "by aircraft". Cops had a Cessna or some such and radioed down to a squad car on the ground.)

I got a ticket that way on I-77 in between Canton and Akron in Ohio.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 15:16

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YF19pilot posted:

drat, didn't realize they were doing that here.

Otherwise, I know Fantasy of Flight near Orlando likes to boast about how when they fly their Piper L-4J they cause people to slow down on the interstate (and have gotten a few complaints about it, apparently).

The stateys do it all over, there are white marks on the highway that go perpendicular on straight stretches and the pilot does the stopwatch thing. Then radios it in to the troopers that are just sitting there.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 16:19

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YF19pilot posted:

Oh, I know OHP does that, I've seen the lines on the roads and what not, I just didn't realize they were patrolling that section of 77 specifically.

I got nabbed in 07, and I commute that way everyday and have only seen it again a handful of times.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 18:47

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IIRC only the most long range of their artillery pieces have the range to hit the outskirts of Seoul. The myth of them flattening Seoul with conventional artillery is just that, a myth. This subject gets brought up from time to time in Goons in Platoons and the artillery myth usually gets laughed down nearly immediately.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2014 11:27

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Tevery Best posted:

Devastation class? Man, I thought only the Galactic Empire got to have names like that. That is the single best battleship name.

Pretty sure the Galactic Empire just ripped the names of their ships from the Royal Navy.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2014 11:38

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Linedance posted:

I hope they have the foresight to ban having Cleveland Browns games on in the background. If they're losing bad, the colour commentary could cause some unfortunate incidents...

Like Cleveland will get more than one National game a year.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2014 02:27

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YF19pilot posted:

I thought they played two games against the Steelers in a regular season

Might have a third this year.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2014 03:13

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Inacio posted:

I bet this picture has a great story behind it

Israeli F-15 collides with an A-4, pilot applies more power and basically the F-15 ' s fuselage generates enough lift to keep the aircraft airborne.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 12:51

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YF19pilot posted:

Like Plinkey said, that's a bit of a drive. If you do NYC -> Dayton, you'll be going along I-80 across Pennsylvania, where there isn't really a whole lot to see; then switch to I-76 in Youngstown, where you don't want to stop at after dark, or even during the day some times; through Akron, which maybe you could swing by the Goodyear blimp hanger and take a few shots; then really not much else that is along the route; I-76 to I-71, I-71 to Columbus, then pick up I-70 to Dayton. If you go off a bit, there is Amish country around in both states; though I'm only really familiar with the Amish country in OH. There's an air museum at CAK, but I haven't been to it, I've heard it's relatively small, but I also heard they have a few restoration projects going on that might be interesting.

You can sit in a mig 17 and work the controls at the museum at CAK, it's pretty neat even if it is small.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 12:40

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Geoj posted:

I'm going to have to go check that out, I live 15 minutes away from there. Do they have anything else noteworthy?

There is a nice F-14, part of a goodyear blimp gondola, an AA gun station that you can work the hand crank and pedals on. There was a bunch of poo poo in there, it wasn't particularly special but since I live just across the highway from it I finally visited it. There is a cut up B-25 there too I think.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 23:02

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Midjack posted:

When did people start calling the Falcon the Viper? I get that it's not cool to name your manned airplanes after birds at the moment, but it's not like Falcon was a horrid name.

Umm in the early 80's.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 01:08

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This.

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Or a pilot grabbing a shell out of the armory before going flying so he can come back with a badass story.

Or this.

Linedance posted:

I prefer to believe the airplane probably got hit by the shell, which wedged between the pilot's legs. After making GBS threads himself (blame the Castor oil), he landed very gently, and handed it to the wide-eyed ground crew. When asked where he got it, he replies "why, I plucked it straight out of the air, old chap!", and shuffles off to the debriefing room to pass out.

Still an awesome story though

# ¿ Mar 15, 2015 12:01

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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They probably felt a sinking feeling too.

Well that stopped suddenly.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2015 00:41

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CroatianAlzheimers posted:

The GiP Cold War Airpower thread is pretty good. Or it was.

It's TFR not GIP.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2015 02:27

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CommieGIR posted:

The approach lights and all the other avionics related stuff is has battery and generator backups.

I mean, my point being is they should have been aware they were coming in too low as they should've been doing the approach based on the glideslope from the ILS.

Unless Die Hard 2 was simply a prediction of things to come and the glideslope was being controlled by evil German terrorists!

Die Hard 2 had an American terrorist :colbert:

# ¿ Mar 29, 2015 19:12

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Don't wanna make this 'a thing,' but:

I thought there was a USGS report that stated Afghanistan had a stupid amount of lithium.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 13:23

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Gibfender posted:

From a Guardian article about failed large-scale projects in London:

Why yes those are runways that all intersect in the middle

Yeah, that design wouldn't have survived 1940.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 11:47

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freelop posted:

The Soviet Fire Hedgehog

A TU2 bomber loaded with 88 machine guns in order to strafe infantry soldiers.

88 SUB-machine guns, not particularly effective.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 11:47

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 16:18

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Godholio posted:

Can't use the heater on a plane. We got MREs for a few days when the chow hall was shut down for some reason.

Who uses the heater?

# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 12:35

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