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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Epic Fail Guy posted:

Low-bypass turbofans look so strange today.


Spantax, now that's a name for an airline. It reads as a combination of feminine products, although I guess they were going for Spanish Taxi.

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

BSAKat posted:

Also, I just found out from someone at the museum that it's pretty much impossible to get inside the fence for some personal time with those static display aircraft anymore.

What's up with that? Or rather, what kind of museum is that?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Slo-Tek posted:

I do like how the US just litters their high-tech advantages away.
Really, isn't this unavoidable if you are flying over enemy territory?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

If we can check the drone color using Google, so can Iran.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Lightbulb Out posted:

My family does some volunteer photography work, which has involved us interacting with him on a number of occasions, and in general he has always just been just kind of a dick to everyone. A bit of a misogynist.
I just assumed he was dead. But he's 88, which seems about right. And that's generally "I don't give a gently caress what people think of me" age.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

I kinda think that if the TSA or such bothers you that much, you probably should just mellow out a bit instead of raging. But maybe I've just moved on from getting angry at things you can't control and letting them ruin your trip.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

iTunes has a trailer up for an IMAX movie filmed at the Reno air race. That seems a bit awkward, big elephant in the room.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

I'm pretty sure Intrepid has a space exhibit?

Practically it's going to the Intrepid because it's the aerospace museum in NYC not because of the Intrepid.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Ridge_Runner_5 posted:

Didn't NASA require that whoever gets the shuttles stores them indoors at all times? How is the Intrepid going to deal with that?
The California Science Center also doesn't have their shuttle space built yet.

OTOH, it makes sense they would only need a plan at bid time, rather than a finished build.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Was the Enterprise decision made by NASA or the Smithsonian?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

slidebite posted:

CNN has video of that 727 crash from a mile or so away
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2012/05/01/nr-discovery-plane-crash.cnn
It's from this Youtube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mtM8R7KWyY

Google Translated:

quote:

this aircraft was dropped by remote control for study purposes in safety. PLACE ..... ........... km. Highway 86 Mexicali to San Felipe ... arriving at km. 86 went down the road .. / .. and we drive 5 km. farther west in the desert of the SALT / site where they made ​​the "mock" real fall of an airplane with a capacity of 200 persons / Well, it was drill, a drill that is only a simulation, here the plane broke into several pieces, everything was royal scrivener. / the pilots piloting the plane left the airport to the site of a parachute landing threw the 4 drivers, and after tossing the plane was headed to the place by remote control .. . / .. Intentionally crashed the plane to get information on the incident and to see how to improve security measures ... clear it all paid for NAT GEO AND DISCOVERY first in coordination .. / ... this was on April 27, 2012 ..

smackfu fucked around with this message at 20:09 on May 2, 2012

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

InitialDave posted:

They should have just sucked it up and accepted they made a bad decision. I genuinely view having the "lifetime ticket" fliers as being a positive PR thing for them, especially given that they "fixed" the pricing issue.

The part I don't understand is that the contract says AA could have just terminated it and refunded the pro-rated purchase price based on a duration of 200 months (section 18C):
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/353874-vroom-aairpass-contract.html

That seems like it would have been far cheaper way out of these things.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Amsterdam Schiphol is pretty annoying because a lot of the flights use the newest Polderbaan runway which is like 4 miles from the terminal. So if you connect through there it's like 40 minutes longer than through another airport.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Helado posted:

Detroit is my current favorite when I have to connect. The layout aside from the somewhat nonsensical gate ordering in some places is pretty straight forward and getting from one terminal to another is efficient. I wouldn't necessarily want to be stuck there for a long layover, but it's good for getting you in and out.

Is that the one with the internal monorail, that never seems like the fastest option?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

EnergizerFellow posted:

Which is why I'm mildly surprised somebody hasn't taken a crack at full-on reproductions of a Mustang/Bearcat/Spitfire. There's got to be enough rich guys and airshow circuits to make it viable.
Aren't actual rich guys the ones doing the Mustang restorations already?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Hard to believe that airlines like Pan Am and Eastern just died, instead of being taken over. Guess it was different times.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Polymerized Cum posted:

I need a list of Kerry, Gore and GWB's planes to prove this hypothesis correct.
Bush-Cheney had a 757: http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-Airlines/Boeing-757-28A/0110744/&sid=38a773a14cab588343a12d0c843206c0
Kerry-Edwards had a 757-200: http://www.airliners.net/photo/TransMeridian-Airlines-Kerry-Edwards/Boeing-757-236/0694291/&sid=8b080db2657cb4ceccf958f636df7f97
Dole 96 had a 727-200: pic
Gore-Lieberman was a DC-9 with Spirit logo for some reason: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Spirit-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-9-31/1122485/M/

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

I think all of the US is more than a 12 hour flight from Dubai.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Honestly I would put most IFE issues on crappy software rather than the hardware. Is the software sourced by the carriers or do Boeing / Airbus do it to order?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Eh, that whole thing isn't very convincing either. I've seen plenty of business travelers asleep before take off. Not to mention all the people who take sleeping pills on long flights. Attendants just have to deal with that and it's way more out of it than someone on a laptop.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

My god, how much do machinists make nowadays?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Are they covered in grease or some other kind of mothballing?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Classy, CNN:



So, I guess not?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

ctishman posted:

As for the logotype, they COULD, but their ad agency would want a full face if not a family for use in ads, and rather than going to a foundry like they're Apple or something, I'll bet they just flipped through one of the zillion Helvetica ripoffs until they found one with precisely the features they wanted.
For your main logo design, the font is usually tweaked to hell. Once the designer has the curves in Illustrator, they can treat it just like any other shape.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

From before things needed to be wheelchair accessible.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

drat, that's a pretty big temporary hangar.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

iyaayas01 posted:

Doubt it. Herks can take off from a carrier too, really not all that much to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-poc38C84
Best part of this is that of course the Navy would only let their own pilots fly the things, even though they had no prior time in the thing. (If the narration is to be believed.)

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

OptimusMatrix posted:

Here's that Dayton crash from two different vantages.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5e5_1371922689

Yeah, this is not abstract plane crash video, it's low and close. I would advise skipping it.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

More info:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_strip

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

The story of the BA 777 pilot is
confusing. Like he was suspended,
then took a voluntary layoff, then wrote a book critical of BA, then... was rehired?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

holocaust bloopers posted:

A lot of luck also helped out immensely here as well.

That's not exactly reassuring? I mean, triumph of engineering or not, if the plane had rolled all the way over, there'd be a lot of dead people.

I just wouldn't use this particular incident to argue how safe airline travel is. Except in the sense that "even if the crew is terrible, you are still probably ok."

smackfu fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 8, 2013

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Do they ever really close airports because of noise complaints? Closest I've seen is buying up people's houses instead.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Illuminati by Nature posted:

Apologies if a respost


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/07/newport-beach-john-wayne-airport-takeoff

Is the takeoff really that steep from there already?

Wow, they have been fighting the jets since 1968 and the 737 at that airport:
http://www.ocair.com/communityrelations/faq-noise.aspx

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

That plane that crashed in Connecticut was pretty big for a private plane. What's that seat, seven or so? I think the death toll so far is just that they know there were two in the house and at least one pilot.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

I'm still amazed they could take these supersonic planes from design to a flying prototype with the tech of the day. Considering how hard it is to do the same thing nowadays. Computers: friend or foe?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Besides other reasons, do you really want to be the only guy on the plane NOT wearing a parachute?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Worst thing about 14 hour flights is that you get sick of watching movies, and the IFE usually don't have full seasons of TV shows. But not many ways to get to Australia from NYC without a long flight or two.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Aer Lingus also flies to a lot of places cheaply and isn't terrible. It's a pretty good hub if you aren't sure of where you'll end up going in Europe, since you can almost certainly fly back to Dublin.

Of course, the key point there is that the flights to Dublin from NYC are already cheap,

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

New footage of Asiana crash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNfDUTGOEj0

Even more amazing that it didn't kill a lot more people. Although after watching the video a lot, I guess it was almost like a flat spin on the ground, rather than the flip it originally looks like.


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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Wow, Singapore has an Air Force? It's a pretty small place.

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