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free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009



Glare Seethe posted:

Speaking only of what I've checked out on youtube, the Tull ones are kind of inconsistent. Some of it sounds good ("Songs from the Wood" as posted above is fine, for instance) but a lot sounds extremely weird to my ears. In many cases I feel like the instruments do sound cleaner, but that the individual clarity comes at the expense of cohesion.

A good example of this is "Kelpie", which is a bonus track off Stormwatch and one of my favorite JT songs.

Here's the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyR7pdLDz_g

And here's the remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1rcaL0fpio

To my ears, the remix completely and entirely sucks the life out of the song. It comes across incredibly stilted. It's almost sad to hear such a fun and energetic song sounding so lifeless.

Not everything is quite this bad, but yeah. My favorite JT album is Heavy Horses and I think it came out mostly unscathed but I still prefer the original remix. On that one I feel like the bass got unfairly nerfed, particularly on the title track but also elsewhere. Ultimately I didn't spend any money on these anyway and the originals are still available on youtube and for purchase (I think?) so it's all good.

Heavy Horses is probably my favorite tull album too. Journeyman/Rover/One Brown Mouse is probably one of my favorite three track throughs of any album ever

i had no idea steven wilson was remastering Tull until I just looked at this thread, I am a huge fan of his but much like with his work on the yes remasters it seems kind of hit or miss

dun ringill is the best song on stormwatch tho and i really like the remix a lot

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Glare Seethe
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.


free hubcaps posted:

dun ringill is the best song on stormwatch tho and i really like the remix a lot

It probably is but I have a real soft spot for North Sea Oil even though there's ostensibly nothing particularly remarkable about it.

And yeah HH is just an amazing album. Journeyman specifically is massively underrated, I feel like nobody ever talks about that song and it's outrageously good. And Acres Wild is straight-up my all-time favorite JT song.

I read somewhere that Ian doesn't like his vocals on the record cause he had a cold while recording, but that added raspiness just makes it better imo.

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009



i fell like big black's "Songs about loving" would make a good alternate title for Songs from the Wood.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

Sarcastic Bastard

Pillbug

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again




Asnorban
Jun 13, 2003

Professor Gavelsmoke





This is so good.

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST

So looks like the whole Cardiacs back catalogue just went live on (nearly) every streaming service going.

Kind-of feeling mixed on this as independent bands make poo poo money from Spotify(and it can kill off album sales in some cases), but the trade-off is more people will actually get to hear this stuff.

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/cardiacs-discography-is-finally-on-streaming-services/

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWP4JLUxiqY

New Liquid Tension Experiment is pretty sick

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007


Inspired by news of a new live album by DT, I went ahead and gave it a listen. Newer stuff is not great. Scalding hot take, I know. Scenes however is still really fun to listen to and has well written songs. I could just be old and out of touch?

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



Kazinsal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWP4JLUxiqY

New Liquid Tension Experiment is pretty sick

Tasty.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Kazinsal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWP4JLUxiqY

New Liquid Tension Experiment is pretty sick

Very nice.

Astrochicken posted:

Inspired by news of a new live album by DT, I went ahead and gave it a listen. Newer stuff is not great. Scalding hot take, I know. Scenes however is still really fun to listen to and has well written songs. I could just be old and out of touch?

I haven't listened to any new DT since, Octavarium? But SFAM totally owns and I'm unironically glad we have 2 full live recordings of it.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


I'm digging that LTE track. Newer Dream Theater (2010 to present) has a few bangers, but most of the songs are just way too plodding and the bad kind of noodly IMO.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007



Astrochicken posted:

Inspired by news of a new live album by DT, I went ahead and gave it a listen. Newer stuff is not great. Scalding hot take, I know. Scenes however is still really fun to listen to and has well written songs. I could just be old and out of touch?

Distance Over Time and A Dramatic Turn of Events are both pretty good. The s/t isn't great and The Astonishing is just bad

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011






deadwing posted:

Distance Over Time and A Dramatic Turn of Events are both pretty good. The s/t isn't great and The Astonishing is just bad

Yeah, my thoughts as well. Basically when you give Petrucci full creative control you end up with something that's at best kinda mediocre and at worst unlistenable garbage.

I've listened to The Astonishing twice and I can't remember any of it other than wondering when it was going to be over and looking at the track list to see I still had over an hour to go.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007





Kazinsal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWP4JLUxiqY

New Liquid Tension Experiment is pretty sick
Oh gosh this kinda fucks

Feels pretty weird to be excited about something DT adjacent for the first time in well over a decade

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


Just wanted to post this somewhere: I recently picked up We Can't Dance by Genesis after hearing my dad's cassette tape of it in the car a million times when I was a kid, and it strikes me as kind of funny that the song Dreaming While You Sleep is lyrically a mirror image of In The Air Tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBz6nXgef9Q

In The Air Tonight: "I saw you kill someone through inaction and you think you got away with it but I will make sure you see justice"
Dreaming While You Sleep: "I just accidentally killed someone and got away with it, and I feel bad about it but boy I sure hope I don't see justice"

just an extremely specific situation that Phil Collins wrote two songs about from different viewpoints

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



loquacius posted:

Just wanted to post this somewhere: I recently picked up We Can't Dance by Genesis after hearing my dad's cassette tape of it in the car a million times when I was a kid, and it strikes me as kind of funny that the song Dreaming While You Sleep is lyrically a mirror image of In The Air Tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBz6nXgef9Q

In The Air Tonight: "I saw you kill someone through inaction and you think you got away with it but I will make sure you see justice"
Dreaming While You Sleep: "I just accidentally killed someone and got away with it, and I feel bad about it but boy I sure hope I don't see justice"

just an extremely specific situation that Phil Collins wrote two songs about from different viewpoints

But it sounds like a track from Crest of a Knave.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


XBenedict posted:

But it sounds like a track from Crest of a Knave.

I actually hadn't heard that album before but now having listened to Farm on the Freeway there's definitely a resemblance

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004



Prog-adjacent?

Steven Wilson did the Amoeba "What's in my Bag?" thing, except with COVID it's the home edition and he just geeks out on Autechre records from his collection he really digs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbtvzJdKYTc

e: the misspelling of amoeba bothered the gently caress out of me

hatelull fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Feb 3, 2021

stratdax
Sep 14, 2006


hatelull posted:

Prog-adjacent?

Steven Wilson did the Ameoba "What's in my Bag?" thing, except with COVID it's the home edition and he just geeks out on Autechre records form his collection he really digs.

That's reminding me of.. something on the tip of my brain. I just flipped through their catalogue on spotify and nothing triggered for me though. Ahh this is going to bug me. A remix they did maybe? drat.

Also is this the thread where we talk about Devin Townsend? Because drat I love him. I've always been aware of him but just recently been working my way through his catalogue & just ordered the Order of Magnitude bundle off his site. For some reason the Devin Townsend Band albums aren't on spotify in Canada, so I gotta figure out something else there (that doesn't involve pirating).

stratdax fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Feb 3, 2021

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



An absolute loving legend left us today.

https://youtu.be/PiuMmW1Xwdc

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Truth. Guy was a genius.

Wiltsghost
Mar 27, 2011




One of my all time favorites, drat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjOYscEN6Qc

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012

Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.




Wedge Regret

gently caress. I grew up listening to Return to Forever...

Wiltsghost
Mar 27, 2011




Lol, never seen this before. Listen to the first notes that moog plays. Had to be a pain playing those analogs live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSksWyHsYw8

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.





https://youtu.be/lLMp1tb8O0k

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



They seem to be having fun

JAMOOOL
Oct 18, 2004

I LOVE TWO AND HALF MEN!! YOU 20 SOMETHINGS ARE JUST TOO CYNICAL TO UNDERSTAND IT!!

so does he like cameras now

Willeh
Jun 25, 2003

God hates a coward



It's not even the weirdest thing he's put out there, let them have their fun I guess.

Wiltsghost
Mar 27, 2011




He's enjoying himself apparently.

https://twitter.com/theQuietus/status/1362476983746236418

Kevin Palpatine
Dec 20, 2017


I still think he's been kidnapped

blink three times for help Robert!

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012

Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.




Wedge Regret

Each eye will blink in different time signatures.

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BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



He’ll blink out a 600 word essay about how a prisoner must develop a work ethic that allows him to rise above his situation, and not put off punishment until tomorrow that he can receive today.

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