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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Prog metal is absolutely my least favourite thing about the metal genre. I can see why people like it, but I just get nothing from it. But that's mostly because most prog metal bands seem to mistake "progressive" for "overly technical" which is a common mistake.

I'd rather listen to prog.rock or fusion'ish stuff personally.
There was quite a large danish prog/fusion scene in the 60s and 70s which tends to get overlooked for the very good reason that most of it didn't really see widespread release. A couple of labels are re-releasing a lot of it on CD these days though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_sLTwJGA5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STVqzhwsc0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31J6Ecv6jpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBqApV2jOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m52bmdwUL8M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7DVW8RKyLQ

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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Rollersnake posted:

Thanks for these. I'm really digging Culpeper's Orchard in particular. I love music in that proggy hard rock style.

Secret Oyster are unfortunately one of two bands I've seen live during which I've dozed off during the performance. It was an early evening set too, so they have no excuse.

I quite like Secret Oyster, but I suppose they're a bit of an acquired taste.

I almost forgot the best band though!

Ache is a symphonic prog-rock band who wrote what they called a rock ballet in 1970 and it was eventually released as the album "De Homine Urbano".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIaARS8-wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twMsZqrcrZc

If you like Hammond organs you're in for a treat.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Alexander the Grape posted:

I disagree. A lot of the prog-metal recommendations above are as far from overly-technical as you could get within the genre. And even if a band decides that they like the "technical" sound and incorporates that into their music, it isn't a mistake in my opinion. It's a stylistic choice.

Even Dream Theater - which is probably the exact band a lot of people think of when you say "overly-technical" - has a ton of music that doesn't just shred for 7-20 minutes.

Over ten minutes and the only shredding is really brief passages in the solo, which is pretty short considering the length of the song as a whole.

I guess my whole point is progressive metal isn't one-dimensional. If you don't like it, that's cool - I can't stand a lot of vocalists within the genre, myself. But the argument that being technical is bad has always bothered me.

Cool recommendations, by the way.

Maybe it's just that I've only heard the really terribly progmetal. I will freely admit that I've never really looked very hard at the progmetal scene because it never interested. Pretty much all the metal I do listen to is either the psychadelic fuzzy 70s stuff or sloppy/crusty black and death metal which is sort of the antithesis of progmetal. I don't really listen to metal for razorsharp precision and tons of shredding and solos.
It's not even that technicality is bad, it's just that some bands go too far and forget to write actual songs to go with their playing and it just becomes 10 minutes of showcasing how great they are at their instruments.

I basically looked into progmetal when Dream Theater and SymphonyX hit it big and when that wasn't interesting I just sort of skipped it.

Then again, progmetal can be a bit hard to pin down. Does Savatage count as prog metal? I've heard them mentioned as such and them I do like, probably because the Oliva brothers could write good songs. It may have helped them that they set out as a I suppose a regular heavy metal and then gradually went into the whole symphonic/progressive area.

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