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Noted! Also, I’m guessing I should bite the bullet and update the DNS registrant info to my client, away from their old IT contact? I know it’ll put a lock on the domains, but I’m guessing it’s a better longterm solution.
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I have an old Lithium Hosting account I use for the sole purpose of hosting email addresses for myself and my dad. There is a 4gb storage limit and I am rapidly approaching it. Is there another service I should consider for hosting email with my own domain? I'm mainly interested in cheap and don't need much storage.
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Fastmail would be my standard recommendation at $8/month for a two-person plan. 50GB of mail storage each.
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Yeah I can confirm that Fastmail is a reliable provider. I've also been using https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/service-mail for the last year or so and they have been reliable. It's one of those services like zoho where they're trying to sell you on an entire "suite" of products, but you can boil it down to just email once you learn how it all works. It's incredibly cheap too: like 0.3 euros per user per month for mailboxes without size limits. I charge clients like £9/month for email accounts so it works out well for me. I still find email hosting stressful though and wish I didn't have to do it. I'm tempted to move everything to Microsoft 365 just to make sure it's really reliable and stable. Does anyone use a 365 business account to host multiple email accounts for distinct domains / separate clients? I'm worried it's going to treat everyone as part of the same "organisation" and I don't want there to be any leakage between the different clients. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/business#layout-container-uid4d2d
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You can do it, it's a pain, and Microsoft will probably break something in the config with some feature upgrade and you'll be emergency fix it mode. So it's not worth it.
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FWIW, and I don't even know if this is recommend or not anymore, but for years I had 20+ users on a hosted RackSpace Exchange account, but I've long moved passed that (for reasons that have nothing to do with bad service/reliability/anything bad/etc). YMMV
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fuf posted:Does anyone use a 365 business account to host multiple email accounts for distinct domains / separate clients? I'm worried it's going to treat everyone as part of the same "organisation" and I don't want there to be any leakage between the different clients. This probably isn't very helpful but our IT vendor manages our M365 services and doesn't seem to have any problem keeping our M365 tenant separate from all their other clients. I'm not sure what level of partner you have to be with Microsoft to be able to do this, if you google M365 MSP there's probably a bunch of info out there.
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Been using Lithium over a decade for several business sites and I'm really happy with it. It's inexpensive as well. Thanks Darklotus.
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aioli is just mayo posted:Been using Lithium over a decade for several business sites and I'm really happy with it. It's inexpensive as well. Thanks Darklotus. Thanks for the support! Crazy, this August will be 19 years
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Also have been on Lithium for what feels like forever and I have zero complaints.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Also have been on Lithium for what feels like forever and I have zero complaints. It does feel like forever ![]() Thanks for the comment!!
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I opened my dreamhost account in December 2006. I hardly use it anymore so should drop it but damned if I don't want to hit 20 years lol. That'll be $2,388 USD for 20 years of unlimited transfer and later storage hosting, not terrible.
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It's worth noting that there is no point in storing a secondary payment method on Lithium - if your default payment expires, having another card (or two) as payment methods won't use them and they'll cancel your account and remove your DNS settings even if you've registered the domain through them. All over a $2 account. They're usually bulletproof but this policy makes no sense at all. Either only allow for 1 payment method or instead of terminating an account, attempt the other stored payment methods. I guess my other methods are just there, waiting for a data breach.
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To be fair, I’m pretty sure it spams you with emails about upcoming renewal. But yeah, the “sitting there waiting for a data breach” made me giggle ![]() Li seems pretty secure. The “manifest” shenanigans with LiPanel is maddening though, with how secure it wants to be if you’re running anything other than Wordpress or a few other “popular” web apps. For instance, it would chown back dokuwiki and the whole thing is flat file ![]() e: fixed. eightysixed fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Aug 5, 2025 |
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Yeah, I got the warnings, put in a new card the month before, processed a payment with that card so it works, then thought the notifications would be for the card that had expired but that it would treat the others as a backup payment. Removing a dead payment method wasn't exactly on the top of my list of things to do when another one or two methods are stored.
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sellouts posted:It's worth noting that there is no point in storing a secondary payment method on Lithium - if your default payment expires, having another card (or two) as payment methods won't use them and they'll cancel your account and remove your DNS settings even if you've registered the domain through them. All over a $2 account. This isn't a Lithium specific thing, this is just how WHMCS handles credit cards. Automatic payments only use the card you mark as default for payments. Imagine if the system randomly selected a card for payment... This is typically true for most online services that allow multiple cards. Merchants cannot charge a card without authorization, so if you don't mark one as default, we cannot default a payment to it but they can be used for one-off payments manually by you. There's no risk of compromise of card data, all card data is sent to Stripe via JavaScript in your browser which means our server, network and billing system never see anything other than an expiry date and card last 4. Stripe returns a token, that token is used with our private key to process recurring payments. You could have a dozen cards on file and never use more than 1 and those cards would never be at risk of compromise. This is how we've handled payments for over a decade. This is what mine looks like: code:That data is unusable by anyone, so if ever there was a breach, there would be no card data disclosed. I'm sorry your service was terminated due to non-payment, but it was after 14 days with no contact from you after receiving several notices and warnings including suspension.
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eightysixed posted:The “manifest” shenanigans with LiPanel is maddening though It's possible to assign a PHP pool to any user on the account beyond the primary user now under Web > PHP Pools. This allows a situation where the account admin has 2FA and solely panel access, every other user (mail, PHP, Node, Python, Ruby, Go) can operate as a secondary, unprivileged user. Next release will allow multiple PHP pools per account, so you could further refine that by having a dedicated user for DokuWiki - that's not admin - and have another user for elsewhere on your account.
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One of my hosting clients (I host a basic website and a couple of mailboxes) has started using this third party cloud-hosted app to handle a part of their business. It's totally separate from the website and email I provide. The app company has asked for SMTP details so that the app can send email. When I questioned this they said: "We host the [app] database and the [app] Android Service for our apps on our 365 Cloud server, but for them to be able to send emails from [app], they have to use their own email account details. We do not provide or maintain an email account for them." This seems super weird to me. If they're providing a cloud-hosted app, why can't they just use 365 to send emails? If they want to use the main domain as the "from" address, I can add any spf etc. DNS records they need... Am I wrong that this is weird? I'm reluctant to give them SMTP details for a mailbox on my server because I have no idea wtf this random app is gonna be using it for. They've already talked about attaching PDFs to each email. What is the cheapest / simplest SMTP account / email service I can sign up for and give them the details for?
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fuf posted:One of my hosting clients (I host a basic website and a couple of mailboxes) has started using this third party cloud-hosted app to handle a part of their business. It's totally separate from the website and email I provide.
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I'd like to have my own website to access several self hosted services and also to have my own email addresses for me and the family. The email thing is probably pretty straightforward but I have no idea how I'd go about setting my site to be able to point to those services I'm already running on my home network. I think it would require subdomains but after that I got nothing because I'm a total noob. Is there a resource that could guide me through all this stuff?
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Arson Daily posted:I'd like to have my own website to access several self hosted services and also to have my own email addresses for me and the family. The email thing is probably pretty straightforward but I have no idea how I'd go about setting my site to be able to point to those services I'm already running on my home network. I think it would require subdomains but after that I got nothing because I'm a total noob. Is there a resource that could guide me through all this stuff? Sounds like most you might be looking for a reverse proxy, but there is a great self hosting thread too: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3985071&pagenumber=79&perpage=40
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CloudFlare free tier to handle DNS/subdomains and be an additional proxy later or use Argo tunnels and Nginx Proxy Manager handling requests to my home internet in port 80/443 and also doing letsencrypr certs for my stuff and sometimes basic auth. There's many alternatives here to CloudFlare and NPM but they're just enough and simple for me. For email I just create addresses in Cloudflares email forwarder and send them to a Gmail account. Gmail will let you 'send as' any email you can verify you control which generally works fine for my needs.
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Arson Daily posted:I'd like to have my own website to access several self hosted services and also to have my own email addresses for me and the family. The email thing is probably pretty straightforward but I have no idea how I'd go about setting my site to be able to point to those services I'm already running on my home network. I think it would require subdomains but after that I got nothing because I'm a total noob. Is there a resource that could guide me through all this stuff? Dont host poo poo on your home network if youre not sure of the answer to these questions. Its fine to learn enough to be sure about it, but its a high risk little reward thing. Google workspace "just works" and is not much money for ArsonDailyFamily.com's email. Tailscale is easy enough. Its running certain services exposed to the public internet, like a web or email server, that I'm warning against.
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The peeps over on the selfhosting thread warned me off the email thing so I'm just gonna keep using proton mail. I'm going to look into tailscale funnel and see how that works I guess.
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Arson Daily posted:The peeps over on the selfhosting thread warned me off the email thing so I'm just gonna keep using proton mail. I'm going to look into tailscale funnel and see how that works I guess. My Ubiquiti dream router has a built in VPN, your router may too as another option. That said, id only run it if you have a router that gets regular updates.
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Arson Daily posted:I'd like to have my own website to access several self hosted services and also to have my own email addresses for me and the family. The email thing is probably pretty straightforward but I have no idea how I'd go about setting my site to be able to point to those services I'm already running on my home network. I think it would require subdomains but after that I got nothing because I'm a total noob. Is there a resource that could guide me through all this stuff? Step 1. Get a domain name Step 2. Install Caddy Step 3. Create a Caddyfile that reverse-proxies your domain to the service(s) on your network Step 4. Forward ports 80 and 443 to your server box Step 5. Stay up all night wondering is my setup secure enough? Welcome to the Hell that is being an amateur server admin Vella Wilde fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 6, 2025 |
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If I am looking to get a domain name registered, is there any particular domain name registrar I should be looking at? What's the difference between them?
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Absolutely nothing is different from a technical aspect. It's all about service/website/price/etc. General goto these days is cloudflare that sells at approximate cost, and doesn't over sell you other services. And you can get free reverse proxy from them.
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There are registrars like GoDaddy that advertise heavily to the general public and then do shady stuff on the back end to milk their customers. I was with Gandi for years but they got bought out and jacked up their fees so I've been using Porkbun, who have been good so far. Generally, I expect DNS hosting and private registration (WHOIS record cloaking) to be provided for free.
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I thought PorkBun was the goto for awhile, can’t remember why.
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It's still good, I still use it.
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