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tripwood posted:Just say the loving line JC. Go to the Ton, bro. Good poo poo goin down.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I meant in the sense of a game that just takes every conspiracy theory it can get its hands on and jams them together, possibly while listening to Art Bell. 90’s and 2000 conspiracy theories were kind of fun. Now the best one we have is what, they’re making the frogs gay? It’s all false flag poo poo about very real dead kids and insane QAnon stuff now. it would be way too spicy to actually be made but I'd love a 2020 deus ex where theres both a horrible epstein style conspiracy and a rival qanon right wing coup and the player has to fight them both. and also all the bad guys are in their late 70s and succumbing to dementia
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May 14, 2020 03:39
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Butterfly Valley posted:Regarding your second point, can't you just throw the boom from around a corner?
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May 14, 2020 04:22
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Chiming in to say I'm also down for a level by level goonplay. Not sure which I'd take. I've mostly farted around in the first few levels since I haven't done an actual full replay in donkeys ears.
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May 14, 2020 09:38
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Deus Ex: Bidecennial Edition 'Say the line, JC.'
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May 14, 2020 14:26
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Butterfly Valley posted:Last time I played, as a logical extension to my early game pacifism, I decided to neutralise every single NSF and UNATCO troop in the Hell's Kitchen fight before any of them could kill each other. There's two separate groups that aggro at the same time, one near the clinic and the other at the top of the park and it was a huge fuckin bitch gassing and thwacking them before anyone dies. They were super fond of breaking out of the gas rubbing animation for the 2 seconds necessary to murder someone next to them. This was something that would be necessary during a Batman Beyond run. I feel your pain.
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May 14, 2020 16:13
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What about the 'Ton lobby before Paul shoots everyone?
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May 14, 2020 17:27
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I'm getting flashbacks of a flurry of gas grenades batons and prods. Pretty sure I managed to do that one as well. Another notable early one is the Hostage situation in the subway without killing anyone. Or when UNATCO attacks Castle Clinton and you have to knock out all the NSF before they get killed. Interestingly enough, Anna Navarre was OK with knockouts, as long as the terrorists were "flat on their backs". Or maybe the game can't tell the difference, I dunno.
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May 14, 2020 17:35
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Yeah, her reaction to castle Clinton is glitched. I want to say that if you kill one person and knock everyone else out, she gets pissed that you were too soft on them, but if you KO everyone, you're "not afraid to kill".
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May 14, 2020 17:42
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The interaction about castle Clinton is flagged depending on your exit entrance. If you leave castle Clinton through front door Navarre assumes everyone is dead.
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May 14, 2020 17:51
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Oh poo poo, that's right. It's like Paul in the hotel. It's been a long time. Too long.
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May 14, 2020 18:20
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Last time I played I had this hilarious bug in the 'Ton where Paul would vanish from existence if I took my eyes off him at all, and would count as him dying. Saving his life was very difficult.
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May 14, 2020 18:59
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I'm getting flashbacks of a flurry of gas grenades batons and prods. Pretty sure I managed to do that one as well. Another notable early one is the Hostage situation in the subway without killing anyone. Or when UNATCO attacks Castle Clinton and you have to knock out all the NSF before they get killed. Interestingly enough, Anna Navarre was OK with knockouts, as long as the terrorists were "flat on their backs". Or maybe the game can't tell the difference, I dunno.
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May 14, 2020 19:00
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I can't tell which encounter you're referring to but if its the hostage subway, wouldn't they trigger the explosives? My strategy was to sneak around back, release the hostages stealthfully, creep around to the top vents and use a combination of gas grenades, prods batons and tranqs to keep them from running into the lasers
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May 14, 2020 19:04
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The subway. If I remember right the NSF will stay on the platform and pass out one by one as you dart them. After that I stick all the TNT in a vent shaft and EOD it by walking through the lasers myself.
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May 14, 2020 19:07
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Leave the next person in line in as weird/precarious situation as possible.  SolidSnakesBandana posted:Last time I played I had this hilarious bug in the 'Ton where Paul would vanish from existence if I took my eyes off him at all, and would count as him dying. Saving his life was very difficult.
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May 14, 2020 19:17
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twenty years
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May 14, 2020 19:51
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Diggus Bickus posted:Looks like someone managed to get a bunch of player models into the source engine and has way too much time on their hands: holy poo poo 
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May 15, 2020 06:50
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Diggus Bickus posted:Looks like someone managed to get a bunch of player models into the source engine and has way too much time on their hands: I can't get over the ranma gag with alex denton
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May 15, 2020 07:00
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Diggus Bickus posted:Looks like someone managed to get a bunch of player models into the source engine and has way too much time on their hands: This is incredible. I'm so happy messing with my favourite game still appeals to zoomer memelords.
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May 15, 2020 09:17
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Castle Clinton was a cakewalk to keep everyone alive compared to that Hell's Kitchen fight. And the subway hostage situation is just fun, I was like a whack-a-mole or trap spider popping out of the vents and booping the guards and dragging them back in before anyone else could notice. I think I've even used some of the TNT to 'defuse' the trip wires after all the other TNT is safely stashed/lugged halfway across the map to blow something up. Thoughts on killing the guy who literally asks for it in front of the war memorial? When I was a kid I thought I was doing the right thing by putting him out of his misery but now I understand drug comedowns and addiction I always spare him.
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May 15, 2020 12:45
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Also when I visited America 5 years ago 95% of the reason I visited the statue of liberty was to see how much the island resembles the first level. I know you can take the staten island ferry for free to get a decent view but I wanted to be on the same ground as JC. The boat also leaves from battery park so I have a photo in front of castle clinton trying to recreate Denton's pose from the box art because I'm a huge nerd. I also spent 3 hours driving into the desert from Las Vegas to see Area 51, or rather a heavily guarded security gate and an insane waitress in an alien mask in a bar in a 'town' that's 10 trailers and a UFO model nearby, but that's more because I was big into aliens when I was a kid
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May 15, 2020 12:49
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What other deus ex tourism have I done. Ah yeah same trip half the reason I chose the specific airbnb we stayed in in Hong Kong was because it was in Wan Chai, which is where the similarities started and finished. Paris is just as bad. Prague from MD is a beautifully realised video game city and they do well to capture specific architectural styles but obviously the game is way more dense feeling than irl. Trier I've visited a couple of times recently because I live 30 minutes away although I have gently caress all memory of how it looks in IW. The cathedral is cool though, a really weird mish mash of centuries worth of different architectural styles all on top of one another.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Also when I visited America 5 years ago 95% of the reason I visited the statue of liberty was to see how much the island resembles the first level. I know you can take the staten island ferry for free to get a decent view but I wanted to be on the same ground as JC. The boat also leaves from battery park so I have a photo in front of castle clinton trying to recreate Denton's pose from the box art because I'm a huge nerd. I dunno how close Liberty Island is but Battery Park and Castle Clinton do a great job of feeling like the actual place even if they aren't 1:1 replicas. I used to eat my lunch in battery park almost every day back when I worked in NYC.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Paris is just as bad. Playing the Paris level in Deus Ex made one thing clear to me, nobody in the dev team had any experience of France. The name "Nicolette DuClare" also reinforced this sentiment. And though I've never visited Hong Kong, its depiction in the game felt kinda theme-parky in a way the New York levels didn't.
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May 15, 2020 14:47
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I'd say the Hong Kong street and metro signs are about the only thing that they get right but that could be the Mandela effect.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I dunno how close Liberty Island is but Battery Park and Castle Clinton do a great job of feeling like the actual place even if they aren't 1:1 replicas. I used to eat my lunch in battery park almost every day back when I worked in NYC. The ultimate New York game is still The Division. Holy poo poo did they nail it, and if it weren't infested with hackers I'd still be playing.
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Actual Wan Chai bears zero resemblance to the game. I also checked it out when I was in Hong Kong. There is a Tonnochy Road though.
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Shumagorath posted:I was greatly dismayed that the closest thing to a 'Ton in Hell's Kitchen was a Doubletree by Hilton. That was spot-on. The expansion pack for D2 did a great job of it, too. I found my old office building and they even had the asston of food carts tucked away exactly where they were supposed to be, the bar I used to go to after work had its distinctive red storefront, fuckin' everything.
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May 15, 2020 15:16
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Going through my backlog I saw I'd never played Deus Ex: The Fall and since I loved the new games far too much I thought I'd give it a go. Gotta tell you, it hooked me just like HR did. Although I did make the title a bit too literal when I managed to fall through the world looking at a pocket secretary all along. It had all the bits I'd loved, talking to people, hacking, multiple routes... It even culminated in a big boss fight which I was able to whoop due to my high level. Then it ended... 
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May 20, 2020 06:08
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Did anyone post about the piss filter patch for DXHR directors cut? Even if you not a fan of the look, this is a really good write up. I'm pro piss BTW. https://cookieplmonster.github.io/2020/04/26/dxhr-dc-gold-filter/
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dishwasherlove posted:Did anyone post about the piss filter patch for DXHR directors cut? Even if you not a fan of the look, this is a really good write up. I'm pro piss BTW. Add me to the golden filter camp too. It's an interesting technical summary, and a surprising one to me. Last time I played DXHR I searched fairly extensively to see if anyone had restored the filter; the game just isn't the same without it. I'm surprised anyone cared, but it's cool to see it done in a technically precise way.
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dishwasherlove posted:Did anyone post about the piss filter patch for DXHR directors cut? Even if you not a fan of the look, this is a really good write up. I'm pro piss BTW. Whoa. I fired up the Director's Cut a few months back and the first thing I thought was, man this looks like poo poo and I turned it off after a few minutes. I remember thinking it used to look so good, but I thought it was just nostalgia or something. Now I think it was the filter, cause I played the game way back on the original release.
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May 20, 2020 09:19
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I think this thread proves that only TRUE DE fans appreciated the pissgold filter. Honestly, I could understand the issues with it but I also really liked it. It felt like a reasonable future eye view where certain things are highlighted and the whole theme was "cyber-rennaisance" so gold makes sense to me. Just don't put it side by side with Piss Christ though.
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The gold was a bit much, the problem isn't that the DC toned it down but that it was ripped out and replaced with nothing.
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I really enjoyed the whole Greek/Roman thematic they were originally going for, including the gold filter. It made DX feel distinguished in a field of grey/brown modern shooters that's plagued the market since HL2/Modern Warfare. But people want realism so it's back to harsh, stark-white florescent lights and muted greys.
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Yeah whether you like the gold or not, the game's design aesthetic was designed with it in mind and if you just rip it out it's going to look like trash
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I didn't even notice they ripped it out, but the game's art director had a great vision and was right that a distinctive style will survive a lot longer than simply going for hyper-realistic rendering. Thanks for posting that!
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I remember trying out the DC a while ago and thinking it looked bleh, I couldn't understand why I thought this game was such hot poo poo when it was released. This goes a long way in explaining, the piss filter really gives it an unique look.
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