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Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an



The most wild thing about RPM is that it somehow didn't go over budget despite having nearly no actual Go-Onger footage outside zord fights.

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Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


man, rewatching TLA after all these years is like a waterfall of nostalgia. i know i've gushed endlessly about the show, but i'm just so amazed at how well crafted it is. even the filler episodes are immensely enjoyable. the characters, voice acting, music, pacing, animation/art, everything is so on point.

part of why it means a lot to me is what was already mentioned. but another part is that it's the last western animated series that made me feel such a way. the show also aired during a chaotic, but also really, really fun time in my life, so i have a lot of happy memories associated with it.

Larryb posted:

Speaking of which, is The Dragon Prince any good?

it has good things about it, but if you're expecting a spiritual successor to TLA (like i was), it's going to leave you disappointed. i have a long list of complaints sadly, but one of the really big ones is that, similar to korra, the show suffers from really bad pacing. things move waaaay too quick, and there's not enough time for the story and characters to breathe.

SlothfulCobra posted:

That's kind of one of those questions of "how much of the quality comes from which people?" Because Brian and Mike went straight from Last Airbender to Korra, but a whole lot of the production staff didn't go along, and instead went off to other projects that had their own independent success like Dragon Prince, Clone Wars, and Star Vs.

yeah, after korra, a lot of people were saying Aaron Ehasz was the real heart and soul of TLA...then the dragon prince happened

Ruflux posted:

It's probably the good old DVD versions they used and the first handful of episodes look extra crusty. I think the picture quality improves somewhat by season two, but it's still suboptimal. I was pretty severely disappointed when I got my boxset back in the day and found out the picture quality was probably miles worse than you get with versions.

Also for compatibility reasons I bought the European version even though the American version was also available on Amazon UK and discovered they basically cut out nearly all of the cool extras, thanks a bunch Viacom! Really love that you did that! I also later discovered the old DVD player in my closet was actually region-free so it could've played the region 1 discs just fine too so I got like, double pissed off

my blu-rays just (FINALLY) came in, so it'll be interesting to compare and see how much more tolerable it is, later tonight. also, the blu-rays come with a bunch of extras (which i believe are the ones that appeared on the original dvd releases). i'd recommend getting those since they're cheap!

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


Funky Valentine posted:

The most wild thing about RPM is that it somehow didn't go over budget despite having nearly no actual Go-Onger footage outside zord fights.

I thought one of the big things about RPM was that it specifically did go over budget and prompting some Director/Producer changes

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007




What I remember of the ATLA DVDs is that the commentary was a gamble each time. Some episodes you get Bryan Konietzko and Sokka's VA, or a head writer and the fight choreographer, and sometimes it's a foley artist and the guy who makes Momo noises.

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


The Rise of Kyoshi novel also mentions that the Airbenders were the only nation that was so spiritually attuned that every single one of them was a bender... which meant that they were totally blindsided when one of them decided to become a bandit.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



Regalingualius posted:

The Rise of Kyoshi novel also mentions that the Airbenders were the only nation that was so spiritually attuned that every single one of them was a bender... which meant that they were totally blindsided when one of them decided to become a bandit.

Speaking of which, is the Kyoshi novel any good?

Tactless Ogre
Oct 31, 2011


Larryb posted:

Speaking of which, is the Kyoshi novel any good?

It's a pretty fun read. Certainly grittier than the series, but nothing stupidly shitdark. I drew some Three Kingdoms parallels with the rampant bribery across the land and the Yellow Necks who are really fill ins for Yellow Turbans. One thing to note though is that Kyoshi starts out meek before becoming the Heavy Metal Avatar that we love. I personally enjoyed it.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

Did they ever release the pilot for TLA without commentary?

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012


Tactless Ogre posted:

It's a pretty fun read. Certainly grittier than the series, but nothing stupidly shitdark. I drew some Three Kingdoms parallels with the rampant bribery across the land and the Yellow Necks who are really fill ins for Yellow Turbans. One thing to note though is that Kyoshi starts out meek before becoming the Heavy Metal Avatar that we love. I personally enjoyed it.

I heard that it was actually a lot more mature in the sense that bending was explicitly lethal sometimes and such. Was that just somebody exaggerating or something?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



Ruflux posted:

I heard that it was actually a lot more mature in the sense that bending was explicitly lethal sometimes and such. Was that just somebody exaggerating or something?

Doesn't sound surprising. Kyoshi IS the Avatar who unrepentantly killed people, and outright says that she considers letting Chin the Conqueror fall to his death has no meaningful difference from killing him. That and Avatar used the cartoon tricks to act like like people weren't dying when they really were.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


I feel like in ATLA everyone was a bender of their nationís type? Some more powerful than others?

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

The_Doctor posted:

I feel like in ATLA everyone was a bender of their nation’s type? Some more powerful than others?

No, Sokka, for instance, was explicitly not a waterbender.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



Pakled posted:

No, Sokka, for instance, was explicitly not a waterbender.

I donít believe Suki and the Kyoshi Warriors were benders either. Same goes for Jet and his gang.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



Mentioned before that a big deal is that Katara is the last living Southern Water Tribe waterbender, and the Earth Kingdom(s) has the largest population but smallest proportion of benders. They're explicitly a minority of the world population, if an accepted and often elevated one.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.



Pakled posted:

No, Sokka, for instance, was explicitly not a waterbender.

Of course not, he's a Lovebender.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


Pakled posted:

No, Sokka, for instance, was explicitly not a waterbender.

Oh, right. That was staring me in the face.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


kind of interesting looking back and seeing that there were a decent number of non-benders that could hold their own against benders. sort of like one piece in that regard.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Doesn't sound surprising. Kyoshi IS the Avatar who unrepentantly killed people, and outright says that she considers letting Chin the Conqueror fall to his death has no meaningful difference from killing him.

interesting given that the series played that scene off for laughs (ngl, it was one of my favorite moments)

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Tactless Ogre
Oct 31, 2011


Ruflux posted:

I heard that it was actually a lot more mature in the sense that bending was explicitly lethal sometimes and such. Was that just somebody exaggerating or something?

No. In hindsight, I might have downplayed the grim aspects a bit. It's like...think Korra but with a little more levity.

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