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TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta


Grimey Drawer

Digamma-F-Wau posted:

Worth noting that:

1) Owen Dennis' plan is to have 8 books total


Geez, that's bold to say the least. Reminds me of back when Greg Weisman had planned out Young Justice for like 5 seasons before getting canned in 2. Of course then that got revived on streaming too.

It seems increasing like if you cross your fingers and tweet hard enough at them, HBO Max will revive and produce any drat show (or movie I guess with the Snyder Justice League).

The 7th Guest posted:

total drama island is returning as well

And so Canada's attacks on the U.S. continue unabated

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Feb 18, 2021

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Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

...puh-
puhroud..??




TwoPair posted:

Geez, that's bold to say the least.

Owen mentioned that his reasoning was that because the letter 8 looks like a sideways infinity. Plus given how IT production seasons work he'd only need 2 more 20 episode production seasons to get there.

Ministry of Pork
Jun 14, 2012


SlothfulCobra posted:

Chowder was great, and I don't think people talk about it enough. It was really creative about mixing mediums and it was fun how weird the world got. It tends to get overshadowed by Flapjack for having more adult humor and more staff that went on to do other projects.

Chowder never quite seems to get enough love, I think. There was so much 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' with that show. Just took character, ran with it, nuts to continuity, and just have fun with the art. drat fine voice talent too.

C.H. Greenblatt who pulled off Chowder, then pitched 'Harvey Beaks' which kinda follows in the vein, but with a more conventional art style and a lot of really fantastic music. Though it's more a musical, whimsical childhood romp, compared with Chowder's 'maybe I did eat those mushrooms' sensibilities.

Sadly it got chucked out the window hard by Nickolodeon when it didn't hit the ground running. So, remains a sadly single season unsung gem.

In the meantime, Spongebob still carries the gently caress on.

Ministry of Pork
Jun 14, 2012


doomrider7 posted:

I had always thought the train was a sort of mental trap sort of alternate reality where your subconscious gets tossed into to sort your poo poo out while in reality physically you're still living your life just in a sort of autopilot. The train being seemingly real was...kind of mixed bag since it opens up so many more questions. How long has it been going on? How many people have gone in there? How many have actually gotten off? Does time pass the same in the train as it does outside of it? Do the families of those that have gone missing just never notice or just assume disappearances? And that's on top of the questions about who built the train and what for or how the trains denizens come into being.

There's a Reddit AMA where the creators flat out say 'No.' to the train time/earth time difference question, implying it's the same scale on the train as off, which does sure as hell raise some weirdness. Also Owen Dennis says 'ya' to "If you die on the train do you die in real life."

So...the train is....real? People just bugger off into train territory for months, years on end and then reappear when they've got their poo poo together, or not at all.

That's a big leap but I mean I'm willing to shrug it off for the sake of a good story, still though.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

...puh-
puhroud..??




Owen once mentioned how the execs outright went "oh" when he told them about the train stuff being in real time

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013


You've been kidnapped by the therapy train. Warning: therapy train is broken.

Ministry of Pork posted:

That's a big leap but I mean I'm willing to shrug it off for the sake of a good story, still though.

Surely the idea that it's a Narnia situation is the (comparatively) bigger leap to make?

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Honestly I'm most excited by the news that Total Drama is returning, which probably says something about my broken mind...

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Never watched Avatar The Last Airbender until binging it these past few weeks. Now I get it. Probably the best kids' cartoon show ever.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.



Ministry of Pork posted:

There's a Reddit AMA where the creators flat out say 'No.' to the train time/earth time difference question, implying it's the same scale on the train as off, which does sure as hell raise some weirdness. Also Owen Dennis says 'ya' to "If you die on the train do you die in real life."

So...the train is....real? People just bugger off into train territory for months, years on end and then reappear when they've got their poo poo together, or not at all.

That's a big leap but I mean I'm willing to shrug it off for the sake of a good story, still though.

The train seems to have a positive goal but becomes increasingly sinister the more you learn about it. By all indications, this is fully intentional.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

I like to think that most people know the train exists in a abstract way, just they don't know how it works, what it's for, or that it even is a real thing, so they are still shocked when it happens to THEM. Then after they don't show up for a few months, or their families try to raise a missing persons thing and the cop asks "Was there any incidents of heightened emotional stress or unusually excessive misbehaviour? Yeah, thought so. They're probably on the train, it's not a missing persons thing yet. They'll either show up in a few weeks having calmed down, or they'll show up dead." then they realise what's happened.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.




Slippery Tilde

Animal-Mother posted:

Never watched Avatar The Last Airbender until binging it these past few weeks. Now I get it. Probably the best kids' cartoon show ever.

Do not watch the live action movie.


Legend of Korra is pretty ok if you're otherwise starved for content.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


BioEnchanted posted:

I like to think that most people know the train exists in a abstract way, just they don't know how it works, what it's for, or that it even is a real thing, so they are still shocked when it happens to THEM. Then after they don't show up for a few months, or their families try to raise a missing persons thing and the cop asks "Was there any incidents of heightened emotional stress or unusually excessive misbehaviour? Yeah, thought so. They're probably on the train, it's not a missing persons thing yet. They'll either show up in a few weeks having calmed down, or they'll show up dead." then they realise what's happened.

I was thinking about some tiny internet forum of people investigating 'The Train' phenomena, trying to find clues, finding a support group of people who have been on the train (sure, it solves one problem, but you're going to be getting nightmares for years after about some of the other stuff you see), and the group trying to piece together exactly what's going on.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



The_Doctor posted:

I was thinking about some tiny internet forum of people investigating 'The Train' phenomena, trying to find clues, finding a support group of people who have been on the train (sure, it solves one problem, but you're going to be getting nightmares for years after about some of the other stuff you see), and the group trying to piece together exactly what's going on.

The show hasnít been shy about letting weird consequences get off the train. Tulip doesnít have a reflection and her reflection is a metal teenager living with another train survivor.

I find the mirror world stuff more unsettling than the train, as it apparently has nothing to do with the train except that thereís one car that lets mirror people outóthe mirror people donít seem to be creations of the train. Thereís definitely a sense with Infinity Train that the fundamental nature of the universe is extremely weird and unsettling, with the train just being one instance of that sublime, terrible universe.

Antifa Turkeesian fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Feb 18, 2021

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!



It's been a few months since I binged Infinity Train, but I had a series-long theory about what was going on:

I think the train is from a desolate ruined future and was created/evolved by itself to "fix" the bad nature of humans in the past so that the calamity never happens.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The show hasnít been shy about letting weird consequences get off the train. Tulip doesnít have a shadow, and her shadow is a metal teenager living with another train survivor.

I find the mirror world stuff more unsettling than the train, as it apparently has nothing to do with the train except that thereís one car that lets mirror people outóthe mirror people donít seem to be creations of the train. Thereís definitely a sense with Infinity Train that the fundamental nature of the universe is extremely weird and unsettling, with the train just being one instance of that sublime, terrible universe.

I do wonder how people in our world deal with Lake. Like, she's a living metal mirror person, she's not going to be working as a barista somewhere.

Ministry of Pork
Jun 14, 2012


The_Doctor posted:

I do wonder how people in our world deal with Lake. Like, she's a living metal mirror person, she's not going to be working as a barista somewhere.

Ehhh, maybe Portland.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


Ministry of Pork posted:

Ehhh, maybe Portland.


-"What's her deal?"
-"She's a mirror."
-"Huh."

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta


Grimey Drawer

She can just pretend she's one of those human statue people in parks, only she's really bad at it.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Beachcomber posted:

Do not watch the live action movie.

Legend of Korra is pretty ok if you're otherwise starved for content.

Just did. I had heard it was terrible but WOW. Every single decision was wrong and bad. Casting, CGI, pronouncing every character's name wrong. The water tribe general going "Hooooooooo"

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!




Fun Shoe

Animal-Mother posted:

Just did. I had heard it was terrible but WOW. Every single decision was wrong and bad. Casting, CGI, pronouncing every character's name wrong. The water tribe general going "Hooooooooo"

Personally I'm fond of the fact that a five person dance squad of earth benders was needed to chuck a single rock.

Also the penis hair.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)


JazzFlight posted:

It's been a few months since I binged Infinity Train, but I had a series-long theory about what was going on:

I think the train is from a desolate ruined future and was created/evolved by itself to "fix" the bad nature of humans in the past so that the calamity never happens.

I like this theory.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

readingatwork posted:

Personally I'm fond of the fact that a five person dance squad of earth benders was needed to chuck a single rock.

Also the penis hair.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis





I almost feel like Mike and Bryan cast Seychelle Gabriel in Legend of Korra as a means of apologizing that she had to be involved in the production of that trainwreck of a movie. Which was good either way because she knocked it out of the park as Asami Sato.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an



Aasif Mandvi as Zhao is a casting choice that to this day I refuse to believe.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?





Gonna be honest, he was a highlight, because I pictured every one of his scenes ending with him throwing back to Jon

Macrame_God
Sep 1, 2005

The stairs lead down in both directions.



I only saw The Last Airbender once and that was through RiffTrax. Even then it was still insufferable.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



Speaking of Avatar, hereís some recent news regarding the upcoming Netflix series:

https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/02/19/avatar-the-last-airbender-kim/

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!




Fun Shoe

I will never watch a live action Avatar TV show and you can't make me.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



readingatwork posted:

I will never watch a live action Avatar TV show and you can't make me.

Thereís a chance it might be better than the movie at least but thatís kind of a low bar

Larryb fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 20, 2021

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009




Larryb posted:

it might be better than the movie at least.

i mean that bar is four feet underground, so

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003



Larryb posted:

Neither will I, though to be fair the showrunner is Asian and the original creators are involved so it might be better than the movie at least.
i thought the creators broke off from the project due to creative differences ie Netflix wanting to change a bunch of poo poo

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007




Fallen Rib

Larryb posted:

Neither will I, though to be fair the showrunner is Asian and the original creators are involved so it might be better than the movie at least.

Actually, the original creators bailed back in August for reasons that were vague, but not encouraging.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



kidcoelacanth posted:

i mean that bar is four feet underground, so

Right, that ainít saying much to be honest.

Though one bit of oddity from the article is that they apparently futzed around with Katara and Sokkaís ages, so now itís:

Katara: 16
Sokka: 14

While Aang is still physically 12.

YggiDee posted:

Actually, the original creators bailed back in August for reasons that were vague, but not encouraging.

Oh yeah, nevermind that part then

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

Goons Steal?
No Dignity!



When the breakup is that public you just know there's some real nasty poo poo going on. Like straight up saying "well, it might be good, but it will not be anything we wanted to make." is insane in hollywood.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013


Larryb posted:

Though one bit of oddity from the article is that they apparently futzed around with Katara and Sokkaís ages, so now itís:

Katara: 16
Sokka: 14

While Aang is still physically 12.

Zuko's 16 too, which explains Katara being aged up.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


are they planning on making zutara a thing? cause if not....

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


I don't know if it's a good idea to do a live-action series starring mainly child actors. Child actors can be a gamble, but onscreen acting is even more complicated. I know I've heard things about Stranger Things pulling it off, but I've never seen it, and I have my doubts.

Also it still seems weird to do a straight-up remake of the show after not that long. It doesn't even sound like Netflix is planning much of a new spin on it.

Larryb posted:

Neither will I, though to be fair the showrunner is Asian and the original creators are involved so it might be better than the movie at least.

Shyamalan was asian, but he decided to make his own kind of asian more prominent, which was a weird decision. Not really what dragged the movie down, but still weird. I'm not sure how many asians were involved in the showrunning of the original series, but I think Mike and Brian weren't. I know that they got a fair amount of ethnic voice talent though.

How respectful people are of the terrestrial cultures they're inspired by isn't necessarily correlated with their own individual ethnic identity.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

...puh-
puhroud..??




Avatar did notably give a lot more respect and trust towards the overseas studios in Korea than most western shows (with Korra even moreso than the original arguably)

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010



SlothfulCobra posted:

Shyamalan was asian, but he decided to make his own kind of asian more prominent, which was a weird decision. Not really what dragged the movie down, but still weird. I'm not sure how many asians were involved in the showrunning of the original series, but I think Mike and Brian weren't. I know that they got a fair amount of ethnic voice talent though.

How respectful people are of the terrestrial cultures they're inspired by isn't necessarily correlated with their own individual ethnic identity.

Fair point

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Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


it's kind of funny that, for all the poo poo TLA got for whitewashing the main cast (understandably), diversity was not one of its problems. it was plenty diverse, just...with some really questionable choices.

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