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I went back to Amphibia Season one, and it turns out Anne's eyes glow blue for a split-second when she's grappling with the Mantis in Anne or Beast. Neat detail!
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# ? May 2, 2021 22:23 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:I went back to Amphibia Season one, and it turns out Anne's eyes glow blue for a split-second when she's grappling with the Mantis in Anne or Beast. Neat detail! Yeah, I remember seeing that back in the day and thinking there were going to do something with it, especially when she was suddenly weaker than most of the big bugs. Well, now we know.
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# ? May 2, 2021 22:33 |
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Ruflux posted:They're not gonna start mass-firing people for speaking up, come on. It'd be a PR nightmare for one thing and completely ruin the whole channel because now they've got a bunch of shows without showrunners that have halted production. Staff would openly revolt and quit en masse in protest. It's the kind of self-sabotage that would result in the whole DTVA arm collapsing and everyone involved getting booted. Normally I'd agree, but there's a paranoid part of me imagining that they are planning on using this mess as an excuse to gut DTVA because some crazy guy higher up in the company wants to reallocate it's budget to a part of Disney that isn't doing well at the moment(which probably describes like 85% of the company right now)
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# ? May 2, 2021 22:34 |
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Mods please rename this thread to The Pain Room.
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# ? May 3, 2021 17:04 |
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A single thing about the finale that I want to get off my chest, just a small bit of wordplay for those who have seen it: Super-SaiyAnne
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# ? May 3, 2021 17:37 |
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BioEnchanted posted:A single thing about the finale that I want to get off my chest, just a small bit of wordplay for those who have seen it: Super-SaiyAnne Go to the Pain Room. I'll be joining shortly. Also, new thread title: General Kids Show Discussion Thread: Amphibia fans report to the Pain Room Edit: Regarding the pulling of the episode, I think S&P probably pulled it at the last minute since they may have not gotten the full scope of the big thing at the end or were too lazy to flag it ahead of time at any point in the process that might've triggered the flag and now they have to make sure with legal and everything with all of the appropriate content warnings. Or that S&P did okay, but someone else higher in the company panicked after seeing it. Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 3, 2021 |
# ? May 3, 2021 18:57 |
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On a non-amphiba related note, I'm at the end of the Freeza saga in Super and love that Dragonball's heaven and hell are basically switched. The heroes got to go to hell and play with the Oni, which only happened if they screwed up, and with the exception of Cell, the villains go to Heaven because Yemma knows they'll hate it. Also very general trope talk, I've always been a sucker for emotion based powerups, when someone loses themselves in whatever emotion triggers it. It's always a really powerful moment, whether rage (Goku's righteous fury allowing him to tap into Super Saiyan power for the first time, alt example Bubbles Hardcore mode in Powerpuff Girls), sorrow (while I hated the plot point that led to it, Brutal Legend's Black Tear Ophelia is a cool idea for an example and I can't think of another one) or simple hatred (like that one scientist guy in season 5 of Digimon who became a demon digimon's heart and wound up reduced to a deranged face sticking out of his chest screaming "HATRED!"), just having that one aspect completely overwrite everything else in their brain is a very strong idea. Especially when they learn how to tap into that power reliably. Let's also not forget 7's resonance with her built up trauma as every terrible point in her life plays in her head at once causing the apocalypsein Season 1 of Umbrella Academy Gaara in Naruto had an unusual variant, not so much a powerup but a mania - he was perpetually joyful but in a cruel kind of "I'm having a lot of fun killing a lot of people!" way. Not the usual smug murderer like Frieza, but a perpetual deranged smile as he lost himself more and more into the fight. spoilered the ones that seemed appropriate to spoiler, but Dragonball and PPG are enough of a meme it didn't seem to matter, while less people are likely to have seen the other examples or remember them outright as they are less of a cultural staple as specific examples. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 3, 2021 |
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Not to turn this into the Amphibia finale airdate megathread but it is current and relevant, and Matt Braly has an update on that situation: https://twitter.com/Radrappy/status/1389663336430587907 Sounds like edits to the episode are coming. Oh, Disney. Couldn't leave well enough alone. At least we have the original out in the wild now so even with all the changes in the world, the original version, as approved by Disney's own S&P I should add, will still exist no matter how much Disney dislikes it/remains convinced it's bad optics or whatever.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:38 |
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I've never watched Amphibia, and probably won't get around to it anytime soon just like the hundreds of other TV shows I need to watch but can't fit time in for. However I don't think there is a single theme song in existence that I wish got a like 3 minute long version more than the Amphibia theme song.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:59 |
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I mentioned Amphibia in a discord, and the immediate response was someone accusing me of having Sasha as my favorite character they were right, but still lmao
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# ? May 5, 2021 16:19 |
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longer version of Heartstomper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Lrf8zk9JY also while I'm at it, even though this one is direct from the episode, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfB68nb94Wc
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# ? May 5, 2021 16:36 |
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Trailer for the upcoming Rugrats reboot: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w9qvm5H5Zto
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:02 |
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Larryb posted:Trailer for the upcoming Rugrats reboot: Is it just me or is the lip synch/mouth animation weirdly bad? The character designs look pretty good, especially given the challenge of translating Klasky-Csupo's notoriously weird/lumpy character designs into 3D and, despite the relatively low framerate, the actual animation looks pretty decent...But then whenever the characters start talking it just looks like they've been shot up with Novocain.
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:39 |
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That looks real poo poo
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:45 |
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new voice actor for Stu doesn't sound depressed and as a mid-30s male I cannot associate with this character the way I can with OG Stu
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:54 |
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Seems like they may have aged Susie down a bit for this as well (in the original she was the same age as Angelica I believe but here she both looks and sounds like one of the babies)
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# ? May 6, 2021 01:35 |
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The animation just looks horrible. The animation for original Rugrats degraded as the show went on, but early on it was notable for having a really developed and unique animation style. Seems like a bad decision to make this look so crummy.
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# ? May 6, 2021 01:45 |
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RIP Kimi, you just were one too many characters for the show dynamics I guess. Maybe Chuckie's dad needs to stay sadder than Stu. Show looks bad, but I don't know how much of that is just me having soured on a lot of the original premise of Rugrats. Animation's not good either. Also RIP Christine Cavanaugh.
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# ? May 6, 2021 01:54 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:RIP Kimi, you just were one too many characters for the show dynamics I guess. Maybe Chuckie's dad needs to stay sadder than Stu. I'd stopped watching the show regularly by the time Kimi came along, didn't she end up basically just being "Another Tommy, but this one is a girl"? Either way, I feel like she was a better addition to the cast than loving Dil and his complete lack of personality or consequence. The one thing I can really hand to All Grown Up is that it managed to make Dil an actually worthwhile character.
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# ? May 6, 2021 04:29 |
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Kimi felt like she could have had a point given the Finster's arc up til that point - two guys who have become each other's sole source of emotional strength after the loss of their wife/mother, one falling into a stable but depressive rut and the other developing an early sense of responsibility due to being the only one there for his father meet people that fill the void that has been in their lives in the form of a stepmother/sister and allow Chuckie to finally explore his childhood and bring Charles senior out of his rut and get him interacting with other people outside his small circles could have been an interesting direction. Dil was just a weird outlier, the only baby who couldn't talk due to some odd inconsistency where somehow he's too young to be able to form cogent thoughts while other babies of his age in the movie can clearly express themselves fine. He existed solely for the pun.
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:01 |
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Dil's place in the social dynamic did at least make sense as a thing that a lot of kids have to experience. It didn't make sense how he was somehow too young to talk to babies who were themselves too young to actually tall (and didn't even stick to internal logic in the movie). I don't really remember the Kimi episodes either, maybe I had stopped watching by then. I think I liked the second movie better than the first one, but what I remember most strongly are the songs from a computer game vaguely based on the first movie. A little typing-tutor rhythm game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF6HiQZB-po https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgxWYLJhBk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVvYtiy4RI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbfoPOwt7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmDrSgtKcI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_G_tTpJM9w
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:05 |
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Dil was a large part of what killed my interest in the series as a kid (though I’ve heard Kimi was ok and that the former gets a little better in All Grown Up where he finally gets to be a proper character). And yeah, it’s weird that Dil and Dil alone couldn’t talk beyond a few select words. So far I’m not impressed with the remake but maybe they’ll surprise us somehow. Do we know when this is officially supposed to start?
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:25 |
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for some reason this conversation reminds me of an old 70s puppet cartoon called The Herbs that was very cute. There was an excitable dog called Dill, a friendly lion called Parsley, an idiot hunter/nobleman and his frustrated wife known as Basil and Rosemary. IIRC they also all had aspects of the herb as part of their design, like Parsley's mane was made of parsley. It had the best late start character too - in one episode Parsley finds a nest with an egg in it. Because he's still a lion he attacks the nest, using it as a chew toy and gets yelled at by Rosemary for being a twat. Then the egg hatches, and out comes TARRAGON THE loving DRAGON. Then he joined the main cast from then on, although my grandma only had some episode collections on VHS so I didn't see that many. That was a memorable moment for me though. :P It was the same grandma that had episodes of Captain Zed and the Zee Zone, which I watched on youtube last year, and has held up alarmingly well although a lot of the later episodes are really poor quality due to release limitations (it only aired briefly and only a few episodes came out to VHS, anything else you'd have to have got lucky with people taping it themselves and unforunatly that didn't happen enough for half the episodes to survive. Most of season 1 is intact though, and good enough quality to the watchable)
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:34 |
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I was never a huge fan of Rugrats (though I watched every episode out of some bizarre brand loyalty of Nickelodeon?) but yeah that preview looks like hot garbage.Sockser posted:new voice actor for Stu doesn't sound depressed and as a mid-30s male I cannot associate with this character the way I can with OG Stu Yeah he doesn't sound like he's lost control of his life.
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:38 |
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Dil was not great but was a super great wildcard in All Grown Up Kimi, and Rugrats in Paris in general, were leagues better, though IIRC Kimi didn’t do much in All Grown Up? And I don’t remember the crossover Wild Thornberries movie at all, and with Tim Curry in his current state I hope they do not try to reboot/sequel/live action/whatever it
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:55 |
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wild thornberries crossover was great. Better than the first movie, worse than in paris
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# ? May 6, 2021 07:55 |
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when rugrats came back the first time around after being cancelled in 1998 or whatever, the new animation style turned me off, and i really didn't like a lot of the plots for the episodes, but occasionally watched it if i had nothing better to do. but i tapped out entirely by the time dil showed up. what i find really interesting is how long the show continued, long after the reboot, long after dil, and long after even kimi. hell, even that All Grown Up show lasted a good minute (edit: FIVE goddamned seasons! ). BioEnchanted posted:On a non-amphiba related note, I'm at the end of the Freeza saga in Super and love that Dragonball's heaven and hell are basically switched. The heroes got to go to hell and play with the Oni, which only happened if they screwed up, and with the exception of Cell, the villains go to Heaven because Yemma knows they'll hate it. this isn't really related to what you're talking about, but i suddenly realized something weird from the original freeza saga. when goku is collecting energy for the spirit bomb, he says namek doesn't have nearly enough cause freeza and his men killed almost everyone, so he has to use the energy from the stars surrounding planet namek. but..stars don't have life energy either! i'm actually pissed that it took me this long to notice that!
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# ? May 6, 2021 08:10 |
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Maybe a mistranslation - maybe they meant the Star Systems surrounding Namek, other habited planets? Actually DB Super just made me aware of something fun - wishing for immortality for a mortal like a Saiyan is actually a bad idea in the long run. A Saiyan needs their zenkai boosts to get significantly stronger, and any kind of training on top of that to make their bodies more powerful. The way training works is that it damages the muscles by overtaxing them so that they heal stronger. With an immortal body, they can't be beaten half to death so they can't get the Zenkai boosts, and training would probably not do anything because there would be no way to get their muscles stronger if they can't break them down and replenish them. As Goku Black puts it, they need a body that can keep getting stronger as long as they wish it to, and an immortal body would make that harder. Vegeta would have been unkillable certainly, but he also wouldn't have been able to do any damage to the likes of Cell and Buu. It would just be an eternal stalemate.
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# ? May 6, 2021 08:20 |
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Every time I hear that a new show will be CGI I die a little inside. Unless you are willing to dedicate significant time and resources to the project (which most of these shows don’t do because CGI is supposed to be the cheap alternative to 2D animation) the result will probably look like poo poo. Just make normal cartoons damnit!
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# ? May 6, 2021 17:10 |
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Isn't 95% of the 2D animation CGI nowadays? Maybe I don't understand the vernacular.
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# ? May 6, 2021 17:20 |
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https://twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/1390335806565453825?s=19
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:03 |
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hosed up that CGI cartoons still have not surpassed Jimmy Neutron.
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:25 |
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Ariza posted:Isn't 95% of the 2D animation CGI nowadays? Maybe I don't understand the vernacular. So there's two main kinds of popular animation: Traditional, where each frame is hand drawn (either on paper or on a computer) and then compiled together, and computer-generated, where models are created and moved around within a computer generated environment, almost like a puppet show. Both have their own benefits and drawbacks, but typically it's easier to do traditional animation on the cheap without looking like complete garbage, while CG requires more of a budget to look good.
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:28 |
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Are there actually still animations where every single frame is drawn? At the very least, the backgrounds in a still shot would be copy pasted, while the moving parts would appear as a layer.
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:41 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:At the very least, the backgrounds in a still shot would be copy pasted, while the moving parts would appear as a layer. That's how it worked even when computers weren't involved, with the backgrounds being a separate drawing
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:46 |
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What's the name for the thing where if a part of the background were going to change in some way, like say if a character were going to burst through a wall in the background in the middle of a scene, that part of the background would be a slightly different color or look different from the rest? I swear there's a name for that, but I can't find a concise enough way to name it for a google search.
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:48 |
Five-Second Spoiler Stones?
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:55 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:What's the name for the thing where if a part of the background were going to change in some way, like say if a character were going to burst through a wall in the background in the middle of a scene, that part of the background would be a slightly different color or look different from the rest? I swear there's a name for that, but I can't find a concise enough way to name it for a google search. I've seen it listed as a "conspicuously light patch" or a "Fudd flag" on TVTropes, but I think that's just some of their weirdly insular, site-specific terminology rather than an industry term. My favorite variant was in some of the old Coyote/Roadrunner shorts where the Coyote would be interacting with a background element painted on a cel and it would cause the matte painting background to fall away instead...
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:57 |
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That's just because a cel is inked & painted differently than a background which would either be watercolored or dry brushed. There was pretty much no way around it with TV deadlines.
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# ? May 6, 2021 18:58 |
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Some modern cartoons still do the "object that will be interacted with is clearly not part of the background" thing even when the technology used should make that obsolete.
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