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TwoPair posted:It wasn't the best movie ever but it pretty good and tried something different, which is more than I can say for a TF movie for almost 20 years now. Transformers One's problem was that it was arguably the best Transformers movie ever produced, but it was destined for Demographic Hell from its very inception because its real target audience wasn't Gen Z and Gen Alpha children and teenagers but 35-45 year old Millennial Transformer fans and that's not a big enough market to carry a film by itself. So it was a quality product delivered to a nice audience. It deserved better but there was no realistic way it would ever get that. The consolation is that it doesn't really need a sequel because there's literally the entire canon of Transformers that exists to be its sequel.
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The other problems with Transformers One are: • It's built on top of a god-awful brand bible that was stale back in 2010 when it was new. Did you know that only one of the original 13 Primes was a woman, and that's why girl transformers are rare? But "combining" and "being small" don't get to be genders I guess. • Fully half of the core four cast add nothing to the film (mostly not funny, no character growth, mediocre performances, no real relationships to D-16). • Megatron's "right but too much" heel turn is completely undermined by Bee's knife-hands murder spree and the sheer evil of Sentinel Prime's mutilation-and-slavery scheme. Why does Optimus give a poo poo about stopping Megatron? Why does he care that Sentinel is executed when they all happily slaughtered dozens of Vehicons in the preceding five minutes? Because the lore bible says they have a falling-out. It's a very pretty film with good performances from Hemsworth, Henry, and Hamm, but it's also clearly a film that was basically in the can before they even brought in a director. Much like Transformers Prime before it, it has all the signifiers of high quality and care, but those signifiers are really hollow.
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The ending definitely had about 15 minutes cut from the runtime.
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my live action mlp idea. Discord snaps his fingers and the gang get teleported to the star trek universe, discord meets Q and some super dimensional problems happen. science and friendship saves the day.
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DoctorWhat posted:The other problems with Transformers One are: The problem wasn't simply a "it's wrong to kill" thing, it was specifically a "it's wrong to kill someone who's been beaten and isn't fighting back" thing(Sentinel had been subdued when D-16 tried to kill him), that's why the film doesn't present them killing Vehicon troopers as being bad, cause those are actively trying to kill them so it's self defense
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's extremely logical to make something new to put more life into the franchise now that the Friendship is Magic has run its course, its spinoffs have run their course, and the last entry into the franchise ran its course. They're still selling the toys in stores, and plenty of little girls are still into horses, that's why the Spirit franchise is still going on in the background. Making something new to revitalize a franchise is logical. Mindlessly copying something that got results for other companies without thinking through whether it's right for you? Not so much. My Little Pony has always relied on a healthy dose of cartoon logic to work - I can't imagine translating it to photorealistic CGI horses without it looking as cringe-worthy as the version 1.0 of CGI Sonic. As for Transformers One, one problem there is that its story is pretty well self-contained, and ended at a point where a "sequel" would essentially just be a remake of where the Transformers franchise started.
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If they wanted to do live action MLP so bad, why didn’t they just do Equestria Girls? Face paint can’t be that expensive these days.
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nine-gear crow posted:Transformers One's problem was that it was arguably the best Transformers movie ever produced, but it was destined for Demographic Hell from its very inception because its real target audience wasn't Gen Z and Gen Alpha children and teenagers but 35-45 year old Millennial Transformer fans and that's not a big enough market to carry a film by itself. So it was a quality product delivered to a nice audience. It deserved better but there was no realistic way it would ever get that. Well that simply can't be correct because if Hasbro was making something for Millennial Transformers fans I would have gotten something Beast Wars related in the past 20 goddamn years besides another lovely Bayformers movie where the Autobots still take center stage!
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TwoPair posted:Well that simply can't be correct because if Hasbro was making something for Millennial Transformers fans I would have gotten something Beast Wars related in the past 20 goddamn years besides another lovely Bayformers movie where the Autobots still take center stage! They made a whole line of Beast Wars remake toys starting back in 2021 that has now covered the entire season one cast, plus Tigerhawk, TM2 Megatron, and Quickstrike next year. You can still get most of them at reasonable prices or check out the Takara premium repaints.
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DoctorWhat posted:They made a whole line of Beast Wars remake toys starting back in 2021 that has now covered the entire season one cast, plus Tigerhawk, TM2 Megatron, and Quickstrike next year. You can still get most of them at reasonable prices or check out the Takara premium repaints. Not to mention a fair few non show figures(almost all recolors or minor remolds admittedly but still a lot more than I think anyone really expected) and even a couple Japanese Beast Wars guys As well as some figures outside of Beast Wars proper that would fit in just fine(such as the fossil guys, the two Jurassic Park Dinosaur figures, and even most recently Sky-Byte's new figure*) *which if it doesn't get repainted into Transmetal 2 Cyber-Shark I will be legitimately surprised
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Guys, I'm scared. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5x8jpiOsg
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On an unrelated note I just happened to see the "copycat" episode of Bluey (I'm doing it to study Japanese, I swear. Don't judge me!) and am now outright furious at how good this show capable of being. It's actually about Bluey and her dad finding an injured bird and taking it to the vet. Where any other preschool show would have there be some tension for a while and then have the bird be fine at the end, Bluey does the opposite and has the bird not survive it's injuries at the halfway point and then have the second half of the episode be about dealing with grief. In an absolutely crushing attempt to cope with what she experienced Bluey recreates the day with her sister (hence the title) and when it comes time for the bird to die in the vet's office the episode takes a second incredible swerve. You assume that Bluey wants to recreate the day with a happy ending but when her mom (pretending to be the vet) tries to do this Bluey rejects it and asks her mom to proceed the way things actually went. Then in yet another twist Bluey's sister didn't get the message and starts running around as if she were healed anyway. So the two sit watching Bluey's sister pretend to be a bird, and Bluey realizes that sometimes you just don't have a say in how things play out, either way. I am now emotionally destroyed, the end. It's such a mature take on some incredibly heavy subject matter and this show designed to teach toddlers about sharing handled it better than 99% of shows aimed at adults. How does this even happen?? readingatwork fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Aug 14, 2025 |
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readingatwork posted:On an unrelated note I just happened to see the "copycat" episode of Bluey (I'm doing it to study Japanese, I swear. Don't judge me!) and am now outright furious at how good this show capable of being. Bluey isn’t a Japanese show (or do you mean you’re watching it dubbed for the sake of your studies?)
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Larryb posted:Bluey isn’t a Japanese show (or do you mean you’re watching it dubbed for the sake of your studies?) Yes, I’ve been watching it dubbed into Japanese. The language is simple, grounded and based around useful topics while the show itself is MUCH less obnoxious than other shows at my language level. Plus the episodes are short which makes them good for 30-45 min study sessions.
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DoctorWhat posted:They made a whole line of Beast Wars remake toys starting back in 2021 that has now covered the entire season one cast, plus Tigerhawk, TM2 Megatron, and Quickstrike next year. You can still get most of them at reasonable prices or check out the Takara premium repaints. I wasn't talking about the toys I meant a show or a movie or something, I just said Hasbro since I know they're trying to do their own movie biz now with the MLP stuff. The toys are neat though, I might have to check them out. I remember having TM1 Cheetor back in the day and it was like my favorite toy.
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Copycat doesn’t even register for the emotionally devastating episodes. Wait until you get to Grandad, Baby Race, Onesies, or The Sign.
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readingatwork posted:Yes, I’ve been watching it dubbed into Japanese. The language is simple, grounded and based around useful topics while the show itself is MUCH less obnoxious than other shows at my language level. Plus the episodes are short which makes them good for 30-45 min study sessions. I used to do this with dubbed Simpsons episodes on niko-niko douga
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Watched the new Peanuts Musical special on ATV+ (because of course I did, just look at my av) and it was... pretty OK I guess. Credit where it's due the songs which, while not amazing, are good/well performed enough to justify their existence and not drag down the entire thing. I also really appreciated a certain stylistic choice they made during a flashback (Drawing the cast in their 1950s style, which is something I've wanted to see for ages), which knocked the whole special up a peg for me. Kind of annoyed that Charlie Brown kind of steals Sally's movie halfway through though. That was kind of a weird choice plot-wise. It's kind of unfair to the special that I watched it right after that Bluey episode because while they both deal with similar themes of the inevitability of loss but Bluey handles the topic in a much more interesting way by actually having the main character lose the thing they love and dealing with the feelings that creates while the Peanuts special takes the safe route and has the kids save the summer camp at the end. Which, in addition to being predictable and boring, is also very off-brand for Peanuts in general. I'm not ~mad~ about it really since the special is going for a much lighter tone but I couldn't help thinking the whole time how much more impactful the 12 minute show for literal babies was. So yeah, probably a solid "B". It's worth watching if you like Peanuts stuff. readingatwork fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Aug 15, 2025 |
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Tubi now has more Looney Tunes than HBO Max ever did; https://x.com/AnimationOnMax/status/1956345831725887556?t=UxobZgfcuUyxxAkX10at8w&s=19 https://vxtwitter.com/AnimationOnMax/status/1956345831725887556?t=UxobZgfcuUyxxAkX10at8w&s=19
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Also apparently Seth Rogen’s Darkwing Duck revival is still alive, Jim Cummings recently dropped a bit of story info (it’ll be a sequel series about Drake coming out of retirement and an adult Gosalyn) https://x.com/DTVANews/status/1957615790779445717
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readingatwork posted:Watched the new Peanuts Musical special on ATV+ (because of course I did, just look at my av) and it was... pretty OK I guess. Charlie Brown losing the spelling bee was probably a top-five formative moment for me and a key step in informing the philosophy I have carried with me my entire life.
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Larryb posted:Also apparently Seth Rogen’s Darkwing Duck revival is still alive I'm sure it'll be fine, but it's still an odd choice after Ducktales jumped through so many hoops to make sure they wouldn't have to do a legacy sequel.
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Inkspot posted:I'm sure it'll be fine, but it's still an odd choice after Ducktales jumped through so many hoops to make sure they wouldn't have to do a legacy sequel. Shame that none of the Ducktales staff are involved with this either (kind of sounds like Cummings will be returning at least, wonder if anybody else will come back as well) I forget, are any DW actors no longer with us and/or retired besides Christine Cavanaugh? Edit: Tino Insano (Bushroot) has also passed away and Jack Angel (Liquidator) is gone as well Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Aug 20, 2025 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:Charlie Brown losing the spelling bee was probably a top-five formative moment for me and a key step in informing the philosophy I have carried with me my entire life. "A Boy Named Charlie Brown" is so freaking good. It basically looks directly at the audience and asks "Do ~you~ hate Charlie Brown for losing the spelling be?", and since you can't help but respect him at that point the answer is obviously "No, he rules actually", which in a very subtle but compelling way proves the movie's thesis statement that trying your best at something is admirable even if you don't succeed in the end. Which is a much, much more important lesson for kids than having him win in the end would have been. readingatwork fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Aug 20, 2025 |
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Inkspot posted:I'm sure it'll be fine, but it's still an odd choice after Ducktales jumped through so many hoops to make sure they wouldn't have to do a legacy sequel. An alleged version of the DT17 guys' pitch bible for Darkwing Duck got leaked on Reddit a while back and having read it, I struggle to think why it wasn't picked up because (if it was the real deal and not a very elaborate fake) it was basically the perfect follow up to DuckTales and actually made an interesting pitch for a show as opposed to a legacy sequel. The only explanation I can come up with is that this was the era in which Bob Chapek was taking a chainsaw to Disney Animation and serving as the prelude to/how-to guide for David Zaslav's animation massacre, who was still just a vague terror on the horizon at that point.
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readingatwork posted:"A Boy Named Charlie Brown" is so freaking good. It basically looks directly at the audience and asks "Do ~you~ hate Charlie Brown for losing the spelling be?", and since you can't help but respect him at that point the answer is obviously "No, he rules actually", which in a very subtle but compelling way proves the movie's thesis statement that trying your best at something is admirable even if you don't succeed in the end. Which is a much, much more important lesson for kids than having him win in the end would have been. I think that might also be the only non print Peanuts media where Snoopy actually “talks” (he had thought balloons in the comics but for some reason in the animated shows/movies/specials he just made dog noises) Edit: Nevermind, I was confusing that with “You’re a Good Man” Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Aug 20, 2025 |
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Much as I appreciate that the Ducktales people wanted to do callbacks to all of Disney's older TV shows, and the show overall was good, I didn't like their take on Darkwing Duck. They were playing him straight as just a dramatic superhero story instead of doing some kind of spoof like the original. At time when there's already a lot of plain straightforward superhero stories and we could really use something making fun of that instead of just having another one.I AM GRANDO posted:Charlie Brown losing the spelling bee was probably a top-five formative moment for me and a key step in informing the philosophy I have carried with me my entire life. That was something I really liked in Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas as well.
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The showrunner of Ducktales posted his pitch for a Rescue Rangers reboot to Twitter and I liked it a lot; I think he said in the same tweet thread that it was rejected in favor of that movie that came out. It's a shame, because their ideas for tying it in to The Rescuers and The Great Mouse Detective sounded like a lot of fun.
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There really is a vibe that Disney only bedgrudgingly tolerates 2D animation as a legacy business.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There really is a vibe that Disney only bedgrudgingly tolerates 2D animation as a legacy business. I watched a video on the other day about why Disney won't learn anything from K-Pop Demon Hunters and it's not so much 'won't' as 'can't' because actual animated musicals are really name only now.
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So it looks like StuGo has come to Disney plus, it seems pretty fun so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPZqtkifYH4
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Yvonmukluk posted:So it looks like StuGo has come to Disney plus, it seems pretty fun so far. Saw some clips of it a while back and it's got some good absurdist humor to it. I love that shot in the first few seconds that's split between the flamingos and the
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Pokémon Concierge dropped four more episodes and it remains the cutest show in the whole wide world
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Is the dialogue writing and voice direction any better this batch? The first season was so brand management -poisoned it was like nails on a chalkboard to me.
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Can’t speak to the voice direction as I watch it in Japanese, but I thought the dialogue was perfectly good. I’m not expecting much from it other than fluff anyways though so ymmv
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I found the way that brand proper nouns were... handled? in the first batch to be totally intolerable, like a trademark lawyer had guns to the heads of absolutely everyone involved in writing and performing.
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https://twitter.com/sesamestreet/status/1963602962703683996
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readingatwork posted:Wylde Pak on Nickelodeon. I finally checked this out and it's really good. Funny, enthusiastic, and doesn't talk down to its audience. Really easy to like.
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I've been revisiting the Ben 10 franchise because I really wanna try writing a reimagining of it and I freaking forgot about this![]() ![]() These are supposed to be members of the same species Derrick Wyatt was a brilliant character designer but he absolutely fell short when it came to designing women And he should never have turned Ghostfreak's skull right side up, dammit!
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The frog aliens were a funny one since the Omnitrix version looks so different from the random mook ones, supposedly because the Omnitrix alien forms are the peak of form for their species (basically their Captain America) while the mooks were according to the writers impoverished and malnourished to the point it stunted their growth. But mind you, Ben 10 is nowhere near even the worst offender with this extremely common problem. Look at 99% of anime.
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