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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

DoctorWhat posted:

Man the new Magic School Bus might end up being better Doctor Who than Doctor Who.

I bet there are so many Dr Who/Magic School Bus mash-up t-shirts.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Crabtree posted:

The show needed one kid to not be up for weird transformations and insane alternative learning. Otherwise you'd just have a bunch of idiots happily turning into whatever until the Friz almost gets them killed for the fifth time this week.

Remember the time that Arnold got so fed up with Miss Frizzle's bullshit that he killed himself in protest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGs77kOT9Kk

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

raditts posted:

Hahahaha, what the gently caress? I wish I hadn't been too old to watch that show when it came out.

I guess I could watch it on Netflix with my kids, but considering one of them saw part of a Futurama episode where the Professor had an internal organ replaced with a Manwich and freaked out for like a week that the same thing might have happened to him, I should probably hold off for a while.

Arnold freezing himself on Pluto and the Gooey Gus storyline on Ghost Writer were responsible for roughly 90% of my generations public-television-fueled nightmares.

The other 10% is people who are terrified by old logos and production companies.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
A Pup Named Scooby Doo was awful. Even as a kid with zero critical capacity it and all the other kiddified versions of classic cartoons (aside from Muppet Babies and Tiny Toons) put me to sleep.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
I was pleasantly surprised when I hopped onto Cartoon Brew to read about the firing and the comments were overwhelming positive and the few MRA types were shouted down. I stopped hanging out in the animation community years ago because it was just one giant pile of :goonsay: but it's refreshing to see animation fans being so positive.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

HorseRenoir posted:

This Skyler Page stuff just keeps getting sadder and sadder. Sounds like dude has some serious issues.





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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Zeether posted:

The creator of Megas XLR and Titmouse have a new show coming to Nick called Prodigal. Hopefully it doesn't end up with the same fate as Motorcity. http://gojira-senpai.tumblr.com/post/66052506641/so-titmouse-is-making-a-new-mecha-series-for

I'm torn. Literally the only good thing about Motorcity was the art and Megas XLR was just the same joke told over and over so I hope they learned some new tricks since then.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
I have never seen a picture of Dan Schneider with the cast of his shows that didn't look like it belonged in a police folder labelled "Exhibit A"











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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

raditts posted:

It's mostly a matter of manchildren watching a cartoon with light adult themes that are about as subtle as the ones in Animaniacs and acting like they're loving academics for pointing these things out.

The difference is that Animaniacs made fun of the obsessive nerds while Adventure Time is staffed by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtmdHiCJNY

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

thelaughingman posted:

I must have hit a nerve or something. It is just hard to watch a show with characters that look and move like they came out of one of those CAD shorts. The voice work is hard to tolerate as well sometimes and I could really do without the sister and her boyfriend.

P&F is a cute show but the visual design of the titular characters is pretty bad and doesn't fit in with the rest of the cast an all. Also taking them into 3d is horrific.



:pwn:

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Korra is a really disappointing show because it has an older target audience and rather than using that to have more complex stories and themes and more thrilling action means lovely love triangles and teen angst.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a bad show but over the course of 5 episodes it went from being one of my most anticipated shows of the year to me not even being assed to watch it live anymore.

Though even if you skip it the season 2 two-parter about the origin of the Avatar is worth watching even on its own. It's like a short, TV-budget Studio Ghibli movie.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
BUNS KETCHUP PICKLE CHEESE

PUT THAT PATTY IN BETWEEN

IT'S BURGER!

WHAT WHAT

IT'S BURGER!

WHAT WHAT

-A Good Show

Dangerous Person posted:

I couldn't get into Teen Titans when I was younger. It felt like they tried way too hard with the anime stuff.

Even if it's grating now I appreciate what they were going for because it did do a good job getting a lot of kids (including myself :sweatdrop:) to watch a DC comics show when anime and manga were hitting peak saturation after Pokemon pushed it into the mainstream.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Gann Jerrod posted:

The Toy Story of Terror TV special is coming to DVD soon, and they're adding fake commercials where the actual commercials went, including this pitch perfect PSA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i72NOK_5XhM

Pixar animators getting to beard out over old-school animation is always so great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JxsZEZPkYE

DivisionPost posted:

Don't...

Don't...

Can't... Take... The bait...

So old... But...


OH poo poo GET THE gently caress OUT god dammit

The fact that GI Joe PSA parodies are still great going on 30 years is amazing. Almost as amazing as the fact that Community made an entire episode making fun of GI Joe and it wasn't as good as this single 45 second short :troll:

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

First Bass posted:

Batman Beyond and Code Lyoko are both very much products of times when they were made. BB has aged better mostly on account of Dini's strong art style and, I hate to say it, "mature" writing relative to the earlier BTAS, but it's still what people from the 90's (though the show ran from '99 to '01) thought the future would look like, so get ready for lots of cyberpunk! If you can stand that, I imagine you'll get about the same mileage as you would from any of the other DC animated shows. I liked it, anyways.

Batman Beyond exists in this weird place where it tries to be mature but at the same time comes off as juvenile because every other episode is a Very Special Episode where Terry learns that steroids are bad or furries are evil.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

raditts posted:

At least the steroid episode let you see what Bane looked like after decades on the juice.

That was the other big weakness in Batman Beyond, Terry's rogue gallery never measured up to Bruce's. The best villains were the ones from the original BTAS showing up again, like Mr Freeze being an immortal disembied head and the Return of the Joker movie.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

First Bass posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMXjtvMAFlI

I think the Batman Beyond intro speaks for itself. :smugbert:

It always slays me how sandwiched between all that grim and edgy there's an extended shot of teenagers dancing like a 60s beach movie.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
It's odd because S&P is more lax than ever. Like, Gravity Falls is on Disney Channel and they can get away with actually saying "death" and "die" and having monsters take hatchets to the gut, considering that Batman Beyond had to have the screen flash to hide the actual impact of punches and a decade ago anime infamously had to hide references to death behind things like "sent to the shadow realm" we're in a whole new ballpark.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Plus the demographics have shifted, live-action shows like Arrow are making DC way more money than animated fare. And when every kid on the planet sees The Avengers in theaters it renders an animated series superfluous at best.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Sci-fi inherently has a regressive streak to it, some of the genre's most notable entries boil down to old white English teachers whining about how these kids these days are going to be the downfall of society what with their teevees:bahgawd:

Batman Beyond was relatively benign in that for every episode about how drugs are bad and body modification is for squares it had episodes about how the school-to-prison pipeline is really hosed up and how profiling criminals doesn't work.

e: Also the episodes with Willy Watt called out the whole "nice guy" phenomena a decade before Reddit even existed, so kudos on that.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Saturday morning cartoons died in the early 90s when Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon came to prominence. The entire reason why saturday morning cartoons existed was because it was the only time of day that it was profitable for network television to show programming for children, the rest of the time it was programming aimed at families and adults with the odd after-school programming. It's also why seasonal animated specials like the Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer hold so much sway in our collective consciousness, up until that point showing cartoons for kids in a primetime slot was a big deal and aside from the odd animated sitcom like The Flintstons adult-oriented cartoon sitcoms wouldn't get really big until The Simpsons came along. Even the resurgence of popularity in the 80s with shows like He-Man, GI Joe, and Transformers was more due to laws regulating children's programming and advertising being loosened than anything else.

When cable started getting big in the late 80s and early 90s that was the beginning of the end for Saturday morning cartoons, because they no longer had to be relegated to that narrow window of time when expanding media outlets meant that you could have cartoons on at all times. Even if they technically continued to exist until the mid-00s if you asked a kid in the mid-90s what their favorite cartoons were they'd doubtlessly cite Nicktoons and Cartoon Network's programming.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

icantfindaname posted:

All I remember about Transformers was watching Armada/the anime one when I was 10 or 11 years old. Was that show any good? (I suspect I know the answer)

Considering the sheer volume of Transformers media that's been made over the years the signal/noise ratio is shockingly low. Like aside from Beast Wars almost nothing has met any sort of real universal acclaim, it's always been a toy commercial that never really elevated itself and just jumped on whatever was popular and selling well at the time (copying Pokemon with Armada, aping Teen Titans with Transformers Animated, more recently cannibalizing the popularity of their own live-action movies with Transformers: Prime).

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
The art style also definitely feels like "Adventure Time, BUT..." in a way that I don't know nearly enough about art criticism to actually describe.

Like if Stephen Universe was "Adventure Time, but anime", this is "Adventure Time, but English picture books".

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Russel in Up was not only voiced by an actual child but an actual asian-american, which is a twofer in animation.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Mimir posted:

This is not actually bad news, because it has no bearing on whether the show will be picked up. It's just not getting a fully-made pilot, which is actually a pretty sensible cost-cutting measure.

Especially if it ends up like Gravity Falls or Stephen Universe where they change the art style from pilot to series and the pilot is relegated to a :filez: oddity.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Ofaloaf posted:

Goddamn, I've been reading up more on Over The Garden Wall, and I only just realized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmORatsGUC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUlKPthrag

That's the same loving singer

And the composer of the Love Boat theme? Also on Cartoon Network.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vst6DXDnzKw

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

icantfindaname posted:

I don't know, I'm not quite as enamored of the current crop of CN shows as a lot of people, but they're definitely as good as anything else on the list of Respectable Art Not For Kids Anymore western cartoons, or even, god forbid, animes (FLCL is still my favorite animated show, bite me :japan:) I like the way things are going with Kickstarter and miniseries, maybe they can revive the OVA as a format

That said though what's still missing is theatrical traditional animation, it doesn't look like that's going to rise from the grave anytime soon unfortunately. Maybe it hasn't been long enough since Disney stopped to expect people to take it up again, but animated TV just can't really do the same things movies can

There's probably a thesis to be written in how anime and western animation went in completely opposite directions around the same time, with anime becoming more pandering and narrow until catering to literal pedophiles became the norm while western animation became more accessible and open to outside demographics to huge success.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

ConanThe3rd posted:

Slam Dunk Gay Joke? They made a joke about Slam Dunk? :confused:

The entire movie is a parable about why persecuting people for being different is bad, and then at the end when Norman's sister finally works up the nerve to ask the jock from school she's been crushing on for the entire movie out to see a chick flick he says that it sounds fun and that his boyfriend loves chick flicks. It's a great gag and also immediately drives home the movie's theme, the fact that it pissed off so many Christians is just icing.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Gann Jerrod posted:

I'm on my fifth straight year of boycotting Christmas specials because they refuse to air the Garfield Christmas Special.

But there never was a Garfield christmas special? :crossarms:

https://vimeo.com/8689159

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
The Proud Family was a pretty forgettable show but as :rolleyes:-worthy as the episode's premise was, the Kwanza episode ruled because as a kid it was the only holiday special I'd ever seen that actually portrayed Christmas as shallow and unsatisfying commercialism in a way that was true to life.

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Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Crabtree posted:

Why in god's name did CN choose Christmas of all times to bring back Johnny Test? Or choose to make the entire 25th nothing but the worst modern cartoon from Canada?

In America, Christmas day is more or less a ratings black hole which is why most TV shows stop airing new episodes from the middle of December until after New Years. The Christmas Day marathon is probably the cheapest and most unceremonious way of dumping a bunch of new episodes out without interfering with their programming.

Mr Interweb posted:

You know what show I used to like but have kinda soured on as it went on? Adventure Time.

It was a pretty funny show when it started and I loved how it had tons of innuendo for a kids show. But I started getting irritated once they started going overboard with the dumb messageboards/internet references. Sure, making a few jokes here and there regarding internet humor is one thing, but it seems like the writers write them with the mindset of "hey, look! We're making JOKES ABOUT THE INTERNET! Bet all you people who post about things online are gonna talk about a lot and how it's so cool and hip that we're so self-referential eh? EH?"

I agree but the thing is that it totally worked and the people that are still fans are super mega defensive about it, almost on par with :ranbowdash:, so it's a hill that you will die on if you bring it up.

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