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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

horriblePencilist posted:

I mean, we already have :nws: link removed:nws:


Thanks for linking to drawn child porn, boss. Good job on the posting there.

Everyone else: do not click that dude's creepy-rear end link.

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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Sockser posted:

I watched the premiere of Incredible Crew on new year's eve. It was okay. The voice actor for Finn is a pretty cool dude.

This is a lie. Incredible Crew might be the worst variety show I've ever seen.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Glitterbomber posted:

Yea can anyone with better knowledge of the system explain the point of it? It feels like it's a network shooting themselves in the foot by actively avoiding long running brand recognition.

Blah blah doo doo syndication numbers increasing everyone's salary.

And when you look at it from the perspective of "After we hit 80/100 episodes, every subsequent one is gonna cost us double what we were previously paying" it's actually pretty logical and smart to run a hard cap on series.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

raditts posted:



Why would some arbitrary episode number suddenly start costing more to produce?

Union contracts, plus actors realize that every episode they're working on is just for syndication (i.e. it puts tons of money in the studio's pocket) and usually force a contract renegotiation.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Considering Totally Spies was basically a "Weirdo Fetish Bingo" cartoon, no, no you are not

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Have you guys seen the previews for the new Mickey shorts? Because they're great. I'm really excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVo0Zl-bOBI

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Xelkelvos posted:

Caught up on the last few pages and noticed the user ButtercupSaiyan (who was summarily banned) posting. I thought the username was merely coincidence, but the post that earned him his ban basically confirmed that he's the same one who's done numerous pornographic works of cartoon characters at decent or above quality (just look him up on Google. Note: NSFW). I'm actually quite surprised and amused at his appearance, but not :10bux: worth.

Thanks for the update

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

The theme song for Johnny test is a low rent version of green days American idiot

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

MrAristocrates posted:

I heard it was that Canadian networks needed a certain percentage of original Canadian content and so Johnny Test is never, ever going away.

This is true and, coincidentally, there's now a massive porn manufacturing initiative in Canada for the same reason

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Gaunab posted:

She's basically a mariah carey sound a like.

Mariah Carey has a five-octave range, that doesn't really mean anything

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Over the garden wall looks about as interesting as an episode of that nick jr show little bear

Tonally it just seems so...aimless

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

darn where will we go for dated pop culture parodies and forced musical interludes now

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

raditts posted:

This will actually be the second send-off episode, a few months ago my DVR randomly picked up an episode that was set 10 years in the future on their last day of summer before college, which seemed like as good a final episode as any.

I went to watch that episode only because i like time-warp episodes of cartoons and holy poo poo is that episode loving terrible, even by phineas and ferb's standards

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

raditts posted:

I get the feeling you don't like Phineas and Ferb but I'm not quite sure

it's more that i don't like bad shows

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

raditts posted:

But you watch Doctor Who now.


gently caress, you know what? good point, i concede

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

icantfindaname posted:

It's a more or less standard Cartoon Network children's/family sitcom like Clarence or Gumball with good progressive female characters but like 10% of the time it turns into its alter ego which is yuri/lesbian Dragonball Z fanfiction

so, it's bad then

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

MrAristocrates posted:

What about that doesn't sound amazing

"ooh it has lesbians!!!" sounds to me like a bunch of goons jerking themselves off over how progressive and enlightened they are over a kid's show as opposed to realizing that lesbians exist literally everywhere and it's weird and creepy to treat people's sexuality like some liberal version of Pokemon

aka the adventure time defense

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

the point you are mistaking, probably intentionally, is that goons sure do love to bring up and talk about lesbian characters esp in fiction under the auspices of "progressiveness" when really what they're doing is 1) fueling a fetish that 2) gives them the moral high ground to make posts about how it's all about the grander representation in media when they couldn't really give less of a poo poo because boy do they love posting about lesbians!!! again, adventure time

reducing a character to their token sexuality is 1) creepy 2) completely missing the overall aims of representation of different sexualities in media and fetishizing only one aspect of a character 3) probably indicative that the character themselves is nothing to write home about outside of some gimmick like their sexuality being not heteronormative

if you were to take the posts in AT or the SU threads and replace the word "lesbian" with the word "black" it'd put a finer point on how the "progressive" tack is really just a way for goons to cloak their obsession with lesbians

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

frank.club posted:

Toxx you are hosed up my dude

it's hard bein right all the time...:smith:

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Sorry I live in the year 2015 where people are more than the people they like to gently caress!!! maybe you should come over, it's nice to see people as people over a collection of archetypes and fetishes


TwoPair posted:

That's an awful lot of words to say "I'm not actually going to watch this but let me poo poo on your opinions of it"

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

axleblaze posted:

While I do agree that people do make too much of the whole thing, I don't think most are just talking about the characters in terms of the sexuality and that's it. That aspect of SU was only revealed recently and all of the characters were an awesome and overall likable bunch. That whole lesbian thing is minor but it is there but it's also easy to enjoy the show without it.

By the way, I can't speak for everyone but I do actually give a poo poo about representation. I've talked to and read accounts by far too many LBGT people that were desperate to find anyone like them in the media and I am genuinely happy that seems to finally be happening. Entire ways of looking at films exist just to find that aspect where it probably wasn't actually there so I do find it nice for it to actually be there. It's not about lesbians it's just that things like this tend to have an easier time slipping lesbians past the network.

I dunno, it's not like I tend to bring this up on my own. I tend to just respond when people freak the gently caress out about it even being talked about. I mean, yes there are other aspects to talk about and those aspects do get talked about alot. Hell, in something like the AT thread, most of the discussion seemed to more resolve around people trying to deny that this was a thing rather than any actual fetishizing or lingering over the thing. It's just there's still this idea that a heterosexual relationship in a show is normal and fine and anything else is people trying to get their rocks off and I do find that perception genuinely annoying.

you know what this is maybe the first post i've read that doesn't come off as haughty entitled "i'm more enlightened than you" defense of the fact they post about lesbians all the goddamn time, so I'll cede the point

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

deadicons posted:

Just for clarification what are the negative impacts that the fan base had on Korra?

its creation, for one

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Also every single Spiderhyphenman post which is a crime on the level of a lesser genocide

korra is responsible for so many atrocities

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Korra was a good show that everyone had different ideas about how it could realize its amazing potential.

Toxxupation hated it from day one because he thought the lead female character having breasts was meant to appeal to pedophiles.

I hated it because it was a bad show

go tweet that poo poo at the president like you're wont to do

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Reminder that spiderhyphenman literally tweeted at the president because he was so upset about a spiderman comic book story arc

that is a literal thing that literally happened, that goon spiderhyphenman did because he got so mad about drawn people

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

I've never had a thread shut down before

I mean I'm a bad poster, I wont deny that

still haven't tweeted at the president my Opinions, so i got that one

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

if was one more day

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

You can't even remember which one it was.

Also I never got probated for shitposting in a thread about a show I act smugly superior about not watching, so I have that over you.

I was gonna craft a super hot burn in response to this hot fire but the truth is more damning

you tweeted at the president. Mad About Comic Books. That's literally a thing you did.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

TwoPair posted:

On the one hand, ugh, won't they just let it stay dead?

you realize that ben 10 is a merchandising deal that prints money right

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Mr Interweb posted:

So is there anything on the level of Avatar: The Last Airbender on currently?

well, johnny test is p bad, so

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Also the realization is that ATLA was never really that good in the first place, with stuff like Aang meeting a magical frog who allows him to bypass the whole moral conundrum of "should i kill, even when it's justified? even when if i don't then everyone will die because the person I'm fighting has no morals to appeal to?"

energy bending was loving stupid and a loving stupid concept to even play with in the first place because ATLA is a show for kids and they'd never actually show the main character murdering the main antagonist in cold blood, but built the entirety of season 3 around having aang have this deep-seated moral conundrum which the show then completely cheapened by instituting a magical loving frog that magically gave aang a pacifistic option that solved everything

like, the show couldn't and shouldn't have ended with aang killing the fire emperor, but it also should've recognized that by storytelling instead of setting up a binary "either aang kills the emperor or the emperor destroys the world! which is which?! OH WAIT NEVER MIND HERE'S A THIRD OPTION THAT MAGICALLY SOLVES EVERYTHING" been more flexible, you can't set up an "Either A or B Has to Happen" series climax then go "well, actually, C happened", it's poo poo storytelling

there's also stuff like season 3 introducing that aang can't fall in love and keep his avatar powers, emphasizing the theme of self-sacrifice the murder moral conundrum exemplified (what is aang willing to do to stop evil? kill and give up the love of his life?) and then the show inexplicably pairing up aang and katara anyways literally just to please the shippers, ATLA sold out its stakes every step of the way in the final season

korra took all of those problems and exemplified it, and it's why it's so poo poo, it was based on a universe that already sold out its own narrative just, well, just cause and pulled the same narrative tricks over and over and over and over again

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Macaluso posted:

I'm gonna be honest, even now as an adult understanding these are children I sitll don't understand how they kept screwing that up. It literally was 3 pieces!

it was two pieces, really, since the bottom piece had the pipe thing to place the other two pieces on iirc

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

I think the "oh, Korra season 1 just didn't have enough time" allegation is silly because it implies that season one of ATLA was some perfectly conceived and executed thing when it was tonally incoherent and absolutely full of chaff episodes that didn't nothing to further the story or deepen the characters

Like Atla season 1 could've directly benefited from a restricted episode count, because with 20 it felt narratively loose and creatively unfocused a ton of the time

In all honestly Atla season 2 was the only season worthy of the hype the show, in general, gets (season 3 ends the show fairly badly and has that whole section of "zuko hangs out with exactly one person on team avatar" episodes that was mechanically a mess, season 1 is loose and Tonally jarring) and everyone ascribes its qualities to the season preceding and following it

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

yeah, why should anyone complain about a cartoon's politics literally being "there are a specific, minority group of elite people, a one percent if you will, who are naturally better than you just by virtue of their birth and if you push for equality for the common people you're in fact worse than them because of the methods you use revealing your hypocrisy"

i mean i agree there's like a billion things i'd criticize in korra first but its specific insight and perspective is p insipid, inherently flawed, and charged within this political climate and it's pretty loltastic when you think about what it says about the rights or lack thereof of the common people

again, i end up not giving a poo poo mostly because i ascribe its really bad, dumb idiot views to the people running the show being terrible storytellers over right-wing neocons or some poo poo, hanlon's razor and all that, i just think it's funny that it tries to literally put Anonymous/OWS in the show for, i dunno, cultural relevancy or something and didn't think through how to handle it or give its arguments respect at all

it's like i imagine the pitch meeting for it was "but what if...benders were BAD???" "oh man, that's some good morally ambiguous poo poo right there dude, yeah put that poo poo in" "but they're good, right? i mean, our main character and basically everyone she associates with is a bender" "oh, yeah, totes, but wouldn't it be sweet as hell if we asked the question"

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

He's arguing Death of the Author

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

It cannot be overstated how huge of a money-printing machine sonic is

The only weird thing about sonic honestly is that they keep on trying to appeal to their more venerated fans

Like soniccycle.jpg only exists because sega approaches their golden ip where they keep trying to rehabilitate sonics image before being lazy worthless fucks and half-assing it yet again

Honestly I don't know why they do this, they build what are essentially brand new engines for their games they use once or twice before redesigning everything again or switching developers for no loving reason

Honestly if I was segas CEO I would annualize the gently caress out of sonic, focus super heavily on the cartoon tie-ins and lean even more heavy on the mythos while simultaneously making it even more of a shameless DBZ ripoff

Yeah sure gently caress it add hundreds of new furry friends for sonic to interact with, just make it all one completely shameless crash grab supported by some smaller dev house turning out annual sonic games made on the cheap with the exact same mediocre engine year in and out that are all of the same lower quality, bolstered by the fact that sonics dumb fuckin face is plastered everywhere

Rerelease sonics 1-3 all the loving time so kids get essentially suckered in by exposure to both the "good" stuff (sonic 3 and knuckles was the only good one tbh) and the dumb cartoons and poo poo and because kids are morons they'll buy the games and the dolls and the comics and whatever the gently caress else sega dangles in front of their faces that has sonics face on it

It's the fact that sega makes a token effort with sonic that makes it so weird when they could and at this point probably should treat sonic like a licensed property like spongebob that only exists to make money hand over fist by essentially ripping off 8-year-olds

NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jul 15, 2015

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.


This is the show an adventure time thread poster would make

Look! She's lesbian trans! Aren't we progressive! This isn't mawkish and weirdly voyeuristic at all!

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Woah you're trans? That's awesome and now, I will launch into a ready-made speech about how awesome being trans is because that's how humans talk about stuff like that

As opposed to

Woah you're trans? That's cool. *awkward silence initiates due to not knowing how to proceed in the conversation*

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

TwoPair posted:

some people can't stand when a thread is actually good and so we have to have a good old fashioned slapfight about whose tastes are better every now and then, otherwise how will we know we are true goons.

tell me more about lesbians. are there any in stephen unvierse, im confused

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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Acne Rain posted:

yeah there are, it's really shocking.

:holymoley:

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