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Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


TwoPair posted:

Whoa whoa hold the phone. I hadn't heard about that at all and I am now way more excited than I reasonably should be.

A quick google search just shows me this.

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Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


I rather liked Korra, but then I think a large chunk of what is making people unhappy about it is that it's not fitting within expectations. Aang was a rather unique protagonist for actually being properly pacifist, something you don't see too often nowadays and while it's understandable Korra going back to the typical action hero roots of punch now, ask questions later, retreading on a concept similar to Aang would have been a waste of time. Also, it wasn't like that's all there was to Korra. The first season in particular did a great job of foiling who she was, Korra knows she's basically superhuman compared to the rest of the world and revels in it, it only makes sense that her main issues revolve around being reduced to helpless as well as the unfair advantage she was born with.

Also, the romance, while admittedly grating at times, didn't really bother me all that much, mostly because the characters were written their age: As teenagers and young adults. Famous ones in a time period with news coverage to boot, it only make sense that they acted like teenagers and steadily grow out of being, well, petty and melodramatic. It was really no different than the characters from the original series acting their age.

As for the season villains, I'll be honest, out of all four, I liked Unalaq the most, followed by Amon, even if they didn't have morals you could necessarily argue for running behind them. The Avatar series is first and foremost a Wuxia series. When people think of Wuxia, they think of stylish and colorful characters that do kung fu and having a plot driven around that and the nice part about Amon and Unalaq, just like Ozai and Azula, was that they had flair. It's okay to have a villain is just that: an rear end in a top hat with issues. Petty revenge and "gently caress you, I want to be a god" works just fine for me. Zaheer and Kuvira brought their own their set of baggage to the table and for the better, they were all unique and served to help develop not just Korra but the entire cast in their own way.

Not to say I don't think the series had issues, it had a few things that bothered me, the main of which was the ridiculous speed at which technology developed, but that's not a huge deal. But then again, it also has Varrik and Zhu Li, best characters in the series.

Ramos fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jun 29, 2015

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


raditts posted:

Right, so you're arguing Death of the Author.

Moral of the story kids: Killing an entire nation of people will ultimately save the day.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


It's a bit of a blurry mess, but there's boob groping going on.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


raditts posted:

Judging by that trailer, they're banking a lot on "characters being launched through the air / into things" sight gags.

Maybe I'm forgetting a lot of slapstick, but wasn't that generally a go to alongside people getting crushed in the original Looney Toons?

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


axleblaze posted:

I find it expresses it better to just tell someone to pick a random episode, any episode, and count the whipcracks themselves. Out of context like that it just looks weird and having someone pick the episode themselves makes it seem like a weird magic trick you just pulled because there's no way every episode could actually be like that, right?

While they're at it, play the totally safe Johnny Test Drinking Game! Take a sip for every whip crack and try not to die.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


mycot posted:

How does not copying what's popular make it more forced?

It's not that, it's just that the show has yet to really develop any sense of identity. It tries to be wacky with a bunch of bears and some other occasional talking animals doing nonsense on a backdrop of a normal world, it also tries to be deep with a few emotional episodes here and there dealing with the various issues the different bears face.

In practice, it just ends up being largely dull with three caricatures that you know extremely well already (outgoing leader, wimpy geek, and the quiet, competent guy) that you could just replace with three humans and get essentially the same show.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


I don't know, Finn doesn't get ridiculously depressed to the point of trying to draw all attention to his tragedy. When he does get depressed, he just tends to get quieter and deals with all of his problems via active aggression: beating the poo poo out of everything. I mean, yeah, that's not going to be as melodramatic as Pearl basically screaming to the sky about Rose not getting it on with her, but Finn's far from dull. He just keeps it light and on the occasion where violence isn't doing it for him, he gets inquisitive about dealing with his problems, like the time he became Davey.

That said, I got to agree, the show's general character development tries reaching for something big constantly and then just falls flat on its face. In particular, Finn's dad was just put on a one way bus to never coming back and without really any fanfare. The show's never really been big on a singular direction, but if it's trying to go for that with at least few ongoing plots, it needs to get centralized better.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Yeah, no, Scooby Doo has pretty much always been about the Mystery Gang being rather dumb as they stumble their way through poor animation quality to a solution to a mystery that involves a costume monster. The show is probably fine and the dissenters might have outgrown the series' usual main stays.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Corek posted:

They're doing a new Hey Arnold movie, and Nick will be reviving more of its classic shows. They're actually going to resolve the cliffhanger from the end of the series:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/hey-arnold-tv-movie-nickelodeon-reviving-shows-1201646666/

There is no way this is going to live up to expectations after all of these years, but then it's still nice to see how things close out. Also, there's the big elephant in the room of the original movie, I don't particularly remember that one fondly.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Freaking finally. And they open it up with more Gem Homeworld stuff, awesome.

edit: Also, yeah, upon that thread opening up, it's going to be a magnet for just poo poo upon poo poo.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


TwoPair posted:

Well yeah, didn't he wear a spacesuit in the first episode/premier movie?

Or am I thinking of another one?

You're thinking of a different episode where he fought robotic bees in space using a jet pack powered suit.

Look, I'm not creative enough to make up this poo poo.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Nah, I enjoy both of those when they're good and fun and not about, say, Amethyst doing as they do in Rome.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Don't over complicate it, Hihohe will be linking the fan art thread and you guys can post that stuff over there. Plus, the thread is currently traumatized by Touhou as is, so I'm sure an influx of more magical women will be the cure.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


The only thing I remember about Ginger was that it was even uglier than the other Nick shows at the time.

PicklePants posted:

Rocket Power should stay dead. Forever.

This is a good idea.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


He also pined after some girl that sat in front of him and there was an rear end in a top hat jock who picked on him. Wait, am I talking about Doug?

I do recall its name starting with a P.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Honestly, of the shows from Nick 90s that I can think would do well today, only Catdog really comes to mind. The whole black humor and not fitting in a large and strange but lonely world still rings eternally. However, that also wrapped itself up neatly and I wouldn't want to dredge that up.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Toxxupation posted:

By catdog you mean rockos modern life right

Too tightly tied with gross out. Gross out cartoons died with the 90s and the world is a better place now because of that.

Pakled posted:

I feel like The Angry Beavers is timeless enough that it'd go over well today.

Also, this show would be infinitely more popular with the Regular Show type viewers.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


All this talk makes me realize just how once in a lifetime of a cartoon Hey Arnold was. Have we really had anything quite like that targeted directly at kids since? That show really covered a lot of walks of life without really ever glorifying anyone.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Out of curiosity, the one thing I remember from Danny Phantom was that sing along Christmas episode. Was that the pre- or post-Reborn Christian stuff?

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Jack Gladney posted:

For years I thought Doug must have been one of those religious cartoons because it was so bland, but really it's just about a kid with anxiety who just can't stop catastrophizing about everything in his life. You can tell that he grew up into one of those adult nerds who hates women because he was never brave enough to ask one out.

frank.club posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with you people

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


mycot posted:

There was also that incredibly bizarre joke in the body swap episode where Buttercup (in the Professor's body) can't pick anything up because his fingers can't separate.

Fantastic was to lampshade and make canon that the Powerpuff Girls don't have fingers even though the rest of the children did. I wonder if that was done purely for budgeting reasons on the animation.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


raditts posted:

Is that Guardians of the Galaxy cartoon still on? I never watched enough of it to tell if it was good or not.

Wait, that was a thing that happened? What channel did it air on?

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Senerio posted:

Aphrodite
Aphrodite
Aphrodiiiiteeee

"What a relief, all day I have been swamped by goons that cannot get dates for my dance."

edit: Actually, just watch this entire clip.

Ramos fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 3, 2016

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


ThermoPhysical posted:

I haven't seen old PPG in a long time, what was it supposed to be?

Fondly remembered but incredibly dated by today's standards.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


PBS Newshour posted:

The new PPG needs more attitude. It would make it work a lot more.

Isn't that just enlisting an artist to draw you art and then you tell them to "make it iconic"?


Xelkelvos posted:

Not in between all the great anime this season :smug:

JoJo and uh... uuuuuuuuuuh...

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


No, really, I'm kind of curious over here. I don't exactly keep up to date on anime.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


PBS Newshour posted:

No because iconic and attitude are two different things



Right, more 'tude it is.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


I'm pretty sure the gross out genre stopped being a thing after the nineties and for good reason. Granted, this is heavily biased since I didn't like Ren and Stimpy, Cow and Chicken, or really any other examples of it.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


ThermoPhysical posted:

I looked it up. It's apparently a dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2EfpQiOQrY

I wish I didn't look it up.

It's not like new generations have done other weird/dumb things. This, like everything else, will pass on and not be a big deal, old man.


icantfindaname posted:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2016/spring/.100495

my hero academia looks actually really good. other than that Bungo Stray Dogs, Joker Game, Kiznaiver, Concrete Revolution, and the Iron Fortress show all look to be well animated and not creepy porn but your mileage may vary with the writing

new sailor moon is garbage, rear end class i heard was mediocre, phoenix wright is a poo poo adaptation, ushio and tora i guess was supposed to be okay?

Thanks for the list, I'll see about poking each one of those on a lazy Sunday.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Yeah, when you down to it, most video media is just about you listening to people talk with some images underneath. And more often than not, you're there to listen to the people more than see the images.

Ramos fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Apr 19, 2016

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Probably because a man acting feminine is a subversion of expectations. However, as far as a woman acting masculine or taking on traditionally masculine traits, IE, wearing a suit, being beefy strong, or being just generally proactive, is just showing that she's stepping up to a challenge or otherwise being an ideal image of capability.

A man acting feminine though is bad since you're giving up masculinity in exchange for a long history of traits associated with being weak, submissive, and/or needy.

Seriously, take a look at any lead female protagonist recently in media. She's heroic because she's just doing what lead males are expected to do.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


The Ayshkerbundy posted:

I'd agree if it wasn't for the pilot setting up expectations

Yeah, the pilot was a great set up. We got to meet Bee, see her personal goals in life, and see her start working towards solving each of them. Plus her first little adventure was set up well to give the show a nice mix of slice of life and action and a hint at romance. And then after the kickstarter, a lot of her agency was lost real fast

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Eh, didn't care for Apple and Orange but then I was also the rare child that didn't care for Spongebob and this feels very much like the same "wacky gremlin neighbors". Bottom's Buttes seems a lot more interesting but then the main character seems to be a Tom Sawyer type character. No idea what to make of the peanut guy, he doesn't seem to have much personality yet.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Man, shows and movies didn't stop featuring zombies, they are now the zombies.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Wait, Teen Titan Go has lessons? All I can remember from it is that Beast Boy has a fetish for girls licking his underwear.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012




Making a new non-human model probably wouldn't have been worth the effort.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Actually, you're allowed to be employed in the US at age 14. However, until you're 16, you can only work a limited set of hours.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012





Just like Ben, I am perpetually ten.

PhazonLink posted:

Isn't it basically a toy commercial?

That's pretty much any male adolescent oriented action series. With Ben 10 they can at least make all the aliens and sell them on the show easily and neatly instead of having things like Spider-Man and his Helicopter.

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Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Ben's gotten a retcon and a reboot? He's a real superhero now.

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