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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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looks like something new is going to be done with Codename Kids Next Door in the near future and I'll admit it's got me feeling kinda hype https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2aDok_CcQ

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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Sockser posted:

I'm fairly certain new Fairly Oddparents is still happening somehow. Like every year there's a new movie.

Yeah they recently announced Season 10, which will probably suck for the most part

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Jsor posted:

Did anyone ever see that half-live-action sequel to Code Lyoko*? Was it any good (assuming you actually liked Lyoko in the first place)? I'm guessing no, but I've been curious for a while how it ended up turning out.

* Yes, I know it's in French, I assume there are subs or something.

From what I've heard, the LA parts are incredibly meh, and while the Lyoko parts are supposed to be really good looking, it also has issues with it undoing the ending of the original series and then ending on a cliffhanger which all together leads to most fans of the original series ignoring it for the most part(not that the original series didn't have it's own flaws, like a lot of the early episodes being practically unwatchable due to being not only incredibly repetitive, but also the Lyoko segments being crap due to the kids being ridiculously incompetent in every meaning of the word)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


part of the reason CN screwed over most of it's DC shows between Batman:BATB and TTGO was that CN and DC have a REALLY bad relationship for two companies that are owned by the same people, which combined with most of the recent DC shows prior to TTGO only getting average ratings at best made it so it was in CN's best interest to screw over DC's stuff(similar thing happened with most of their non-Ben 10 action series over the last 8 or so years, especially if they were made by an outside studio, part of the reason that Hasbro tried to make The Hub into the sole destination for most of it's stuff after CN screwed them over during Transformers Animated's third season, otherwise we probably would have gotten most of The Hub's original programming on CN if it was even made)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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DoctorWhat posted:

It's amazing that Greg Weisman's been doing TV action cartoons for over 20 years now, yet he still has NO loving IDEA how television production works. His reach far, FAR exceeds his grasp CONSTANTLY, in terms of longevity and spinoffs and poo poo, and it's infuriating for everyone who has to deal with the aborted plot threads and broken promises.

he's the American equivalent to Go Nagai in that respect(or maybe Yasuhiro Imagawa)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Sleeveless posted:

Apparently this was part of the reason why Disney Channel made Kim Possible, after dealing with Hillary Duff and her crazy stage mom they decided their next big star would be animated so if the talent started causing trouble it would be a lot easier to just replace them.

Which makes the fact that they still mostly do LA sitcom crap on the main channel kinda confusing

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Man this new version of Reboot just sounds like a Code Lyoko ripoff, hopefully it'll be better than it sounds

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


for me besides the overabundance of melodrama, the main thing I didn't like about most of LoK was that the Bending combat was mostly mediocre compared to ATLA for almost the entire show, still the show had it's moments, including having some very good villains(ignoring Season 2), the Wan 2 parter, and the Series Finale was actually pretty great even if they stretched out taking down the giant robot a bit too long

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Sleeveless posted:

I think that trying to have a serious overarching plot was a wrong move, as evidenced by the first Hey Arnold movie bombing so terribly. Finding out that Arnold's parents are actually alive in the jungle somewhere and he goes to rescue them and the big twist ending is that his last name actually is "Shortman" and it's not just a term of endearment from his Grandpa is the kind of thing that's funny to read about after the fact but probably wouldn't have meshed at all with the actual show.


In retrospect it very much feels like The Simpsons in the way that they created such a big cast of characters and was able to use them all to great effect. If anything it's even more impressive because Hey Arnold is so much more grounded and small-scale.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByZ1-8eLCW4#t=646s

part of the reason the Movie bombed so hard was that it was never intended to be a theatrical production at all, it was originally going to be a TV Movie, and then Nick decided to put it in theaters for some retarded reason which torpedoed the plans for The Jungle Movie(which was the movie they wanted to do for theaters) and lead to the series being canned, meanwhile the plans for The Patakis spinoff died due to it being too mature for Nickelodeon at the time and MTV not wanting it due to it being superficially similar to Daria(which had recently ended if I recall properly at the time)


SlothfulCobra posted:

I wonder how much of a train wreck it was backstage on that show. It seems like managing a bunch of different technical equipment on a low budget show in the 90s would be a nightmare.

Add to that the standard problems of working with small children.

from what I read online Nick Arcade actually ran pretty smoothly outside of the technical issues with their more involved homebrew games(helps that the host was apparently really good at handling the contestants both on-screen and off), indeed the only game show that seemed to regularly have any issues was Legends of The Hidden Temple, and that was more due to it being one of the hardest children's game shows to have ever existed(seriously compared to a lot of other game shows for kids it has an abysmal win ratio)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Gann Jerrod posted:

I think it's because they filmed like 5-6 episodes a day, so if you were one of the last contestants you were probably exhausted and couldn't think straight.

yeah I've heard the conditions in the contestant waiting room for LOTHT were absolutely abysmal

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


apparently there's a Kickstarter to bring back SWAT KATS, kinda hope it succeeds cause we need more more Action focused cartoons right now

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Y-Hat posted:

Are there any YouTube clips available of that scene where Bugs Bunny dresses up like a slave and begs to whichever character he's trying to psyche out by saying something to the effect of, "Sorry massa, don't whip me massa!" (Edit: Yep! And he was loving around with Yosemite Sam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434)

I love Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes, but some moments on there are truly hosed up. You can't even show a lot of the old cartoons on TV anymore because tobacco and smoking are a part of so many of them.

Personally I've never seen the smoking parts in old cartoons to be problematic, especially since if someone's smoking it'll often backfire on them in some way in these sorts of things, not to mention they often bring up the disgusting aspects of smoking if there's any direct focus on it, if I weren't posting from my phone I'd link that Goofy short from the George Geef years where he tries to quit smoking for exactly those reasons(that and the short is freaking hilarious)

Also while there's often some uncomfortable racial moments in old animation and comics, I think it's better to use that sort of thing for educational reasons than to just bury it behind a wall of shame(humor makes a better teacher than shame in my opinion when it comes to showing kids about why racism and other forms of prejudice are bad), not to mention it's often funny if for different reasons than originally intended(for how ridiculous people could be back then about that sort of thing, instead of the various reasons people found that sort of thing funny back then)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


TwoPair posted:

Yeah, I don't think I've seen an example in a Looney Tune where smoking is cool. Usually it just ends up with Daffy Duck or someone smoking a stick of dynamite.

Off the top of my head smoking itself is never shown to be cool, but they have used it to indicate that someone is cool(or at least trying to be cool), although they also tended to show smoking as being somewhat respectable in moderation(which makes sense since this was before people realized that Smoking really could kill you, and not just people who smoked 5 packs in a day)

It's kinda interesting when in comparison you see how Animation tends to treat other forms of recreational drugs over the years(like how Weed is generally treated in a mostly positive manner outside of a handful of incredibly hamfisted afterschool specials and episodes in the 80's and 90's)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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ConanThe3rd posted:

I can think of worse things to like on CN than Ninjago.

I remember finding the first season to be surprisingly good, second season kinda dropped the ball hard for most of it, haven't had a chance to see the other seasons yet though, show would probably be better received if it weren't in LEGO style though

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Cartoon animals drawn as animes = totally adorbs

But how is tumblr fanart relevant at all?

does it really matter Lamps, you really got to quit responding to fan art posts, it just doesn't show you in a positive light

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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BioEnchanted posted:

Also trying to go back and watch Reboot with no nostalgia goggles shows it for what it is: poorly aged with really dated writing. It's not just that it looks bad, it can't help that due to tech constraints, nothing about that show has aged well. Although I did enjoy Cubix, speaking of badly animated cartoons, so maybe I just found Reboot boring.

In defence of Cubix I liked how the robots malfunctioned, and Kan It was a fun character. I also liked Dr K's other minions, Kannon, Krab, Kolosal and Katastrophe. (He named all his inventions so that he could introduce then like so: "Meet Kannon! With a "K"!")

One of the robots names took me too long to get though, the evil robot that copied other robots I initially heard as Killerbot, which made sense due to him being the most dangerous, then I paid closer attention: his name was Kilobot because he was 1000 robots in one due to his ability to copy other robots abilities. He was also badass, he disabled Cubix by copying his ability to seperate his body parts at will, trapped cubixes parts between his own parts and just pulled together to crush Cubix's individual components


Cubix was a weird show, although looking back I'd say the main issues were how the humans looked(the robots in comparison had pretty good designs), and the English dub really doesn't age well at all, it's one of those ideas that could benefit from a reboot

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Crabtree posted:

It still won't stop the last holdover of the CN Real Era, Total Drama who-the-gently caress-cares from coming back this September for another cheap as poo poo season from Canada. Legally regulated Canadian schlock is always the great equalizer for every generation.

I'll totally admit that franchise is a guilty pleasure of mine(and the first season is legitimately good in my opinion)

Rudoku posted:

The worst part is that when Johnny Test premiered, it was one of the better non-anime cartoons on the WB since Spielberg stopped making stuff. Fuckin' educational TV law...

Yeah it's kinda amazing how Season 1 of Johnny Test is actually pretty well animated and overall a pretty decent show(even if it was a blatant Dexter ripoff), then they switched to Flash in Season 2 and by the third season the writing also started falling apart till it became the abomination it's known as today(although I imagine it wouldn't be as hated if it hadn't been overly abused by CN's scheduling department)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Bass Bottles posted:

I feel like you guys are forgetting that Teen Titans Go! Is CN's top rated program.....

Yeah but Robin(who's the biggest rear end in a top hat on that show) regularly gets his comeuppance for being a complete choad(and he's the only one who's constantly an rear end in a top hat, the others are only when the plot calls for it/it would be funny

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


TwoPair posted:

So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who.

Well if it was like the early stuff which got downright surreal at times, I could possibly get behind a reboot

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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icantfindaname posted:

Disney shows other than Gravity Falls, including Kim Possible, Phineas, Wander and that one new show with the magical girl wand, all always seemed to be real boring to me. I think it's because they're not aimed at or written by weirdo adults who watch children's cartoons, like most CN shows throughout the years. I can't see the Disney show creators drawing porn of their characters on the side unlike Rebecca Sugar or John Kricfalusi, for example

And as for Nickelodeon, I feel like they were always sort of the third children's network, I don't really think the market is big enough to support three of them. CN is more of an animation for animation's sake network, Disney is more of a wring money out of tweens network, and Nick is caught in the middle of that and can't do either as well as CN or Disney

Nickelodeon I wouldn't be surprised to see collapse as a network within the next 5-10 years really(possibly the rest of Viacom as well, as I've heard they haven't been doing so hot the last couple of years)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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TwoPair posted:

Danny Phantom is a show I really liked the concept of and I feel like it could've done much better if it didn't have the exact same Butch Hartman-style animation as Fairly Oddparents. That look just doesn't meld with action, even if you're trying to mix it with comedy.

same thing can be said for Ninjago, it'd probably find a lot more acceptance if it wasn't stuck in the Lego style, first season was actually surprisingly good(second season kinda dragged and had a lot of really dumb ideas though, and haven't seen any of the others yet)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


The weirdest thing about The Looney Tunes Show was how they barely used Elmer Fudd despite him being one of the most iconic characters, when they could have easily had him be the Newman to Bugs' Seinfeld, which was something oddly lacking in the show

Also those really awful CG Wiley and Road Runner shorts that led to neither character being able to be used in the show proper(this show would have been a golden opportunity to bring back the Wile E Coyote Super Genius version of the character)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

It's either that, or they bring back 5 hours of Johnny Test.

Thank god it's finally dead, it's amazing how a show that started out pretty decent could descend to such depths of mediocrity

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Acne Rain posted:

I guess you didn't see that coming
(whipcrack)

It's weird, when it first came out I thought it was actually pretty good, derivative as all hell, but something you could tell had effort put into it, and then it became something really awful

Also it's probably the cartoon with the overall most accurate Pokemon parody I've ever seen(well besides the Speed Racer speech thing everyone did, that was weird)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


readingatwork posted:

They also refuse to let the show evolve in any meaningful way. Jakes kids are probably the most egregious example but the one that pissed me off the most was them giving Fin his arm back. It was an awesome chance to explore Fin's character dealing with a dissability that they wasted because they were afraid to keep his character design changed for too long. Which is BS because people would have been stoked to see him running around with a robot arm.

They've been doing this crap since season 3 when they returned PB to being an adult as soon as possible(this episode soured me on Lemongrab for a long time as a result, I eventually came to like him as well, although I still think Too Young is a very mediocre episode) starting a trend of the show crapping on Finn whenever possible(heck I can't even remember the last time Finn won a fight by himself without a Deus Ex Machina being needed)

Also found it ridiculous that when Lemongrab went full North Korea that PB went with such a convoluted plan to defeat him when she could have had Finn kick his rear end, or just have Rattleballs assassinate the jerk(kinda weird that we haven't seen him since despite the end of his episode showing that he works for PB now), cause as seen with how PB handles the Fire Kingdom, it's definitely the sort of thing she'd do

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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HorseRenoir posted:

This is actually the exact thing I was talking about earlier. Anyone who thought that story arc was supposed to be about Finn having a super cool robot arm forever and ever was completely missing the point, and too caught up in cosmetic changes and bullshit lore speculation to see the bigger picture.

So what exactly is the Bigger Picture supposed to be then, cause I can't see anything coherent and haven't for a long time

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Ramos posted:

I don't know, Finn doesn't get ridiculously depressed to the point of trying to draw all attention to his tragedy. When he does get depressed, he just tends to get quieter and deals with all of his problems via active aggression: beating the poo poo out of everything. I mean, yeah, that's not going to be as melodramatic as Pearl basically screaming to the sky about Rose not getting it on with her, but Finn's far from dull. He just keeps it light and on the occasion where violence isn't doing it for him, he gets inquisitive about dealing with his problems, like the time he became Davey.

That said, I got to agree, the show's general character development tries reaching for something big constantly and then just falls flat on its face. In particular, Finn's dad was just put on a one way bus to never coming back and without really any fanfare. The show's never really been big on a singular direction, but if it's trying to go for that with at least few ongoing plots, it needs to get centralized better.

the thing is, Finn's been depressed for like 90% of all the episodes since he broke up with Phoebe, and he hasn't even been engaging in a lot of violence lately(and like 80% of the time he even gets into a fight anymore he gets his rear end handed to him almost immediately when in the early seasons he was pretty consistently portrayed as one of the most competent fighters in all of Ooo who didn't use magic or some such), the problem is that Finn's been BORING for the majority of the time since then, and a boring main character is a horrible albatross for a cartoon to bear

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Larryb posted:

Yeah, I just looked it up and the description sounds even worse than the first one. Apparently there were 4 live-action Scooby Doo films: two theatrical releases(with a third in production and set for a September 2018 release) and two made for TV movies.

The two made for TV ones are their own thing and were okay, apparently it was going to lead into it's own TV show but then Cartoon Network decided to stop doing Live Action stuff and canned it, which might be why MI got such a cold treatment by the network

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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kefkafloyd posted:

Some of the jokes in the new Scooby were funny but the McFarlane-esque style is a bit off putting.

I like Kate Micucci but does anyone have any idea as to why Mindy Cohn lost out on being Velma again? Especially when all the other VAs came back.

She was probably just busy with another project

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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just got a couple days ago all three DVD sets for Gargoyles(since they're all under ten bucks on Amazon), and going through Season 1 now, and man Deadly Force is an exceptionally powerful episode, going through this series for the first time in years is going to be quite fun

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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kefkafloyd posted:

I churned through it a few years back when it was all up on the tubes. Gargoyles was really ahead of its time. Are most of the later season episodes still in limbo? The DVD order was really cut up from what I can remember.

Seasons 1 & 2 are both fully available on DVD(Season 2 is split into two 26 episode sets), only The Goliath Chronicles(Season 3) isn't available, and well that season is both mostly crap, and outside of the first episode of the season The Journey , it isn't canon, since the creator only worked on that episode before Disney fired him, and if I recall properly he remade that episode as part of the comics they did a couple years ago

And again all three sets are on Amazon for dirt cheap(got all three for less than thirty bucks not counting shipping)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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FilthyImp posted:

Gargoyles actually had, like, meaningful continuity.

My kidbrain was blown to bits when they actually went into Owen's background.

Yeah it was pretty great, although the whole thing with Oberon's Children was kinda weird

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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jscolon2.0 posted:

If there's a god, YJ.

Eh while Young Justice had some good ideas, the execution was kinda meh, I'd say it's probably Weisman's worst show

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Yeah the reason why it worked for Xanatos and other villains on Gargoyles was is that we'd either see why worked out for them, or we'd see at least some coherent glimpse at how it'd help them out in the long run(like pretty much everything that came out of Xanatos creating The Pack), while with The Light we rarely got any real insight on their nebulous schemes

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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mycot posted:

The Toonami guys figured this out when they were trying to acquire the show and shared it a while ago but Symbionic Titan has the absolute dumbest fate for a TV show. The rights got sold to the US government as part of a tax loophole, so it's not even allowed to be shown on TV.

Someone at Cartoon Network must reaaaaally hate giant robots.

I still don't understand what's the point of something like that, that kind of tax write off just seems like more trouble than it's worth(like does the series in question just disappear into a legal limbo forever or can someone else buy the rights up later?), and you'd think CN would know better than to do that kind of thing considering how much of a stink doing that to Megas caused(it's really weird too, CN's only done this three times, and with two of them being robot series it kinda raises up a special sort of stink)

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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raditts posted:

Everything after Ego Trip should be considered its own show, and should be locked away and forgotten.

There actually were a couple of good post-Ego Trip episodes, but yeah it is mostly dire

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Jsor posted:

Was after Ego Trip where the animation style changed?

Yes

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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Stuff like this makes me sad that Titan will never be in a Super Robot Wars game

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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since the Steven Universe thread is still locked, gotta report this news here;

Steven Universe Returning January 4th

and a preview clip


and the first five episodes of the new year(as part of a Bomb)

quote:

“The Answer”– Garnet finally tells Steven the story of how she came to be a Crystal Gem.

“Steven’s Birthday” – Steven has a birthday party out at the barn, and decides he has some growing up to do.

“It Could’ve Been Great” – The Gems take a trip to the moon.

“Message Received” – Steven has doubts about believing in everyone.

“Log Date 7 15 2”– Steven sneaks a listen to a friend’s audio diary.

kinda hoping this news might lead to the SU thread getting reopened, I think it's been locked long enough

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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

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It's been a couple months I'm sure most of the idiots have calmed down(really should have gotten the mods to ban most of them instead of closing the thread, would have been a much better solution)

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