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cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

raditts posted:

I think whoever they brought on in the last 5 years or so is/was responsible for all the lovely live-action shows they've had, because if I recall correctly that person hated cartoons. :shepface:


His name is Stuart Snyder. He's been the President and CEO of Cartoon Network since the Boston Bomb Scare of 2007 caused the old CEO, Jim Staples, to resign. His idea was apparently to try and turn Cartoon Network into a general kids network, to try and compete more heavily with Nickelodeon and Disney Channel.

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cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
I don't know how to feel about that Fish Hooks on Disney Channel. It just feels so weird to me that they have so many talented people working on the show ( Alex Hirsch, Justin Roiland, Maxwell Adams,etc.), and what they end up turning out is something that's watchable, but feels like it should be much more than that.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

TwoPair posted:

Our long national nightmare is over. Now if Johnny Test can be canceled, Canada's reign of terror may end.

It won't be over til all those nicktoons original shows are dead.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
Well, I just learned this now checking twitter but apparently the Ben 10 franchise is dead. According to NickandMore they're gonna start burning off episodes of Omniverse starting next week at 6 in the morning.

https://twitter.com/NICKandMORE/status/516570237026971648

I'm a little surprised actually, since I thought Ben 10 was still fairly popular. Apparently not though. Gonna miss it, I was enjoying this series.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Sithsaber posted:

The Hub's primetime hours (and thus its sweet, sweet viewership ratings) have been given to nature shows.This might mean less cartoons.

The thing is though, on a daily basis, barely anybody watches the network in the first place. There's a reason Discovery's taking it back.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

raditts posted:

Speaking of station rebrandings, is there any noticeable difference in The Hub's daytime programming now that it's Discovery Family? Looking at the program guide it's mostly the same poo poo they've always shown. Just that instead of showing 80s / 90s sitcoms in the evenings / overnight it's giant blocks of all the Discovery Network dogshit that nobody wanted to watch on other channels, like Auction Kings and DC Cupcakes.

At this point, the entire channel's seen as a failure. The only reason the schedcule isn't enirely Discovery's leftovers is because the Hasbro shows still get them ratings. Although, obviously not good enough for them to have to rebrand.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

raditts posted:

I kind of figured they'd been staying afloat on the strength of creepy bronies alone. Too bad for them nobody cares about any of their other toy lines from the 80s and they canceled all the shows that were remotely good, I guess.

That's pretty much it. By the end, they thought that toy shows and nostalgia alone would be enough, but the thing is in this day and age you need something more. It's not like the 80s and 90s when there was more reruns and such typically added into programming. Kids programming is already crowded with known names like Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, so if you want to compete, you really have to hit the ground running. The Hub kinda started out like that, but by the end, it fizzled. Fun Fact: An executive for the network said when it first started said that they expected to be half the size of Cartoon Network in five years. That's basically 500,000 total viewers. By the end of the network's lifetime, they were barely hitting 100,000.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Rand Brittain posted:

Okay, but that doesn't explain why they're doing the same thing to nearly everything that isn't Teen Titans Go.

This seems to be the official reason, from the president herself:https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/971781081056907264

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

McCracAttack posted:

Apparently it wasn't much of a secret. Everyone just looked the other way.

https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/979475430318202882

In that article itself, two of the artists who worked there were literally shown an album of child porn and just said "gross" and ignored it, never mentioning to anyone. And two of them STILL were trying real hard to praise him, with one of them even saying if he won an award, he would dedicate to him, despite what he knew. God.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Pakled posted:

http://holisticvolunteer.tumblr.com/post/175135580640/holisticvolunteer-a-mysterious-three-caballeros


An unannounced Three Caballeros show has appeared on an Asian(?) Disney app. No news about this being released elsewhere and there doesn't seem to be any info online about it before this tumblr post.

e: The tumblr post says Disneylife is an Asian app but Disney's site says Disneylife is only available in the UK and Ireland so I dunno what's going on

actually now that I think about it, this might be a weird hoax?

Apparently there is a website for it, it was made for the Philippines and released last month?

https://disneylife.ph/ph

So maybe it's real, but its fair to take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: Here’s something that might make it real.


Those three ducks on the side look like April, May and June, Daisy’s nieces who only appeared in the comics. That feels like a really obscure pull for a hoax, but who knows?

cartoons123 fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jun 22, 2018

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
I highly doubt there are any people in this thread who watched and/or liked 6teen, but if there are, they just released their first episode in 8 years, and it is kinda surreal, if only because I'm pretty sure this show takes place in Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2vdlxw3Ni8

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Macrame_God posted:

Doesn't Nick own the Avatar IP? Why is it on Netflix?

This wouldn't be the first time Nick did shows for Netflix, one of their other shows, Pinky Malinky, was supposed to air exclusively on Netflix this summer. Granted then it got pulled at the last minute, so no one knows what's going on with that: https://deadline.com/2018/06/nickelodeon-produce-animated-tv-show-pinky-malinky-netflix-1202414972/

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
Right now, I'm spending my day trying to figure out why Ben 10 2017 Season 1 and We Bare Bears Season 3 (?) have suddenly appeared on USA Netflix. This is very weird to me, cause I've assumed that Hulu still had the exclusive rights to all the Turner shows, especially since the OK KO dropped on there like a month ago? So either that's expired, or someone at Netflix HQ made a mistake

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I feel weird about hilda. Stuff like the rat king and the giant are just above and beyond anything on any other show for character design, but there is something about the show that feels really PBS kids.

I think the last few years every single kids show that was really good was really good because it was good for adults. Like adventure time, gravity falls, steven universe, regular show, avatar were all good because they were good for any audience with kids and adults both being the target in some way, or the audience just being "people that like good shows". And this feels like a show that is good, but for kids. Like nothing about it feels BAD for adults to watch, and I can appreciate how great it as at the creature concepts but it just feels like a show about 10 year olds for 10 year olds that isn't for me the way like duck tales is written that anyone that likes good shows should be watching it.

Your point of the show being geared more towards kids than adults is not wrong, but it does remind me of why I was a little annoyed at people trying to sell it as "the next Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, etc." because it's really not trying to be. Hilda, both the tv series and the comics it's based on, is definitely geared more toward the younger crowd than those two shows. I think it is made in a way that anyone can watch it, but not in the same way those other shows. It's definitely more like nostalgia for childhood, very imaginative and such. It doesn't really tell adult jokes like some of the shows you mentioned (unless you consider Alfur's love of bureaucracy and contracts adult). And I actually do think it touches on some topics in interesting ways, like Hilda and her mother's dealings with the elf civilization in the first two episodes. I think the gist of what I'm trying to say here is, coming into Hilda for Gravity Falls and other's style of humor and storytelling will leave you disappointed, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
So hey, if you’re wondering what happened to that Invader Zim movie and that Rockos Modern Life movie that was supposed to air years ago, well they both just got sold to Netflix.

http://nickalive.blogspot.com/2019/05/netflix-acquires-nickelodeons-rockos.html

This was expected honestly, I don’t think that Hey Arnold movie did great ratings wise. Which makes sense considering the kids who are meant to watch that had no idea what Hey Arnold was.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Hemingway To Go! posted:

it was cancelled a long time ago wasn't it

The studio basically shut down after production, which might've had something to do with Julia, so any chance of it getting a 2nd season was incredibly slim. It was a good show that just got dealt a lot of poo poo, especially from it's own creator

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

The_Doctor posted:

I feel like CN are spamming the baby bear episodes of We Bare Bears lately. Every time I’ve put it on, it’s been a baby bear ep.

I wanna say they’re prob attempting to build up momentum since they’re getting a spin-off soon. Can’t tell you if this is the right way to go though

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Macaluso posted:

Oof, the animation in this is rough. And like half the scenes they showed the words didn't match the mouths

I’ll be fair and put that blame on the way trailers are cut, which always seem to gently caress up the sync in some way or other. Otherwise... eh? They’ve been pushing the fact that they’re going for movie quality animation, and you know in some ways this looks fine, if nothing special. I can see this going in between 2019 Grinch and like Horton heads a Who on the “Modern Dr. Seuss Animation Adaptations” scale. I guess at least it doesn’t look like it’ll be a Lorax?

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/infinity-train/

🦌

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
Every once in a while im reminded new Animaniacs is a thing, and I've been wondering what that would look like in 2020. I guess the answer is "more or less the same I guess"

https://twitter.com/animanicast/status/1221122974268391424?s=20

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
I guess depends on your expectations. Needless to say for a Disney Channel series based specifically on a established Disney movie, any and all attempts at being gay will at best be little things put in from writers

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
I’ll take it too if you can

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Electric Phantasm posted:

Youtube recommended me this out of the blue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGu0p0Mw7QE

Is this official?

Yes, Cartoon Network in Latin America continued the cartoon crossover promos long after North America mostly stopped doing it, and a lot of those are available in English thanks to the English feed


https://youtu.be/hubOYitOQAc

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

ThermoPhysical posted:

Don't recall it being said here but the We Bare Bears movie is actually the series finale.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB8iDA2humr/

Yeah, sounds like most of the team will be moving on to the baby bears spinoff, and it won’t be airing alongside the main show after all.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Larryb posted:

Legend of Korra is coming to Netflix in August:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/21/21332813/legend-of-korra-streaming-netflix-avatar-last-airbender-nickelodeon-cbs-all-access

Speaking of Avatar, any idea if that live action remake series they were talking about is still happening or not?

It's still happening, but much like everything else, it's on hold cause COVID

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

readingatwork posted:

Why the hell would anybody pitch their show to Nickelodeon at this point? They have hosed over literally every property they've worked on for the last 20 years with shocking consistency.

In the case of TMNT, since they own it, they’re pretty much forced to if they wanna do it. Still sucks that the show got canned when it clearly has a ton more life in it, but at the very least there’s still the Netflix movie to look forward to

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

MorningMoon posted:

It did rub me wrong when they said "clean vector lines", like, no, that's not what you usually want! You want the lines to look messier, to play with their width.

Apparently that was just spec dialogue from the storyboard they left in, take that as you will.

https://twitter.com/bludragongal/status/1315387143582175232?s=21

thelaughingman posted:

I’m guessing that hello nurse will most likely get cut.

It’s been semi-confirmed through various sources but yeah, none of the original show characters beyond the Warner siblings, Scratchnsniff, and Pinky and the Brain will be making regular appearances, everyone else might show up in a non-spoken cameo but that’s it, and new characters might be put in to replace them. There’s not a lot of solid info on that.

And like, I know there’s still like a weird stigma against digital animation but like, it’s fine animation, I’m not gonna call it the greatest, there’s some slight tweening but Johnny Test it is not. Titmouse did this sequence, and I’m curious how the other studios will look, especially snipple and Yowza who I think are working on this, and just did the green eggs and ham show for Warner on Ellen money, which was pretty gorgeous, I’d wanna see what they did on Spielberg money

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Digamma-F-Wau posted:

Yowza's confirmed? Yowza's the studio on the new looney tunes cartoons shorts that use puppet rig stuff (apparently they ran out of budget; compare them to LTC shorts animated by Tonic DNA or Snipple, which look a lot nicer, though given the aforementioned budget reasons I don't hold it against Yowza)

Now my big wonder is if Tonic DNA, that really nice looking prestige studio on both Green Eggs and Ham and LTC (like seriously, their GE&H episodes were a lot better than the other studios, and the other studios were already pretty good) is involved, even if only to do a few shorts.

I think I got the studios confused, my bad, but yeah Tonic’s working on it too, along with Titmouse, Yowza, and Snipple (Excuse the Cartoon Brew Link)

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/streaming/how-the-creators-of-hulus-animaniacs-reboot-subtly-updated-the-look-of-the-series-197301.html

One of the things they’ve been pushing about the reboot is consistency, they’re basing the designs on the TMS look with some slight updates (the little tufts of hair) so on the one hand they’re probably won’t be any like wild divergences but on the other no studio will prob end up Freelance level of bad, so hey

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

JazzFlight posted:

Well, I do like that art style a bit more than the way the new Animaniacs look. Of course, we'd have to see it in motion to really tell.

I do like the new Warner’s look, but they’ve also been sticking as close to the original designs as possible



I’m willing to bet because Tiny Toons doesn’t have that much prestige to worry about, they’re allowed to embellish a bit more in the redesigns

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

readingatwork posted:

Disney XD is basically what Boomerang is for CN. It's a place they can send shows that aren't getting high enough ratings to squeeze a few last dollars out without having to take up space on their flagship station. Moving an ongoing show to XD or Boomerang is basically a pre-cancellation move so this shouldn't have been surprising.

The thing is though, they specifically asked to be moved to XD, because there’s apparently a level of freedom they get to have there that they don’t on the main channel, and they were afraid airing on the main channel would screw up the airing order.

https://suspendersofdisbelief.tumblr.com/post/626457479853785088/because-of-how-the-pandemic-extended-the-hiatus/

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/thecartooncrave/status/1393576294084927495?s=21

The Amphibia season finale will be airing next Saturday, with no changes it looks like, just a disclaimer in the promo and probably the beginning of the episode

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Talking out of my rear end, but I'm guessing there was probably a conflict between higher ups who maybe wanted edits, and Braly who most likely did not, and whether or not the leak swayed any change in opinion, ultimately the added disclaimer was the compromise.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Larryb posted:

Off the subject, has there been any recent word regarding the Darkwing Duck and/or Tiny Toons reboots they announced a while back or are those two still in development hell (or cancelled) at this point?

Looniversity I’m betting is in the place Animaniacs was when it was announced, which was “just starting production” so we prob won’t be hearing about anything from there for another year or 2 at most. Don’t know about Darkwing Duck

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

DoctorWhat posted:

Welp, the movie is out and the Trollhunters franchise is over.

It couldn't really recover from Wizards being cut down from a series to ~10 episodes of desperate asset reuse that needed to set up the plot of the movie that was already deep in production in a fraction of the time.

The final villains have next to nothing to do with any of the characters the film actually focuses on. Bizarre comic relief subplots outweigh any actual exploration of the ensemble they spent 80 episodes exploring. None of the genuinely impressive political energy from early 3Below resurfaces, in favor of an extremely vague environmental gesture. Voice performances feel rushed and outsized, even from actors who turned in better work earlier in the show.

It is, however, very pretty at times, the action is exciting and well-choreographed, with real bite to making the characters' physical and emotional pain come through in the animation.

Shame about the teen mpreg subplot that amounts to nothing and is very gross and weird.

The ending of the movie made me feel, man, what if Wizards had stayed the ending for the series. Cause I still have no idea how I feel about them reversing everything that happened in the entire saga, effectively resetting everyone’s progress in the end, for a possible happy ending in the future that we’ll definitely never be seeing. It felt like them wanting their cake and eating it too in a way.

And yeah, getting Eli back only for both him and Palchuck to be sidelined for pretty much all of it felt like a waste of character growth for them

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Larryb posted:

It’s been said before but I hope they add a few more characters/segments this time around (Slappy would work great in a modern setting though you’d probably have to recast Skippy at this point since the original actor was a kid himself at the time and can’t do the voice anymore).

While having Slappy Squirrel back is my dream, unless they finally made nice with the og creators, it’s probably not gonna happen, at least not with Sherri Stoner. And I think there’s been a general feeling of “they’re not really interested in using any of the other segments for new cartoons” which, fine, but they surprisingly didn’t fill it up with much new stuff either

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

D34THROW posted:

I knew nothing about all of that :stonklol: Maybe Sticky will be a quiet presence.

Considering the one shot of him is in a car giving a wave, would not be surprised if he’s just being written out the show in a silent cameo

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

TwoPair posted:

I don't know why they're still doing three-camera sitcoms like that with a laugh track* in this day and age. I mean the easiest guess is budget but I don't know how it could by that much cheaper than a single-cam with a better set.


*(I have to assume it's a laugh track, I can't imagine a show that effects-heavy with multiple animated characters around is actually filmed in front of an audience).

I think it’s just that’s what those producers and directors are used to doing. Most of them came from TGIF and Saved by the Bell on Network TV, and when the family/teen sitcom died over there they just jumped ship to cable. Feel like most of the better ones either come from people who were making better versions of the latter shows already (Suite Life) or people who were already making multi cam sitcoms but for adults (KC Undercover)

Otherwise it’s still mostly the same group of people who were making shows that were considered out of touch 20 years ago

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

BioEnchanted posted:

I liked how most of the seemingly unimportant details kind of came back into play in the finale, like the tesseract, the palladium, etc. Also while some episodes were just kind of silly like the one with Marshall giving the school his virus, a lot of them had interesting themes and situations like the Mayfly episode and the one where Lucas accidentally blinds himself with x-ray vision.

There is always a wonder of what the show would've done with those two additional seasons they were planning if their production studio didn't implode on them, but for the limited time, they managed to tie everything up neat enough

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

TwoPair posted:

Is it by the Phineas & Ferb guys? The guy's artstyle looks similar.

By one of them at least, it looks like Dan and Swampy have split to work on their own separate shows (Dan’s working solo on their, it looks like Jeff is pivoting to working on a preschool show at least in a producer capacity)

Taking that into account, I’ll be the outlier and say this looks ok so far? I mean as ok as a 3 minute short that very much feels like it was produced to be shown as preview before the actual show, it does have some semblance of that P&F feeling in it (the whole aliens come to bestow powers and then be outtie is very much a gag I could see play on it)

Really I’m wondering if Dan takes any of the things he learned from Milo Murphy (RIP) in terms of story arc’s and whatnot. Neither of the two shows ever had anything near serial storytelling but Milo definitely dabbled into having story beats that lead toward a conclusion at the end of the season. Then again, it could just be a goofy superhero show and it’ll prob be fine no more, no less.

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cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013
RE: S&P Talk

I guess that tweet brought up some memories in some people (I had to post this somewhere because it was going to stay in my brain otherwise because… what)

https://twitter.com/_wolfsteak_/status/1537597885147058176?s=21&t=Kg5LHmMIkvh_7NfkxeWUDw

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