I'd like to know about the origin of Eagles and Hawks in European Military badges and older banners.
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# ¿ May 23, 2011 18:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 21:28 |
Phyzzle posted:Short answer: the Romans worshiped them, and so the first large professional armies Europe had seen were carrying eagle symbols. Ah, another one of the many things from Rome. Makes a lot of sense now agh.
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# ¿ May 23, 2011 19:46 |
In the alternate cock worshipping military world I'd like to think instead of the regimental nickname of a certain lot would instead of being the cheesemongers would be the cockmonglers.
SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 24, 2011 |
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# ¿ May 24, 2011 00:37 |
I'd love if somebody could breakdown the post WW2 history of both West and East German Armies as well as their armed forces post unification.
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# ¿ May 31, 2011 00:18 |
I personally wouldn't say there is a 'best' tank really.
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# ¿ May 31, 2011 13:15 |
GyverMac posted:For those of you interested in Napoleonic history I recommend this website: I'll be happy to try and answer any old Napoleonic era uniform and equipment questions.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 19:59 |
DJ Dizzy posted:How would you describe the outbreak of WW1? Comical? A complete and utter dogmatized officercorp? A bunch of blokes getting into a fight at a pub. Said blokes are all Emperors and Statesmen of the Entente and Central Powers.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 15:09 |
Personally, I'd like to read about the early days of the Red Army when Trotsky was in charge before Stalin took over. Especially during the Russian Civil War era.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2011 00:13 |
Alchenar posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company Well, up until the Indian Mutiny anyways.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2011 19:46 |
It was hilariously mismanaged as well which led to its downfall when it simply didn't bother fully informing the Indian sepoys that the rumours about the fat in the cartridges of the new rifles and assuming their Indian soldiers would always be loyal to the last. Of course those men had nowhere to go and nothing to fight for when their own villages and families began to treat them like pariahs for simply doing their job as warriors.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2011 15:51 |
I personally think after the opening weeks of Operation Barbarossa in which the German Invasion forces seized huge amounts of territory, captured and eliminated swathes of the Red Army and pretty much reduced most of the Soviet Airforce to dust that there wasn't going to be any compromise at all between the USSR and Nazi Germany.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2011 16:19 |
Plus gay black Hitler would have gotten into the The Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, either with some artistic flare or sleeping with the Dean.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2011 23:00 |
Considering Stalin started off as a two bit Georgian Bank Robber and 'Revolutionary' and ended up as virtually the Soviet Emperor of land from eastern Germany to the south eastern Chinese coast I'd call him anything but stupid.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2011 16:02 |
Oxford Comma posted:Why were the Germans of WW1 called Huns? British Propaganda, from the 1st World War homefront radio advertisements and posters. They were also called 'The Bosche'.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2011 04:36 |
Oxford Comma posted:But why "Huns"? Prussians wouldn't be a good idea, as Prussia was a British ally for several important engagements in the past. I doubt the Ministers in charge of the Propaganda really cared that the Huns were Asiatic people. Plus, it can be hard to find something that rhymes with Visi or Ostrogoths.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2011 04:49 |
So when is it hitting the cinema?
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2011 22:00 |
Oxford Comma posted:So pretty much Germany was done after Stalingrad? I personally think their fate was sealed the moment they lost the battle for Moscow just outside the city. But Stalingrad did indeed destroy them.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2011 22:03 |
Tab8715 posted:On the subject of Alternate-History, is possible the Japanese could have won the pacific? Not really, unless everyone in China suddenly decided that the whole 'extermination and looting' thing was cool and lay down and gave Japan all their resources and land. Imperial Japan basically bit off more than it could chew. Even if the Japanese knocked out the Carriers at Pearl Harbour it wouldn't have mattered in the long run as the United States simply outclassed Japans Military, Industry and of course the most important thing of all resources.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2011 23:14 |
When you look back on, it is kinda depressing how Germany, Italy and Japan actually became threats when you notice that a majority of their victories were from slight technological prowness, the world powers being crippled by the economic troubles of the time or just experimenting with post 1st World War tactics. The late twenties and thirties really hosed the world up.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2011 00:17 |
Since we're waffling on about what ifs, how would Italian armour fare against the Japanese tanks?
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2011 15:01 |
Nenonen posted:Poorly, as the tankers would have been shedding so many tears of joy over the fact that they actually faced an opponent that could be defeated that the gunners wouldn't have seen a thing. Apart from that the Japanese 57mm tank gun would not have been able to penetrate the Italian M13/40 frontal armour, while the Italian 47mm guns would have perforated the Japanese 'medium' tanks quite easily. It would have been one sided. So in other words, only balanced if each side brought its adorable tankettes? Tab8715 posted:With the on-going World War II discussion what would you say are the most common misunderstandings or "Top 10 Myths" about World War II. The stupid Italian and French coward accusations. The Italian and French soldier could fight like the devil, their equipment and officer staff usually let them down though.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2011 15:33 |
Boiled Water posted:The victory of WWII is built upon the bones of millions of red army soldiers. The moment Militarists seized power over the Japanese Parliament conflict either with US, China or the Colonial Powers was unavoidable.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2011 18:40 |
Saint Celestine posted:Did the Italians do anything competently during WW2? Well, they were good at occupying locations and taking the brunt of some of the Soviets with volunteers with the Germans during Barbarossa .
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2011 18:56 |
Actually, The Lancers did have one final and surprisingly successful action on Horseback in 1918 towards the end of the war.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2011 02:29 |
Oxford Comma posted:Someone once told me that the English "gently caress you" gesture with two fingers comes from captured English archers being repatriated with these two fingers cut off so these archers could not longer use their bows. By holding them up they were showing their opponents they had their fingers still. Is this true? I too can confirm this old story as pure bollocks.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2011 13:31 |
Boiled Water posted:Who did the Japanese fight besides Chinese nationalists? Was the rest of it colonies? The British Empire. The Dutch Pacific holdings. The United States and her Pacific Island territories. Vietnamese Revolutionaries and Nationalists. And in the closing days of the war, The USSR.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 11:50 |
Rodrigo Diaz posted:Australia was part of the British Empire, dummy. Technically, they were a dominion of the British Empire. But the Japanese really did bite off more than they could possibly ever chew with that war. Almost went that way for the United Nations Forces during the Korean War when China joined in.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 16:33 |
535, the number that really pissed off some of the more nationalistic Japanese at the time.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 22:08 |
Rapey Joe Stalin posted:For the sake of clarity, it is helpful to specify which civil war. He must have meant the Japanese Civil Wars of the 16th century! Seriously though, The Franco-Prussian war was a delightful mix of old Napoleonic and mid Industrial era fighting.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2011 17:42 |
Going back a few hundred years, it makes me really wince thinking about all those smug Cavalary men who still wore their metal cuirass suddenly taking a musket ball in the chest.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2011 15:03 |
Mr. Sunshine posted:Trotsky was pretty badass (for a naive ideolog). After his assassin had smashed an icepick into his head, ol' Lev Davidovich threw himself at the guy and wrestled him to the ground. When his bodyguards showed up some of his last words were basically "Don't kill him, we need him to talk". The Russian Civil War would turn any nerdy little dude into a cold cold man. Pointless death over outdated and hyped up ideology backed by state supported famine! The early years of the Bolsheviks up until Stalin clawed his way into power is endlessly facinating for me.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2011 20:47 |
I think Napoleons utter crushing of the Prussian Army with the humiliation of the state and ending the Frederick myth of invincibility really helped in the states Militarism as well.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2011 02:48 |
Comstar posted:Re: Placing British Dreadnought spotters directly behind the exhaust stack: What other facepalm moments are there in the history of weapon systems or designs? The Charge Of The Light Brigade. Yeah, it made for some gloriously dark poetry but come the gently caress on. Pretty much the whole Crimean War when you think about it.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2011 17:54 |
Alchenar posted:Don't think that counts as a weapon system or design. If we're going to be specific I would say the Anti-Tank Rifle in the 2nd World War.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2011 18:30 |
Nenonen posted:How come? Germans seemed to take the ATR threat seriously enough to keep installing Schürtzen on their tanks until 1945. Modern equivalents such as the Barrett .50 are popular even today. Well as tank technology grew for certain nations I would say that quite frankly the AT rifle got more and more awkward to use. A man trained with it and basic knowledge of where to shoot to harm the crew or knock out a vital compoment might still have the edge but at the end of the day when a tanks bearing down on you I think anyone would rather have a rocket based Anti-Tank weapon or a Molotov. And why they did some of the heavier work in the early stages of the war soldiers found that quite frankly awkward to carry and clean especially in certain conditions. I've read many accounts of British soldiers in Burma going 'oops' and casually dumping their AT Rifles on the Jungle trail. The AT Rifle did a pretty good job in late World War 1 so it wasn't a total disaster and I'm really just grasping at straws.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2011 19:01 |
It was guaranteed to get you laid and kept you warm in the days before central heating too.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2011 17:49 |
I personally find it hilarious seeing Victorian era Redcoats all bearded the gently caress up.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2011 18:11 |
You too can dress up like a soldier from the past*! *Assuming you have hundreds to spare!
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2011 18:31 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 21:28 |
Baconroll posted:In some areas the Home Guard became an alternate power structure when the fear of invasion was still 'real'. They routinely detained the Police and regular army units. Some of it was concern about infiltrators, and some was settling of scores. If a institution isn't slightly corrupt full of angry useless egotistic and dangerous wankers it isn't British dammit!
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2011 14:39 |