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gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Thank you for giving me somewhere to post this.


Bad: Final season of Lost now and as well as the "weapon gets moved slightly --> cacophony of charging/racking noises", what really cracks me up/annoys me is that the armorer for the show apparently was a mom and pop operation, because they only have 5 longarms. An SKS, M1, M1 Carbine, FN-FAL, and a Mini-14. Any scene anywhere on the island, no matter if the bearer just arrived or have been hiding out since who knows when, only the same 5 rifles ever seem to show up. (Spoilers.)


Good: There's virtually no gunplay in Shutter Island but DiCaprio still handles a 1903 like he's--well, like he's doing a one-man SWAT raid with a bolt-action. (Try not to faint, Fang.) At one point he unslings the 1903 in one expert, fluid motion without making it showy--but anyone who actually handles 10 pound milsurp rifles can appreciate that whipping one around like that takes some practice and finesse. The dude is just fun to watch handling firearms.

(seen here room clearing my heart )

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gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Jefferoo posted:

So has anyone else seen The American yet? It's slow as gently caress but the gun-related stuff seems pretty good, like making a silencer out of car parts, making ammunition including loading 5.56 rounds with mercury to make them explosive, a long explanation of what suppresors are and how silencers are impossible in the first ten minutes to someone whose supposed to be a professional, and so on. It sounds like complete bullshit but you guys know more than me.

There is one line, that's like, "you want the firing capacity of a submachine gun but the range of a rifle," that made me tilt my head...which is followed by him ordering an Mini-14, that made no sense, but I'll let you guys pick out the rest. At the very least, it's Mini-14 porn.

/edit: I'm way too blind when it comes to M-14/Mini-14 differentiations

I saw it and enjoyed it a lot. It's a really low-key film surprisingly centered on nitty-gritty of gunsmithing to a fairly convincing degree; would not have been out of place in the 60's. Akin to the original Day of the Jackal, so I do not expect it do well in the box office. It's a very old school style movie about a professional assassin, I think it's way more TFR fodder than most films. Surprisingly so, really.

Yeah the bit where he's picking car salvage to construct the suppressor is necessarily condensed, but I really liked the sequence of him constructing the baffles since anyone who knows how suppressors work will know immediately what he's doing.
The Mini-14 is actually a pretty good choice for the job parameters he's given, and other than the "firing capacity of a submachine gun but the range of a rifle" line most of it was actually pretty on the level. And yes, George Clooney's character corrects his client by saying he can't give her a silencer, but he can deliver a suppressor.



Oh, and What would one do to get a kaboom-in-the-face such as happens in the end of the film? Purposefully wreck the gun's headspacing?


In conclusion, the Italian actress has large breasts that are naked on screen for extended periods of time. Thank you.

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Inspector_71 posted:

Clooney is very much over that stuff now, so I doubt they expected it to do well.

Oh absolutely. Man what a good place to be. Actually reminds me of where DiCaprio has clearly been able to position himself--so much clout that he will not appear in any film that isn't custom-tailored to where he wants to be. Certainly helps that both of them end up producing a lot of films they're in. DiCaprio has gone years of exclusively doing badass man-of-action roles as we know... just remembered not really digging Body of Lies (AKA Russell Crowe Got Fat For Some Reason For This Movie) but liked him using the vz 61 in it




Oh and Cyrano is right, I think I might have mentioned earlier in this very thread but in Shutter Island he handles the 1903 with authority. I love the way he unshoulders the rifle.

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Inspector_71 posted:

Body of Lies wasn't very good, but the book it was based on wasn't either so...

On the other hand, Russel Crowe is fat and clearly gets his comeuppance in the form of getting tipped over in a chair. Take that, fat Russel Crowe.

Then he and Scott had to go and make a Robin Hood movie? I want to hit Ridley on the nose with a rolled up newspaper sometimes. "More being brilliant, less being indulgent."

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Alain Perdrix posted:

I really liked Alain Delon in "Le Samourai" and I read Roger Ebert (who is 50% insane nowadays, so his assessment could either be spot-on or completely based in an alternate reality) comparing "The American" and Clooney's performance in it to "Le Samourai" and Delon.

In short, I would very much like to see "The American."

I liked it just fine but I would again emphasize that it is a very low-key, slow burner of a film. Which for the majority of audiences translates to "boring," but I think Clooney gives a very good performance. A man we know very little about feeling paranoid about hitmen out for his life around every corner for good reason... reminds me of the Magritte painting The Menaced Assassin in a way.

Also thanks for the heads up, Le Samourai looks great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EluXfEaODSw

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


^^man I need to watch Unforgiven again, it's been too long.

I have been pushing this film pretty hard recently, but I find it hard not to since I enjoyed it so much. Lackluster reviews when it came out made me not look for it, which is a shame. It's all about soldiers remembering their part in the 1982 Lebanon War, which the protagonist (and filmmaker) has repressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylzO9vbEpPg

Despite going with animation to get around the practical problem of having no footage, the film is far better for it. I think it's a big recommendation for TFR because some people will accuse the film of being "talky," but anyone who really enjoys oral history accounts of war I think will enjoy it. Also the Galils are well drawn?

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


NosmoKing posted:

It's talky as gently caress, but a good movie regardless. It's one of those films that does a good job of illustrating the "war is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of stark terror" concept and it explores areas of "I'm a conscript and don't actually want to be here", "Why are we even DOING this", PTSD, horrible military mistakes (or people snapping from constant attacks from unseen enemy and striking out at civilians depending on what side you listen to), and other complex issues of sending people off to fight.

Yeah I've been listening to the soundtrack recently (though I had to personally sub in the right version of PiL's "(This Is Not A) Love Song" and I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a copy on Blu-Ray. The film just came at almost exactly the right time to complement my reading list. I bought Fick's One Bullet Away and in the back he gives his reading list, which i promptly went and bought the entire list (thank you, used books on amazon).
So I've been reading plenty of books that are set squarely in that talky-but-true war stuff, and I can't get enough. Reading enough veteran accounts gives you a hint at some of these universals of war, and rarely are they seen in films.

So yeah, Waltz With Bashir is awesome.

Saw The Town earlier today--and while Affleck's directorial debut was better (the excellent Gone Baby Gone), you could do worse for a heisting movie. Felt vaguely like they were going for some HEAT stuff here and there (though a lot nicer action to talky ratio)--gunplay is pretty good, there's a fairly realistic depiction of the robbers getting flashbanged and it fucks them up pretty good. One of the "crew" can be spotted late in the movie using one of those goober AK bullpup conversions but other than that the only thing that stuck out is that these Charlestown boys are connected if Jeremy Renner's character has a FA 416, which we see him cleaning here (more clearly a 416 in the movie, he holds it up with the action shotgunned).



Anyway, I would say worth it if you love bank robberies/getaway sequences as much as I do.
Also Jon Hamm

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Alain Perdrix posted:

Real talk: I would let Jon Hamm put it in my butt

I'd like to see him in more movies. I have to giggle whenever he shows up onscreen wearing anything other than a suit, because some part of your brain is upset about how disheveled he looks. Mad Men casts a long shadow. (The shadow is wearing a perfectly tailored suit.)

Young Freud posted:

Yeah, you can see those 416s in the trailer and it did stand out to me. Crooks being realistically armed with Hi-Points. I guess full-auto could be be replicated with bump-firing (if I recall about the North Hollywood shootout, this is what happened thou I could be wrong and they had a mechnically-altered AK and civie G3).

Well to be fair, within the context of the movie despite them being from Charlestown (the titular Town), this is a professional crew operating at a high level, with a lot of money from previous runs, so they have more going for them than Hi-Points.

There's a nice little parade of cool guns, including a few AKs, the 416, pretty sure one on of the jobs there's just a vanilla M4? And then later Affleck's character has a paratrooper/shortened FN-FAL

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Inspector_71 posted:

Yeah The Town actually kind of owns aside from the very end. It's very obviously a Heat homage while not being a ripoff, right down to the girlfriend waving off Ben Affleck at the end.

Would have like to have seen more of Hamm's side of things though.

Yeah while overall the movie seems pretty well rounded, and minor characters get to have some pretty good scenes I would be willing to bet they had a whole lot more footage left on the cutting room floor that would have fleshed things out for characters like Hamm, and yet would also have led to a HEAT-like bloat.

Like it seems odd that they would make such a point that the bank manager had seen renner's heistin' irish tattoo, and then nothing comes of it except a particularly tense lunch date? certain things never really come together.

But like I said you could do far worse for a heist movie.

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Finally got a hold of Michael Mann's Thief (1981), enjoying it so far. Already Mann is as obsessed with gun stuff in his debut as he would be later so I had to stop and upload a still.

Here is James Caan doing a chamber check as Jim Belushi makes a dumb face. Astute observers will note that Caan employs virtually the same suspect near-muzzle press that Pacino would use later in HEAT--guess this is just Mann's preferred method?



edit: here's me going through the effort of screencapping when almost exactly the same frame on imfdb, with the caption "Frank (James Caan) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore."

gauss fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Dec 4, 2010

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


The Dude > The Duke



(Sorry, but I have been reading too many Vietnam novels/memoirs recently and all that unfavorable talk about John Wayne seems to have rubbed off. No wait, I'm not sorry at all. Jeff Bridges would never do something as stupid as play Genghis Khan.)

Coen brothers wooooooot

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


I'm sure it's been talked about already but I finally watched Red, and despite Bruce Willis smirkwalking through the whole thing, it's entirely worth it for the wider cast.

Malkovich toting this thing (an awesome rigout)

yes, that's a revolver with a Cobray single-shot shotgun

And every second of Helen Mirren screentime most especially. HK slap/spraying out two MP5ks with nary a blink or flinch was a treat.



Basically the whole movie is kind of a happy little love letter to aging stars. Ernest Borgnine and Richard Dreyfuss out of nowhere, too.

gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


infrared35 posted:

I just noticed that's a converted full-size MP5. Weird.

What are the hallmarks of a conversion? the endcap on the back?

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gauss
Feb 9, 2001

by Reene


Yeah I didn't notice it in the movie, either. Sadly he doesn't have it out except for after they visit Richard Dreyfuss where he does point it some but it gets no action.

Bet was still a lot of fun to build by the armorers though.

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