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The last thread had a lot of outdated info in the op so here's the new one. This thread will give you the necessary information to install, mod, optimize and NOT gently caress UP your Oblivion game. I'll note which steps are essential, if you don't want to get too deep into all this, general troubleshooting, as well as mentioning the current most popular mods. Step 1. Installing Oblivion. Uninstall Oblivion cleanly before re-installing. That means deleting the installation folder, the folder in 'My Games' with the .ini, and using CCleaner's registry cleaning tool (or any registry cleaner) to get rid of any remnants of the game.
Step 2. Mod Utilities and essentials.
Step 2.5. Using OBMM and Wyre Bash. These two programs do primarily the same thing by allowing you to easily install mods and set your load order. However, they both have unique features that you will want to take advantage of to create a smoother, more stable game. If you're fully familiar with these programs then you can use them in whatever way is most comfortable. If not, your mod adding procedure should be as follows.
At this point you can finish, having only used OBMM, but if you're planning on adding a lot of mods then you really need to do this next set of steps in Wyre Bash.
The Bashed Patch feature of Wyre Bash will help increase stability in your load order, as well as allow all your mods to share and mix information, as opposed to overwriting each other. Your load order denotes the order in which Oblivion loads mods, so if two mods change the same information the one loaded last will overwrite the data from the one loaded first. This can be an issue when dealing with things like levelled lists (the lists that distribute items to vendors, NPCs and loot found in the game) and cosmetic mods, as well as any mods that add new items to the Oblivion world. Thanks to the combined brilliance of BOSS and Wyre Bash we can combine this information so that your mods don't eat each other. For more information about Wyre Bash and what you can do with it go here. Step 3. Optional Utilities. There are other things you can do to help optimize your set-up. TES4Edit is a utility that can view all your mods and look for conflicts which you can change yourself. It also allows you to edit some aspects of mods, or the original game, you don't like. It comes with a large manual but is easy enough to use with a little practice and reading. TES4Gecko is a utility that allows you to merge together the .esps of mods. Since Oblivion has a hard cap of 255 .esp and .esm files it can load in one game this can be helpful for adding more mods. Many things can't be merged without issue though, so read up first. Finally Python File Format Interface (PYFFI) is a new craze that allows you to optimize .nif files (meshes) to increase stability and even boost frame rates. I'm not entirely sure how it does it (some kind of defragger that gets rid of unnecessary data) but it's very popular. I won't bother writing up tutorials for these unless they're highly demanded. Certainly none of them are needed for a working, stable game. Oh yeah, here are some mods too. To make your game better and such. Traveller In Time fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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Installing Mods Make sure to read the readme for every mod before installing. I know a lot of them are needlessly long winded but skip to the parts about installation and compatibility issues to save yourself any headaches when running. Also, test big mods for a while after installation to make sure they work and don't destabilize your game. Finding Mods TesNexus and PlanetElderScrolls are your two main sites. TesNexus has more but PES will sweep up anything you can't find there, as well as providing mirrors for downloads. Here is a list of lists for mod recommendations. Nehrim. A massive project put together with a large dose of efficient German engineering, this is a total conversion mod for Oblivion that turns it into the game it should have been. Won't go into any great detail about it since it has it's own official thread, but I will say, on a personal level, that even a heavily modded version of Oblivion can't compare with this. Anyway, onto the mods! Overhauls These mods primarily get rid of the ever maligned level scaling in Oblivion. No longer will everything around you be scaled to your level. No longer will all bandits be seen in glass armour. No longer... Well, you get the idea.
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The two big graphic mods that make the game look a hell of a lot better are Qarl's Texture Pack III (QTP3) and Really AEVWD. QTP3 changes the textures of most of the landscape giving them a much clearer more detailed look. RAEVWD makes structures in the game viewable regardless of how far away you are, so they don't pop into existence when you're 30 feet away. Be warned, they will lower your frame rate. However, by making them into OMODS they are very easy to disable should you deem them unplayable. If you want to use QTP3 then use this version, as it's the most optimised version you can possibly get. That is only the meshes, so download this for the full package, making sure to overwrite the meshes with those of the earlier download. Download RAEVWD here. Make sure to download both the normal version and the SI version, if using the Shivering Isles. Also get the OMOD installation script for both to make installing painless. TES4LODGen is also needed for Really AEVWD. RAEVWD doesn't make architecture appear in the game, it merely provides the resources for doing so. TES4LODGen is what makes it appear in game, and has to be re-run anytime you change your load order. For the most part the only thing you can do to make Qarl's run to an acceptable standard is to change settings. Just mess around with the default settings until you're happy. You can get RAEVWD working nicely by not installing the city and imperial city architecture, or the higher detail castles and IC bridges. The Aylied, forts and wilderness options will make most of the structures in the outdoors appear. Most of them have a low-poly count so fps decrease isn't too bad. We can also change the uGridDistant settings in the Oblivion .ini. These settings will determine how far Oblivion loads objects and trees, and by lowering them can incrase frame rates. Go into your .ini file in your Games folder (not the one in Oblivion's installation folder) and change these two settings uGridDistantTreeRange=15 uGridDistantCount=25 to uGridDistantTreeRange=20 uGridDistantCount=18 By having the trees just slightly ahead it gives the illusion of being the furthest thing you can see, thereby making it seem like anything beyond that is being obscured by them. Clever, huh? You can play around with those settings to reach a happy compromise between visual and performance. Note that outdoors I get about 20 – 30 fps average, with a HD4850 GPU (512mb vram) running RAEVWD, Qarl's and Better Cities with the above tweaks and below optimisation mods. Optimisation Oblivion has such a frustratingly poor engine at times that regardless of the type of machine you have, you will probably need to download some of these. Replacers for meshes and textures in the game. Short Grass and Low-Poly Grass make the grass smaller and less resource intensive without making it look any different. Similarly Enhanced Vegetation can make the trees and flora look better whilst helping frame rates (providing you use the normal size textures option). Optimised Distant Land Max also provides a resource boost without any loss of visual quality. It is also compatible with RAEVWD and QTP3. Plug-Ins and Mods. Oblivion Stutter Remover helps smooth out gameplay, and has a number of options in it's .ini that can be tweaked to smooth out and increase frames. Streamline should also be used, but note the streamsmooth utility is obsolete with OSR. It is best to use it's streamsave and streampurge options, and disabling Oblivions autosave which can cause crashes. You can do that by changing the lines bSaveOnInteriorExteriorSwitch=1 bSaveOnTravel=1 bSaveOnWait=1 bSaveOnRest=1 in the .ini file in your games folder from 1 to 0. Oblivion script optimization is obsolete and gives absolutely no boost whatsoever, infact it may make your game more unstable. Operation Optimization is largely outdated but can still do a job. It has been superseded by the PYFFI method mentioned earlier. Fast Exit and WeOCPS are helpful OBSE plug-ins that help reduce crashing. Most of the .ini tweaks found on tweakguides will provide no tangible benefits, and can cause instability, so be wary. The only other .ini tweaks I use, apart from those on this page, are the water reflection ones. Troubleshooting My game crashes back to desktop when I run it. One of you plug-ins has a master file that hasn't been loaded. Open Wyre Bash and click on your mods. In the masters box on the right check each mod (including the bashed patch) and make sure there are no unticked boxes My Game crashes after 10-30 minutes without reason. If you have a 64-bit OS and at least 4gb of memory install the LAA patch to increase the amount of memory Oblivion is allowed to use. Also use Gamebooster to turn of unnecessary programs. If it still persists uninstall large script based or high res texture mods. All the eyes in the game are weird. Use the bashed Patch feature of Wyre Bash to bash all your cosmetic mods. I have constant big drops in fps. Uninstall increased spawns mods, or any mods that add more NPCs and items in the slow area. There are big yellow exclamation marks with I'm a mesh or something in them. Install FormID Finder and use it to find out what mod it came from, re-download and reinstall said mod. My game is still broke. This website has a ton of good info on modding Oblivion, as well as troubleshooting and how to deal with specific crashes. If you still have problems ask here and you'll get plenty help. Make sure to post your load order and be as detailed as possible. If we suck and can't help post a thread on the official Bethesda modding forum. Now it's finally time to play! Or I can revise that mod list one last time and just, you know, see if there's anything else I can add. Maybe I forgot something. It can always be better, right? Maybe I'll go look through TesNexus again, just to make sure. Traveller In Time fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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drat dude, nice work on the OP. It's about time the old one got overhauled anyway.
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# ? May 30, 2010 16:41 |
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Is there a moddable digital version of this game for sale anywhere?
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# ? May 30, 2010 18:00 |
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Rascyc posted:Is there a moddable digital version of this game for sale anywhere? The Steam version is moddable, and OBSE even works with it. The Direct2Drive version is not compatible with OBSE, but non-OBSE mods will still work.
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# ? May 30, 2010 18:02 |
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Nice OP, but the link to "The Oblivion Quest List" just goes to the COBL mod. I think http://knol.google.com/k/toql-the-oblivion-quest-list is the link you were looking for.
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# ? May 30, 2010 19:53 |
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You won't trick me with this again. Every time one of these threads comes along I do this, load up the mods, do that 1 hour god drat walk through the dungeon, and then get some goofy errors and the game crashes. The real "game" of this game is trouble shooting mods.
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# ? May 30, 2010 20:17 |
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If I've never played Oblivion before (I have played Morrowind and Fallout 3) should I go whole-hog with TCOM or try something more conservative?
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# ? May 30, 2010 20:36 |
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Great OP. TR0LL's username is spelled with a zero, though, not an O. It might also be worth mentioning TES4LODGen, which is included in TCOM and seems to work really well.trashcanman posted:You won't trick me with this again. Every time one of these threads comes along I do this, load up the mods, do that 1 hour god drat walk through the dungeon, and then get some goofy errors and the game crashes.
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# ? May 30, 2010 20:39 |
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Periodiko posted:If I've never played Oblivion before (I have played Morrowind and Fallout 3) should I go whole-hog with TCOM or try something more conservative? No you pretty much want to overhaul the entire game. It's an amazing looking game but it the mechanics don't have that Morrowind magic by default, which is what all the mods are supposed to do. If you can get them to work.
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# ? May 30, 2010 21:45 |
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Periodiko posted:If I've never played Oblivion before (I have played Morrowind and Fallout 3) should I go whole-hog with TCOM or try something more conservative? If you are going to mod it, go whole-hog and use TomCom. It has too much stuff for you to do (as far as with your character and playing the game) as it is, yet is stable and works great. If you never know vanilla Oblivion you'll never know true disappointment. EDIT For anyone whose been using TOMCOM, I've found a few other missing meshes besides the one in the bank using Form ID Finder. The missing mesh in the bank is crumpled paper, and there are a few other ones around in TOMCOM too. The rest of the missing meshes are from 'Adventure Pack 1', a merged grab bag of quests and locations made by Tr0ll. However, even in the case where I found a chest it's no problem, because Form ID Finder lets you interact with whatever the object is. KakerMix fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 30, 2010 |
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Not sure if the game does this without low poly grass but when traveling along a grassy area I can clearly see the grass pop up a few feet in front of me as I move forward, which doesn't look very nice. Is there a way to fix this or does it take a massive toll on system resources or something?
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# ? May 30, 2010 22:00 |
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Rookoo posted:Not sure if the game does this without low poly grass but when traveling along a grassy area I can clearly see the grass pop up a few feet in front of me as I move forward, which doesn't look very nice. If you are using Streamline I believe it alters grass distance on the fly. If not, besides maxing the distance in the options the only recourse you have is altering your .ini file.
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Periodiko posted:If I've never played Oblivion before (I have played Morrowind and Fallout 3) should I go whole-hog with TCOM or try something more conservative? My recommendation is to always play through first - or at least to the point where you start to get angry at mechanics and things. The only real mods you should be using the first playthrough are DarnUI (makes the UI more PC like and better looking) and the Unofficial Patches. That, and maybe SM Plugin Refurbish, which stops the DLC messages from popping up the first time you start. Once it gets to the point where you're genuinely angry at certain parts of the game, start modding it.
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# ? May 30, 2010 22:04 |
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If your Imperial City Waterfront District is loving up, turn off Mart's Mutant Mod - Diverse Waterlife. I have no idea why this happens.
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Vincent Valentine posted:If your Imperial City Waterfront District is loving up, turn off Mart's Mutant Mod - Diverse Waterlife. The Diverse waterlife that comes with MMM in TCOM is an old version. Updating to a new version should fix the problem. New version here: http://www.4shared.com/file/PsOSj34V/MMMDiverseWaterLifeUpdate.html
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Revdomezehis posted:Nice OP, but the link to "The Oblivion Quest List" just goes to the COBL mod. I think http://knol.google.com/k/toql-the-oblivion-quest-list is the link you were looking for. Woebin posted:Great OP. TR0LL's username is spelled with a zero, though, not an O. It might also be worth mentioning TES4LODGen, which is included in TCOM and seems to work really well. Whoops, thanks for the heads up. I'm also inclined to agree with Gyshall, since I tend to find adding mods without really knowing what they're changing is a sure fire way of ending up with a bloated load order. If you've played and enjoyed Morrowind though you'll probably find yourself wanting to add mods after a few hours.
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# ? May 31, 2010 00:58 |
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Rookoo posted:Not sure if the game does this without low poly grass but when traveling along a grassy area I can clearly see the grass pop up a few feet in front of me as I move forward, which doesn't look very nice. If you are using HDR it should fade in, instead of abruptly sort of cutting off. Otherwise it will look ugly as gently caress, no matter what you do. fake edit: OBGE MIGHT gently caress with this since the grass fade is a shader effect.
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:00 |
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I recently played through a mostly vanilla game with only the DarniUI mod installed. I did cheat and give myself a million gold and the skeleton key. Makes the game much more enjoyable IMO.
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:32 |
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Cartoon Man posted:I recently played through a mostly vanilla game with only the DarniUI mod installed. I did cheat and give myself a million gold and the skeleton key. Makes the game much more enjoyable IMO. And now you should mod in loving EVERYTHING, run around with dual swords, plane-shifting into different dimensions, hunt deer and make your own clothes, chop down trees and make your own weapons and furniture, cook your own meals with a variety of different recipes, buy a ship and sail around Elsweyr, head-hunt elves from Vallenwood for their skulls, conquer the vast underground Alyied complex underneath the mountains, camp out in the desert to wake up in a dust storm, summon yourself a dwarven robot that is also a motorcycle and then retire, in the sky, on your very own dwarven airship. Oblivion is really just a giant, moddable toy box to me anymore.
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:39 |
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True Story: I still haven't finished the main campaign.
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KakerMix posted:And now you should mod in loving EVERYTHING, run around with dual swords, plane-shifting into different dimensions, hunt deer and make your own clothes, chop down trees and make your own weapons and furniture, cook your own meals with a variety of different recipes, buy a ship and sail around Elsweyr, head-hunt elves from Vallenwood for their skulls, conquer the vast underground Alyied complex underneath the mountains, camp out in the desert to wake up in a dust storm, summon yourself a dwarven robot that is also a motorcycle and then retire, in the sky, on your very own dwarven airship. Are you listing features of real mods?
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:44 |
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Periodiko posted:Are you listing features of real mods? Possibly, though there's a suspicious lack of nudity in that list which may make me think otherwise. Yes all of those are real
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:50 |
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I've only seen a few of those, but I would assume the rest are real. I thought the robot turned into a go-kart sort of vehicle, though.
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:51 |
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m2pt5 posted:I've only seen a few of those, but I would assume the rest are real. Isn't that the same mod that includes the spell Summon Cheese Atronach?
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Dr Snofeld posted:Isn't that the same mod that includes the spell Summon Cheese Atronach? Yeah Midas Magik. It actually owns though and you don't have to create the retarded spells unless you really want to.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Isn't that the same mod that includes the spell Summon Cheese Atronach? Sure is. Midas Magic Spells of Aurum contains quite a few silly/stupid spells, but it also contains many fantastically useful and/or indispensable spells.
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# ? May 31, 2010 02:58 |
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Used the old thread OP to reinstall Oblivion last week, ran into a few troubles but it seems to crash after playing for about 15 mins and then crashes regularly till I restart. The 4GB patch sounds like it might help though, thanks a bunch. I noticed you don't have Unnecessary Violence in the OP anymore. I have a feeling it's been causing the odd problem (like a crash or two and sometimes not being able to attack randomly) but I wasn't sure if it was it or Deadly Reflexes. Is it no longer desirable?
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Periodiko posted:Are you listing features of real mods? Yes I am, and I should note that I am using TCOM with other stuff thrown in, at once, but my game isn't quite as stable as 'vanilla' TCOM. However, it is loving awesome. Here is a list of where the mods are and what they are in: Dual-Swords: There are a *lot* of different mods for this, but even in its beta and unstable stage Unnecessary Violence. It changes combat drastically, allows you to change your grip on weapons among other things. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24936 Different Dimmensions: There are, again, lots of mods that allow things like this, a few are Midas Magic (included in TCOM and mentioned in the OP), The Nether or Dimensional Pocket. Midas Magic also is responsible for the dwarven robot that turns into a The make your own clothes/cook your meals/build furniture/forge your own weapons and armor is from Crafty Bits and COBL (both inlcuded in TCOM, COBL is also mentioned in the OP) and really adds a lot. If you know about Harvest Moon it's quite the same satisfaction to be had. The ship buying and sailing around Elsywer are symptoms of Elsweyr the Deserts of Anequina which adds Elsywer. It isn't complete outside of the landscape but just having a completely new type of land to discover is fantastic. New animals, new structures, weapons, armors, RIDABLE ELEPHANTS, it just adds much needed 'newness' to the game. To get a ship, however, you need Side's Sailing Ships which, I might add, are the best handling and implemented 'vehicles' in any mod of Oblivion. You can sail and walk around your ship at the same time it's moving, and take some friends with you. Once you have a portable home (Curious Clara is the best ship fyi) you'll never want a typical home again. As a bonus Side's ships are also COBL supported, meaning they have everything you need to cook and craft while kicking it on your ships. The giant (and I mean loving HUGE, the biggest single anything I've ever seen in Oblivion) Alyied complex is a part of Frostcrag Reborn (included in TCOM), a re-imagining of the somewhat lame Frostcrag DLC from Bethesda. That Alyied complex is one of the coolest things I have experience in this game. When you get tired of the sissy flying carpet or your traditional ship you upgrade to your very own Dwemer Skyship and fly to anywhere your heart desires. This mod is serious awesome stuff, even if the actual flying is a little hokey and the voice acting blows, but cmon, your OWN AIRSHIP. It functions as a house also, perched wherever you want to fly it. Also comes with a parachute. So yeah, the Oblivion I run looks, feels, and plays like a completely different game than vanilla. This is why this game still rules hard so many years later. EDIT Furret Basket posted:I noticed you don't have Unnecessary Violence in the OP anymore. I have a feeling it's been causing the odd problem (like a crash or two and sometimes not being able to attack randomly) but I wasn't sure if it was it or Deadly Reflexes. Is it no longer desirable? KakerMix fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 31, 2010 |
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KakerMix posted:And now you should mod in loving EVERYTHING, run around with dual swords, plane-shifting into different dimensions, hunt deer and make your own clothes, chop down trees and make your own weapons and furniture, cook your own meals with a variety of different recipes, buy a ship and sail around Elsweyr, head-hunt elves from Vallenwood for their skulls, conquer the vast underground Alyied complex underneath the mountains, camp out in the desert to wake up in a dust storm, summon yourself a dwarven robot that is also a motorcycle and then retire, in the sky, on your very own dwarven airship. wait, what. Looking around TES has just led me to believe that Oblivion is just a sex simulator now.
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# ? May 31, 2010 03:26 |
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d3c0y2 posted:wait, what. TES is still the best place for mods, and although looking around would have you believe that Cyrodill is a place of bare, volley-ball sized tits and couch-sized asses where nipple rings count as armor and the best swords are the largest, most spikey and neon-colored pieces of poo poo you can imagine there are some real gems. Oblivion is like 3 games, finding the mods, installing mods, and then actually playing the game.
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# ? May 31, 2010 03:33 |
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Thanks for doing this. I fell out of playing Oblivion after a re-format, and never properly got back in, which in turn killed my motivation for updating the OP. I closed the old thread to avoid confusion. Thanks again, and great OP.
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# ? May 31, 2010 03:39 |
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For those of you using Midas Magic: I made the Mega Fireball spell, got to cast it a few times, then it stopped working. The few casts after the first, they traveled forward and then stopped without exploding. Then the few after that they never even bothered traveling. Now if I cast it, it just appears in front of me and does nothing. I would really like a go-to "kill a bunch of dudes" spell that works Or is there a better one than the mega fireball? There's dozens of spells I can't be bothered to try them all.
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KakerMix posted:Deadly Reflexes works perfectly and shouldn't cause issues. Unnecessary Violence, however, can cause quite a few. I know Tr0ll said he uses it as do I, but it does cause a lot of instability. I find it worth it but some people might not. You can still safely use it though, even though it is pretty busted at least it's very compatible. Whenever the fabled version II of UV is supposed to come out apparently fixes all the issues as it has been built from the ground up. I can't wait. Okay, I think I'll disable it. A bunch of the mods you've mentioned should really be in the OP. The crafting ones sound fantastic.
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# ? May 31, 2010 03:46 |
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Vincent Valentine posted:For those of you using Midas Magic: I made the Mega Fireball spell, got to cast it a few times, then it stopped working. If you have the Airship mod you can call fire support and kill a bunch of dudes If you also have Deadly Reflexes, you can use the 'Force Push' spell (one of the best spells in Midas) and blow those fuckers over, then run over and stab those fuckers in the chest executioner style. Some might call it cheating, I call it badass. EDIT fuckers KakerMix fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 31, 2010 |
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Vincent Valentine posted:True Story: I still haven't finished the main campaign. Who has? Every time I spend a day modding Oblivion and finally getting it to work, I feel Over Encumbered () by just the sheer amount of stuff to do. I exit the sewers, feel overwhelmed by how large and how many dungeons there are, and reinstall a year later. I never learn.
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# ? May 31, 2010 04:12 |
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bef posted:Who has?
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# ? May 31, 2010 05:04 |
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Brutus Salad posted:Is it wrong that when I beat the main story, I restarted an early save because I found out that killing Dagon cuts off you're access to Sigil stones? Again, with Midas Magic, there is a spell available (once you get a specific item I believe) that allows you to summon Oblivion Gates at will. How awesome is that?
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# ? May 31, 2010 05:06 |
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I got the gardening mod that allows you to plant and grow your own plants, I dont think I'm ever leaving my drat house/front yard... haha Oblvion the farming sim! (drat kids get off my lawn or so help me I'll wallop ya'll with my enchanted Daedric Claymore!)
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Brutus Salad posted:Is it wrong that when I beat the main story, I restarted an early save because I found out that killing Dagon cuts off you're access to Sigil stones? I reloaded because I killed the guy in two quick hits. After reloading I stripped completely naked and punched him to death. Still wasn't very challenging.
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