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Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Used the old thread OP to reinstall Oblivion last week, ran into a few troubles but it seems to crash after playing for about 15 mins and then crashes regularly till I restart. The 4GB patch sounds like it might help though, thanks a bunch.

I noticed you don't have Unnecessary Violence in the OP anymore. I have a feeling it's been causing the odd problem (like a crash or two and sometimes not being able to attack randomly) but I wasn't sure if it was it or Deadly Reflexes. Is it no longer desirable?

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Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

KakerMix posted:

Deadly Reflexes works perfectly and shouldn't cause issues. Unnecessary Violence, however, can cause quite a few. I know Tr0ll said he uses it as do I, but it does cause a lot of instability. I find it worth it but some people might not. You can still safely use it though, even though it is pretty busted at least it's very compatible. Whenever the fabled version II of UV is supposed to come out apparently fixes all the issues as it has been built from the ground up. I can't wait.

Okay, I think I'll disable it.

A bunch of the mods you've mentioned should really be in the OP. The crafting ones sound fantastic.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Okay, I haven't finished the main campaign either but this-

Gyshall posted:

Hey, you and I both, bro. Have you ever gone to Shivering Isles? I haven't.

Is a mistake. Shivering Isles owns.

Anyway, I installed Craftybits and I really like it, but a weird thing is happening, basically almost everytime I use the CB key on a cutting board to turn it into another board Oblivion crashes. It works maybe one in three times, every other time the game hangs. Anyone have any ideas what this could be?

Here's my load order, it's been BOSSified -

code:
Oblivion.esm
GTAesgaard_2.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
BetterMusicSystem.esm
CLS-Craftybits.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
RAEVWD Cities.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
RAEVWD Imperial City.esp
AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsBASE.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
GTAesgaard_2.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
CLS-Craftybits.esp
CLS-CB-Cobl.esp
AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsVANILLA.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
MiniMap.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
[edit]

I'm using OBSE 0018, is that right? It seems to be the latest one on the website.

[edit]

I think it's DeadlyReflex. If I disable DeadlyReflex then CraftyBits doesn't crash at all. That's terrible, I like both these mods a lot.
KakerMix what version of Craftybits and DeadlyReflex are you using to have them coexisting properly?

Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 31, 2010

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Removed the skills mod, built a Wyre Bash patch and Craftybits isn't crashing anymore at least.

Thanks a bunch guys.

[edit]

Scratch that, hey guys it's me again.

Craftybits is working now, but even worse than CB dying is that the game is now crashing about every five miutes without fail. It wasn't doing this before I made a Bashed Patch. I've tried disabling the Bashed Patch but it's still happening. (Does Wyre Bash do any other crazy things?) Not sure what to do here. It's completely unplayable now. :(

All I'm doing is wandering around cities, the exterior, anything and Oblivion just dies after five minutes.

code:
Oblivion.esm
GTAesgaard_2.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
BetterMusicSystem.esm
CLS-Craftybits.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
RAEVWD Cities.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
RAEVWD Imperial City.esp
AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsBASE.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
GTAesgaard_2.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
CLS-Craftybits.esp
CLS-CB-Cobl.esp
AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsVANILLA.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
MiniMap.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
I tried loading Deadly Reflex last but same deal.

I know this isn't much to go on, but I don't really have anything to go on either. :(

Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 18:19 on May 31, 2010

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Vincent Valentine posted:

Has anyone played Mystery of Mausoleum? It's Feature list is pretty inviting, but there's no information at all about what kind of adventure it is.

The images on TESNexus make it look like a soft porn adventure.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

KakerMix posted:

When you build the based patch, are you going through and making sure that the relevant options that are checked ALSO have their sub-options checked? This needs to be.

Outside of that you could try turning off Salmo the Baker, I don't know about now but back in the day that loving .esp caused all sorts of crazy havoc.

Yeah I did.

I'll try turning off Salmo.
I've disabled Cobl and Crafty completely and the crashes have stopped. I'm really confused though because the crashes weren't there before I did a Bashed Patch, and as soon as I did it then it's crashing constantly. The only way I've managed to fix them sofar is by killing Cobl and Crafty.
How does this make any sense? :confused:

[edit]

Disabled Salmo and I think the crashes may have subsided, Deadly Reflex works, Craftybits key works. Uh that's weird. What does Salmo the Baker even do? I thought it just added an NPC. Thanks for all the help, sorry for spamming the thread with my woes.

I'm sure I'll be back. Hell yeah, Oblivion. :downs:

Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 31, 2010

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Kiggles posted:

Did some research and it looks like craftybits is included in cobl. Get rid of crafty bits and recheck your cobl install to make sure all the relevant stuff is there.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Cobl/Mods

The page lists mods for Cobl first and then at the bottom has a list of included mods. Craftybits isn't one of the included ones.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

KakerMix posted:

I never noticed a difference either, with multiple plugins. You might try looking for a 'carry corpse' spell, I know one comes with a guard overhaul plugin.

Rens Guard Overhaul includes corpse carrying. http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=1603&comment_page=5

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
OK Oblivion now crashes for me about every 1-2 hours. I can live with that. Is that normal for this level of modding?

Also is it normal for everytime Oblivion closes to come up with the "Oblivion has encountered a problem" thing? Even when I close it from the main menu.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

OpusD posted:

I can't get Wrye Bash to work at all. I installed python-2.6.5 and then wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-2.8.11.0-py26. Double clicking the Wrye Bash Launcher.pyw icon makes a tiny window pop up that says Initializing Windows... then it disappears and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong here?

This is my first time doing anything beyond using OOO. I could follow the OP completely until the part about Wrye Bash.

Can you try running

code:
python bash.py
from the command line and see what error Python spits out?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

OpusD posted:

I'm assuming you mean from the python command line.

Gives me...
Python 2.6.5 (r265:79096, Mar 19 2010, 21:48:26) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> python bash.py
File "<stdin>", line 1
python bash.py
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>

No, I mean your windows command line. cd to the Mopy directory and run it from "python bash.py".

Python and WX are clearly working for you so there's another problem somewhere and the easiest way of getting an error from Python is this.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Oh, Python probably doesn't get added to the Windows path by default. Sigh. I'm pretty sure that if you run bash.py from Exploper (right-click, open with, Python) the stdout window will close as soon as it crashes out.

If you want to add Python to your system path.

1) Control Panel
2) System
3) Advanced
4) Environment Variables
5) In the system variables table find PATH, edit the value and put ;C:\Python26;C:\Python26\Lib;C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages on to the end of the value. (Path values are separated by ; Don't under any circumstances remove the contents of this variable, just append to it.)
6) OK, OK, OK

You'll have to restart the command line for Windows to pick up on path changes. If you can be bothered to do this then try running Wyre Bash again as before, from the Mopy directory, "python bash.py".

[edit]

I'm assuming you've installed Python to C:\Python26 - if this isn't the case alter the paths above as necessary.

Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 1, 2010

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
... Not really possible. If you add a directory to your path properly then you'll be able to run any executable in there from any other location.

If you've installed Python properly then you should have a C:\Python26\python.exe Which will run if you do "python" from anywhere once C:\Python26 is in your path.

I really don't know what else to say. =/

What exactly have you got in your path environment variable now?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Oh whoops, add ;C:\Python26 on to it too. Sorry, I'll ammend my post.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Ooooo kay so the problem is with wxPython. It's installed properly but something is wrong.

It's pretty odd, I'm using the same version of Python + wx but I'm on Windows 7. I'm not sure if that would make too much of a different.

The Wyre Bash readme says to use Python 2.5 and wxPython 2.8.7.1, but there are no binary installers of 2.8.7.1 for Python 2.6. ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxpython/files/wxPython/2.8.7.1/ )

I dunno if you wanted to try again but with Py 2.5, it might not make a difference.

Have you done something weird like install a 64bit version of Python and a 32bit version of wxPython? It's best to stick to 32bit versions of Python really even on a 64bit machine.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
FYI Python 2.5 will install separately to C:\Python25 and so if you run from the command line as your path stands you'll be running Python 2.6. Change your path if you want to make sure you run 2.5.

You'll also have to make sure you get the wxPython installer for Python 2.5 if you do.

[edit]

Wait, wait, wait where do you have Oblivion installed? It might be a UAC issue. Have you tried running Wyre Bash as an administrator?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

OpusD posted:

I have UAC disabled entirely because it is an annoying piece of poo poo. Oblivion is installed to the default directory. I haven't tried running Wyre Bash as administrator.

Looks like I don't even have the run as admin option anymore since I disabled UAC. But I'll uninstall python and wxpython and try the 2.5 versions.

Okay.

Also try redownloading and reinstalling Wyre Bash, apparently that error code is thrown up when wx has a problem loading images. (particularly icons) Maybe one of the images is corrupted somehow.

Typical for it not to be an error that directly means anything, eh? Totally no excuse for that...

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Glad you got it all working OpusD. :)

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

OpusD posted:

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Only load one or none of these!

Also try to load Deadly Reflex last. (Before your Bashed Patch though.)

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
What is this? Is it a bug or part of Mart's Monster Mod or what? Whatever it is it's awful.


Click here for the full 1920x1080 image.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Periodiko posted:

Some of the good mods do this as well (archaeology guild one, I think its lost spires?)

On this note, I've been playing Lost Spires and it's really bloody good. It's a mite heavy on the rewards ("You picked a lock and spoke to me, congrats, here's 5k worth of magical swords.") and the voice acting is really poo poo at times, it's mostly bearable but a couple of characters you just read the text as fast as you can and skip the voices. (Oh hey Teav, can you talk any slower and in an even more grating tone?)

Thank god he dies.

Other than that it's brilliant.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Whyyyyyyyyy

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Average Bear posted:

Yeah, just install the 32 bit installers, not the 64 bit. That should fix it.

Edit2: It did. If you are running a 64 bit system, download the 32 bit (x86) version anyway. Python, that is. Otherwise, Bash will not be able to read it.

Yeah mentioned this earlier in the thread. Wyre Bash relies on various libraries that don't have 64bit releases, 64bit Python wont know wtf to do with 32bit libs.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
I use the Redimized version of QTP3 and Better Cities, my framerate is absolutely fine apart from in the Imperial City and Bravil where it starts to poo poo itself a little. It's totally playable since they're not combat areas.

I've got a core i7 and a GTX 260. It's not a modest machine but goes to show how much Better Cities really needs. I don't think QTP3 slowed anything down that much at all.
Open Better Cities made it nearly unplayable.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Low poly grass might help a bit. Do you have Better Cities? Make sure you have the redimized version of QTP btw, it seemed to make a big difference switching to that for me.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Periodiko posted:

I'm playing OOO+MMM with Deadly Reflex, why do the monsters I'm fighting keep spontaneously tripping and falling on the ground for no reason. It's awful and I hate it.

I hate it even more when my character starts doing it.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Periodiko posted:

What mod is doing it though? Deadly Reflex?

I think it is, though I could be wrong. I am using Fans and MMM, not OOO.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Saw this on reddit and thought of you guys.



Do you like nude patches? -> No -> Yes you do. :v:

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Boosted_C5 posted:

I know literally nothing about computers and am very lost.

Game crashes right after start-up

What am I doing wrong?

https://wi.somethingawful.com/29/293976f65ab4bf40d44f4193752fb72233d129b8.png

Have you tried running BOSS. Seriously use BOSS, it's magic.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

hammeredspace posted:

No, I've fallen for this before. I did exactly what was in the OP. Things didn't work. There really isn't that much more I can tell you. And now you come along all "no no no; THIS is the order of events to make a computer game happen?" Honk; already spent hours trying to get it to go the first time, got other things I can do, like play a game that actually works.


Look at the thread title and tell me you didn't know what you were getting yourself in to.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

joats posted:

I just want to play TES with more than 5 voice actors.

The best part is when two NPCs have a little conversation with each other and they have the same exact voice.

My immersioooon! :arghfist:

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Anathema Device posted:

When you rebuild your patch in Wyre Bash check the Tweak Assorted option and check the Nvidia Fog Fix option. That should sort it.

If you're not using a bashed patch for some reason just use this

Oh thanks for that tip. I thought it was just some weirdness that I thought I would just have to live with, and have been doing.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Also it actually works.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Dr Snofeld posted:

Has anyone played that 28 Days Later (or whatever it's called) zombie mod? There's no way it could really be as fun as it is in my head, right?

Are you refering to this one: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19086 ?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Deadly Reflexes does not like to be paired with much of anything, it causes crashes with even seemingly unrelated mods like Craftybits for me.
I've just had to let it go.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Gyshall posted:

The best advice for modding any Bethesda game is to start off with just the mods that change what you want changed.

The problem is that when it comes to Oblivion the answer is "Everything, except The Dark Brotherhood."

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Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

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Gilg posted:

Maybe I missed a new thread that mentioned it, but Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim was announced today. Release date 11/11/11, 11 months from now.

Edit: Thread.

This thread will probably be very happy to hear that it's using a brand new engine. Finally.

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