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Lincoln`s Wax
Apr 30, 2000
My other, other car is a centipede filled with vaginas.

Ask away!

I'll start: How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if said woodchuck had chainsaws for arms and a GAU-8 for a mouth?

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Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004


Tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty


Fun Shoe

Lincoln`s Wax posted:

Ask away!

I'll start: How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if said woodchuck had chainsaws for arms and a GAU-8 for a mouth?

The woodcuck could chuck 47 board feet of wood before he ran out of ammunition and died.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Miso Beno posted:

The woodcuck could chuck 47 board feet of wood before he ran out of ammunition and died.

How much is that in MDF?

widefault
Mar 16, 2009


Reposted from the end of the last thread.

Two questions...

1.) Contemplating a dedicated setup for my Ceiner 1911 .22lr conversion kit. Am I better off building from a bare frame or buying a cheap 1911 and discarding/selling/stashing slide/barrel? I'm leaning towards building since it could be cheaper than buying a whole extra 1911. Not like I need high-end parts for what will be a plinker.

2.) Where in the US might a man be able to take his dad to fire an M79 grenade launcher? My dad carried one in Vietnam, and to this day one of his big wants is to fire one again. He'd be happy with chalk rounds, he just wants to fire one again. I'm trying to convince him to spend some of my inheritance on an actual M79, but no luck with that. Yet.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

widefault posted:

Reposted from the end of the last thread.

2.) Where in the US might a man be able to take his dad to fire an M79 grenade launcher? My dad carried one in Vietnam, and to this day one of his big wants is to fire one again. He'd be happy with chalk rounds, he just wants to fire one again. I'm trying to convince him to spend some of my inheritance on an actual M79, but no luck with that. Yet.

Look around for class III dealers who rent machine guns or have machine gun shoots.

My question: What the hell do I do about the rings forming in my .357 cylinder when I shoot .38? I've tried brass-brushing the piss out of it with some Hoppes, but no dice.

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009


widefault posted:

Reposted from the end of the last thread.

2.) Where in the US might a man be able to take his dad to fire an M79 grenade launcher? My dad carried one in Vietnam, and to this day one of his big wants is to fire one again. He'd be happy with chalk rounds, he just wants to fire one again. I'm trying to convince him to spend some of my inheritance on an actual M79, but no luck with that. Yet.

Gtab, Pacific Rim Job, Highmeh, and myself went to an indoor range in Vegas that I can't remember the name of. They had an M79 there you could rent and pay per shot. Gtab shot a beehive round out of it.

You could also go down to Louisville, KY and hit the Knob Creek range at one of their machine gun shoots. I'm sure someone there would have one to shoot.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009



I bet that FA range in Georgia either has one or could point you to one. Where are you located?

Gray Stormy
Dec 19, 2006



UPDATE

Not too long ago I inquired about he legalities of machining an AR lower.

After speaking with members of the CNC Gunsmithing forum and a consultation with an attorney, it appears that as long as I am the person that presses the 'Go' button and the lower is for me; I am 100% legal.

I will be taking it a step further by keeping my cousins role 'supervisory.'

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Gonna get this out of the way now


ANSWER ONE: Glocks suck.


u gtab

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

pre:
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CLUTCH  NIXON
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The Hero We Need


widefault posted:

1.) Contemplating a dedicated setup for my Ceiner 1911 .22lr conversion kit. Am I better off building from a bare frame or buying a cheap 1911 and discarding/selling/stashing slide/barrel? I'm leaning towards building since it could be cheaper than buying a whole extra 1911. Not like I need high-end parts for what will be a plinker.

A "cheap" 1911 is still going to run you $300+ (unless you're on good terms with crack/meth-heads and don't mind wiping the previous owner's blood off the gun), but has the advantage of being complete and functional. (Optimally; you can always buy busted poo poo, maybe save a few bucks there - Bubba is always selling Frankenguns.) It also allows the option of just throwing the centerfire top end back on if needed.

A bare-frame build can start out cheaper, and even stay there depending on what parts you can come up with at a discount; your main issue is going to be the specialised tools and operations needed to fit and finish the gun - you won't have to do a lot of the frame/barrel-specific fitting (upper lugs, barrel hood, headspacing and chamber finishing, bushing/barrel fitting), but all the vital clockworkery (hammer/sear/thumb safety is the most finicky) will still need to be done.

This can be simplified somewhat by using "pre-fit" parts - my method was to buy a baggie of parts that all came off the same 1911, and thus had been (presumably) functioning and fitted properly, and drop them into a used (and apparently properly working) frame. A number of companies offer pre-fitted hammer/sear sets, but you still may need to tweak those - and they're (usually) not cheap.

If you want the experience (albeit limited in scope) of building a 1911, the bare-frame method will be fine - especially as a dedicated .22 will skip some of the more difficult barrel/slide work. However, it's both unlikely to cost less, and may possibly not work as well, as a "complete lower" build.

If I was making another dedicated .22 myself, my first choice would be to try and scare up a used-but-mostly-functional complete pistol - a mangled feed-ramp (hello Dremel Dan!) won't mean a hell of a lot to a .22 kit, unless something *really* destructive was done. Second choice would be seeing what Foster Industries has on sale and (slowly) picking up all the other bits as I could afford them, then trying to sleaze the specialised tools rather than buy 'em.

thermobollocks posted:

My question: What the hell do I do about the rings forming in my .357 cylinder when I shoot .38? I've tried brass-brushing the piss out of it with some Hoppes, but no dice.

I've read somewhere that a fired .357 casing, with the case-edge sharpened, would work as a scraper for such deposits. Can anyone verify?

Ygolonac fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jun 11, 2010

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

DJExile posted:

Gonna get this out of the way now


ANSWER ONE: Glocks suck.


u gtab

second

TheStig
Jan 3, 2009

Just need to mount the guns on the car....


widefault posted:


2.) Where in the US might a man be able to take his dad to fire an M79 grenade launcher? My dad carried one in Vietnam, and to this day one of his big wants is to fire one again. He'd be happy with chalk rounds, he just wants to fire one again. I'm trying to convince him to spend some of my inheritance on an actual M79, but no luck with that. Yet.

There was a company making 37mm M79 Flare launchers a bit ago, if that would float his boat.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


I'm contemplating purchasing a handgun. What's the concensus on CZv82 vs. the CZ 75, aside from price.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



OWLS! posted:

I'm contemplating purchasing a handgun. What's the concensus on CZv82 vs. the CZ 75, aside from price.

They're both great guns, but for somewhat different reasons. What're you looking for out of a pistol?

Gtab
Dec 9, 2003
I am a horrible person, disregard my posts.

DJExile posted:

Gonna get this out of the way now


ANSWER ONE: Glocks suck.


u gtab

AND I, YOU.

OWLS! posted:

I'm contemplating purchasing a handgun. What's the concensus on CZv82 vs. the CZ 75, aside from price.

CZ75 hands down without even needing to consider anything involved besides the two gun models.

king of the bongo
Apr 26, 2008

If you're brown, GET DOWN!


OWLS! posted:

I'm contemplating purchasing a handgun. What's the concensus on CZv82 vs. the CZ 75, aside from price.

the 82 felt slimmer and made the webbing on my hand hurt a bit after a couple of mags compared to my 75 and p01 which don't hurt at all. All are very accurate. The trigger on the cz75 in DA or decocked DA can be a bit hard to reach with smaller hands and will tend in you pulling your shots low when you first get it. It is a bit easier with the p01 but it still catches you when you get lazy and in a hurry with maintaining a sight picture. I assume bigger hands would be fine with this.

Where are you located? What are you doing with the gun? Which version of the 75 were you looking at?

HFX
Nov 29, 2004


I like turtles posted:

I bet that FA range in Georgia either has one or could point you to one. Where are you located?

Wait, which one is this? If it is Bullseye in Lawrenceville, they only have FA guns for rent. It is an 25' indoor range. They might be able to point you to some other place though.

I have to mention the city because there is another Bullseye in Cumming. Most of the indoor ranges her let you shoot FA weapons. No .50 Brownings though.

widefault
Mar 16, 2009


TheStig posted:

There was a company making 37mm M79 Flare launchers a bit ago, if that would float his boat.

I've seen some of those, but they're more like an M203 with a pistol grip. There is a 40mm airsoft-like version that shoots plastic and foam rounds propelled by gas, but I don't know if that would be acceptable.

My dad has apparently done some checking and was told Knob Creek was a no, but I don't know who told him that. He still wants to go, so who knows.

We're in Wisconsin, so Vegas might be a bit far just for that. It's a start, though.

I still think he should just buy one. Who doesn't need a grenade launcher?

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



I've never been to Knob Creek but I have to imagine if any place would have one for rent it would be there.

Sgt. Shaved Balls
Sep 6, 2006

by Lowtax


DAVE!!!(c)(tm)
Feb 22, 2003


Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:



That's an answer to a question that shouldn't be asked. Still, thank you just for being you.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

That reminds me of the most awesome assignment I've ever had while working for the federal government. I was in Chicago, part of the U.S. contingent of the advance team for Lady Di's visit in the mid nineties. One of the things I had to do as part of the advance security detail was to hang out with one of Di's smoking hot personal assistants. Her job was was to wear different skirts and go up and down the stairs to the stage where Diana would be giving a speech. I had to stand at the bottom of the stairs and see if I could see up her skirt. We did this for hours. "Can you see up it now? How about from this angle? Stand over there. I'll go up the stairs again. Can you see up it now?" And then she would try a different skirt and we'd go through it all again.

They REALLY wanted to make sure no photographer got a Lady Di Panty Shot.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003



Secret Ooze posted:

UPDATE

Not too long ago I inquired about he legalities of machining an AR lower.

After speaking with members of the CNC Gunsmithing forum and a consultation with an attorney, it appears that as long as I am the person that presses the 'Go' button and the lower is for me; I am 100% legal.

I will be taking it a step further by keeping my cousins role 'supervisory.'

I've just devised a brilliant money making scheme for the crowd. Set up a machine shop where all the batshit-anti-government-UN gonna take my guns-nuts can come in, press a button, and out pops a machined lower receiver with no serial (since it's not required for firearms you manufacture yourself for your own use). Charge them $200 for it and live the good life. You'd have to have a big client list beforehand though, cause I'm sure the ATF would shut you down within a day of being in business. Anyone who attempts this owes me 30% of profits for the idea

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

U like it


charliebravo77 posted:

I've just devised a brilliant money making scheme for the crowd. Set up a machine shop where all the batshit-anti-government-UN gonna take my guns-nuts can come in, press a button, and out pops a machined lower receiver with no serial (since it's not required for firearms you manufacture yourself for your own use). Charge them $200 for it and live the good life. You'd have to have a big client list beforehand though, cause I'm sure the ATF would shut you down within a day of being in business. Anyone who attempts this owes me 30% of profits for the idea

pretty sure these places exist.

Locus
Feb 28, 2004

But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won.

I'm also pretty sure it's very difficult to create and maintain a foolproof "one-step" AR-15 receiver machine.

Pyruvate
Apr 4, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


charliebravo77 posted:

I've just devised a brilliant money making scheme for the crowd. Set up a machine shop where all the batshit-anti-government-UN gonna take my guns-nuts can come in, press a button, and out pops a machined lower receiver with no serial (since it's not required for firearms you manufacture yourself for your own use). Charge them $200 for it and live the good life. You'd have to have a big client list beforehand though, cause I'm sure the ATF would shut you down within a day of being in business. Anyone who attempts this owes me 30% of profits for the idea

So like those souvenir penny machines?

BaronW
Apr 16, 2007

Why yes, I HAVE seen uhaul.jpg

Pyruvate posted:

So like those souvenir penny machines?

PAY HERE, INSERT BILLET HERE, TURN CRANK

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006



Locus posted:

I'm also pretty sure it's very difficult to create and maintain a foolproof "one-step" AR-15 receiver machine.

Fully half the machining is cosmetic or at the very least non-critical. If the clients didn't care so much what they looked like, and/or depending on the type of mills at your disposal, you could get way closer to one receiver popping out per button-push. Here's an idea: figure out what steps need to be done to take an 90% forging and make it just barely functional. Write up your G-code, and have Bubba come hit the go switch. He goes and gets a cup of coffee (here's another idea: attach a coffee shop to your machine shop, so you get 'em from both sides!), comes back and picks up his ugly-but-functional, 100% legal untraceable blah blah buzzwords AR lower.

If you weren't married to the idea of a solid one-piece lower, bolting one together out of a few pieces seems like it would be really easy with some basic thinky-work.

edit: Thinking now about billet only, you could eliminate tons of machining passes if you made the receiver one continuous width along its entire length. Then you could sell custom extended trigger and hammer pins to fit your custom simplified lower design (cut them out of rod stock and make a hefty profit), or, for a fee, you could install the LPK for them.

walrusman fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jun 11, 2010

Enderby
Dec 30, 2004



I'm pretty sure some guy did what you guys are talking about. It was an %80 lower that was essentially bolted together so it required very basic machining processes to finish up. He ran into trouble with a service he offered to "help" a person finish one of his lowers. He was doing too much of the work or something like that so it wasn't a legit %80 lower anymore.

At least that's what I remember reading about, I could be wrong on some of the details.

hangedman
Dec 20, 2003

Fish out of water

thermobollocks posted:

My question: What the hell do I do about the rings forming in my .357 cylinder when I shoot .38? I've tried brass-brushing the piss out of it with some Hoppes, but no dice.

My solution was as follows:

1. Lay the cylinder on its side and swab shooter's choice liberally on the rings with a q-tip. Let soak for a few hours.
2. Flip cylinder upside down, repeat step one.
3. Cut the ring off a cleaning brush and attach it to either a dremel or cordless drill and run the thing on a low setting for about ten seconds per cylinder.

Repeat if needed.

Captain Slow
Jul 9, 2007

Breaker, Breaker, High Ball Ten Ten, Till We Do It Again, Captain Slow.


On my M-16 there is a button just behind the ejection port that angles out at 30%. What is this used for and what is it called? Because they haven't even mentioned it in training.

Eating the Pudding
Apr 28, 2009



The brass deflector? It's to keep brass from hitting you as it's ejected.

Edit. Wait you probably mean the forward assist. It's to mash your bolt into battery if necessary during malfunction.

Eating the Pudding fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jun 11, 2010

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Hey I'm turning 21 soon what specific handgun should I buy (in 9mm)

BONUS: I live in California and have no idea how the pistol laws work

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

しらんけど


GLOCKKK 19

DOJ website says all the major variations are approved for California

Illegal Clown
Feb 18, 2004



Eating the Pudding posted:

Edit. Wait you probably mean the forward assist. It's to mash your bolt into battery if necessary during malfunction.

That what it sounds like and is theoretically correct. In practice, the forward assist is just a useless button, but it is nice and springy so gives you something to play with if you get bored.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

Hey I'm turning 21 soon what specific handgun should I buy (in 9mm)

BONUS: I live in California and have no idea how the pistol laws work

SIG P226.

Gray Stormy
Dec 19, 2006



Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

Hey I'm turning 21 soon what specific handgun should I buy (in 9mm)

BONUS: I live in California and have no idea how the pistol laws work

Steyr M9

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


walrusman posted:

He goes and gets a cup of coffee (here's another idea: attach a coffee shop to your machine shop, so you get 'em from both sides!), comes back and picks up his ugly-but-functional, 100% legal untraceable blah blah buzzwords AR lower.
I'm picturing a coin/bill operated CnC with an attached coffee machine that you can move around from gun show to gun show.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.




How do I discourage insane dudes at the range from telling me their war stories and whatnot while I'm busy trying to shoot?

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


I usually say "Hey, I'd like to chat but I'm trying to shoot."

It might also help if you wear hot neon pink clothing.

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