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widefault posted:

1.) Contemplating a dedicated setup for my Ceiner 1911 .22lr conversion kit. Am I better off building from a bare frame or buying a cheap 1911 and discarding/selling/stashing slide/barrel? I'm leaning towards building since it could be cheaper than buying a whole extra 1911. Not like I need high-end parts for what will be a plinker.

A "cheap" 1911 is still going to run you $300+ (unless you're on good terms with crack/meth-heads and don't mind wiping the previous owner's blood off the gun), but has the advantage of being complete and functional. (Optimally; you can always buy busted poo poo, maybe save a few bucks there - Bubba is always selling Frankenguns.) It also allows the option of just throwing the centerfire top end back on if needed.

A bare-frame build can start out cheaper, and even stay there depending on what parts you can come up with at a discount; your main issue is going to be the specialised tools and operations needed to fit and finish the gun - you won't have to do a lot of the frame/barrel-specific fitting (upper lugs, barrel hood, headspacing and chamber finishing, bushing/barrel fitting), but all the vital clockworkery (hammer/sear/thumb safety is the most finicky) will still need to be done.

This can be simplified somewhat by using "pre-fit" parts - my method was to buy a baggie of parts that all came off the same 1911, and thus had been (presumably) functioning and fitted properly, and drop them into a used (and apparently properly working) frame. A number of companies offer pre-fitted hammer/sear sets, but you still may need to tweak those - and they're (usually) not cheap.

If you want the experience (albeit limited in scope) of building a 1911, the bare-frame method will be fine - especially as a dedicated .22 will skip some of the more difficult barrel/slide work. However, it's both unlikely to cost less, and may possibly not work as well, as a "complete lower" build.

If I was making another dedicated .22 myself, my first choice would be to try and scare up a used-but-mostly-functional complete pistol - a mangled feed-ramp (hello Dremel Dan!) won't mean a hell of a lot to a .22 kit, unless something *really* destructive was done. Second choice would be seeing what Foster Industries has on sale and (slowly) picking up all the other bits as I could afford them, then trying to sleaze the specialised tools rather than buy 'em.

thermobollocks posted:

My question: What the hell do I do about the rings forming in my .357 cylinder when I shoot .38? I've tried brass-brushing the piss out of it with some Hoppes, but no dice.

I've read somewhere that a fired .357 casing, with the case-edge sharpened, would work as a scraper for such deposits. Can anyone verify?

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Eating the Pudding posted:

He didn't say it was a smart idea, just possible. I bet there's a decent percentage of people that carry hammer down on a chambered round.

Not only do a lot of people still do this , Detonics specifically designed their pistol to be carried hammer down on a live round. The rear sight is mounted a bit forward, and the now-exposed surface is milled down to make it easier to cock the hammer.

If I wasn't trapped beind the nannywall, I'd even have a picture...

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I'm a bit late on the CDHP discussion, but if it's not hosed I'd take it. Other than the sights, the rest of it should be a straight-up HP clone, with some level of Hungarian construction/parts.

Wall o' Text:

"Many have noted an obvious similarity between the Charles Daly Hi-Power, the FN/Browning Hi-Power, and the FÉG PJK-9HP or P9/P9M. Just where does the Charles Daly Hi-Power fit into all of this? First, Charles Daly firearms are marketed by K.B.I., the importer of the FÉG Hi-Power pistols sold under the model number PJK-9HP. The CDHP was K.B.I.'s attempt to sell a more "upscale" Hi-Power that could be marketed as "Made in the U.S.A." KBI was able to do this by having most of the gun produced by FÉG in Hungary, with final assembly done here in the U.S. CDHP's having the serial number prefix of "HP" were assembled by Dan Wesson Inc., who assembled only about the first 500 of these pistols. Those having the prefix "HPM" were assembled by Magnum Research, Inc., who assembled the rest of the production run. In the end KBI determined that producing Hi-Powers this way was simply not cost effective. Michael Kassnar, president of K.B.I., is reported to have said that the company lost money on every single Charles Daly Hi-Power they sold.

From a design standpoint, the CDHP is simply the original, or early FÉG P9 updated with the extended safety lever and with the slide dovetails milled for Novak style sights. It is a true Hi-Power, and never used the FÉG in-house slide stop design so far as I can determine. Its only obvious mechanical difference from the P35 design lies in a firing pin retaining plate milled to accommodate the rear sight dovetail.

During the life of the CDHP, the dovetail sight slots were manufactured to two different sets of specifications. My understanding is that the Dan Wesson guns had dovetail slots set up to accept Novak sights of Browning Hi-Power dimensions, while the Magnum Research guns were set up to accept Novak sights of 1911 dimensions. I have seen one photograph of a CDHP having the "HPM" prefix equipped with Novak 1911 sights, and my own CDHP, which also has the "HPM" prefix, is set up with a 1911 sight from MMC, which is now defunct. Owners desiring Novak sights on their CDHP's should contact Novak to determine which set of dovetails their guns may have. K.B.I. and Charles Daly are now out of business.

Adaptability of Browning Parts. These pistols came with a lifetime warranty to the original owner and parts were available from Charles Daly Parts & Service at https://www.charlesdaly.com. However, since this firm is now out of business, it remains to be seen what will be done with their remaining CDHP parts. Adaptability of Browning parts, except for the firing pin retaining plate, should be similar to that of the first version of K.B.I.'s PJK-9HP, discussed above."

(directly copy/pasted from http://feghp.blogspot.com/2010/02/decoding-feg-hi-power.html)

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HFX posted:

Oh right, you were wanting a gun. Well when the ATF decides I can own 105 recoilless rifles I'll let you know how one works out.

All you need is the destructive-device tax stamp. Ski resorts apparently use 105 RRs as avalanche guns, according to the Wall Street journal article (front page, even) I read a number of years ago.

Nice to know where I can get one if I... have need of it.

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AbdominalSnowman posted:

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but can someone recommend me a few good lever-actions with an "Old West" aesthetic? I have been looking at stuff like the Henry Golden Boy, but everything I can find has been in the $600-1200+ range, which is more than I wanted to spend. Are there any decent lever actions that don't look all modern (I hate the look of Marlin lever actions, for example) that don't cost so much, or are they all that expensive?

I bought a (well) used .30-30 Ted Williams Model 100 (Sears rebrand of a Winchester 94NM) for about $230 earlier this year at a local gun shop - it's only slightly non-, mainly the fore-end wood.

Off Gunbroker, I got an Uberti-made .22 Winchester 1866 Yellowboy - pretty much maximum and then some, for about $400 all told.

You should be able to find new Henry .22s (not Golden Boys, though) in the $230-250 range, possibly less used. Marlin 39s are also nice, but not cheap, and the "Mountie" variant is the -est of them all. (I hate curved levers.)

For centerfire, there's a lot of choices, but varying prices - Yellowboys are uncheap, for example.

Trawl Gunbroker and see what rifles you like the looks of, then see what the prices end up at. Check gun shops, gun shows, estate sales and the like... a used-but-not-hammered huntin' rahful will be more affordable than Uncle Ray's safe queen, but you might get lucky.

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incredibull posted:

What should I look for in choosing an FFL delivery location? Prices, local taxes, etc.? So far I've been quoted anywhere from $20 and state sales tax to $100 and no sales tax, which doesn't even seem legal. I'm in WA state.

I personally looked for prices and distance - I'm in Spokane, and I could have gotten like $15 FFL fee... by driving to Wenatchee.

Another consideration is hours of operation - I'm an 8-5 full-time schlub, so I had to find one that I could get to after work and all.

As for sales tax, last I heard was that you (as the buyer) were supposed to fill out the form and send in the tax payment yourself; the only places I see charging sales tax, last time I looked at the Gunbroker list, were gun shops/storefront operations.

There's a list of FFLs at Gunbroker (which I can access at the moment or I'd add the URL), just search by zipcode & distance, then choose what feels like the best deal to you. You might also check around, to see if it turns out that "Honest Achmed's Low Low FFL Service" is a guy that receives the gun, then sells it some Canadian gangbanger or something.

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I like turtles posted:

Whenever I hear about Hitler's involvement in weapons production, I'm reminded of a seven year old boy.

AND THEN IT SHOULD HAVE HUGE GUNS THAT SHOOT FIRE AND CANDY AND BULLETS AND OTHER GUNS
Fuhrer, I don't believe that such a weapon exists, or is practical on an aircraft
CAN U AT LEAST MAKE IT DO SOME OF IT?
Well, we can put 20mm cannons in the nose and...
NO, MAKE IT BIGGER
Um, ok, I guess we can do 30mm cannons
THAT'S RIGHT WE CAN

Axe Reich?

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ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Yeah, if I buy it, its to keep it.

If I could flip it I would just give this couple whatever extra I got on it anyway. They need the money more then I do.

The funny thing is, when I started looking, the Colt Tax just doesn't seem to be in effect for these. Oh sure, people *ask* for a lot of money for them, but they don't get it. I really think $350-400 is about what it is actually worth, if they wanted to sell it in a reasonable amount of time.

I just saw a Colt Trooper, 6" .357, blue, unknown mechanically 9didn't play with it) for $335 private-party at the Spokane gun show weekend before last. If I'd have the money, I'd have checked it out and quite possibly bought it, just because $335 looked pretty good for a horsey-marked centerfire. <shrug>

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See if you can get some rat-shot loads made up, for beer-can exploding purposes.

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iyaayas01 posted:

Two questions -

First, I'm looking for a (relatively) cheap bare bones 1911 for carry purposes. Basically a standard 1911 with the usual basic refinements for carry (low profile Novak-esque sights, beavertail, commander hammer, beveled/flared ejection port, etc.) I don't need a super tactical slide serrations, frontstrap/backstrap checkering, extended ambidextrous controls, light rail behemoth (I've already got my Kimber, thank you very much ). I'm probably looking for something in the $400-600 range. Is RIA's stuff any good? I would like to carry it, so reliability is kind of important...I'm not requiring GLOCK PERFECTION, but something that chokes every 50 rounds isn't exactly going to work either.

Beaten, but n'thing the RIA Tactical. Excellent warranty, solid guns, lower prices, blah blah blah...

Also note that Washington is No Fun Allowed - no SBR/SBS/machine guns, AOWs are OK, silencers are possession-only, no in-state use. (Make a run for the border, in other words.)

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I've only gotten selected twice - first time was last spring, when I was unemployed but had gotten my interview in for my current job and was just awaiting the "you're hired" call. Kicked a letter back stating that I couldn't do jury duty unless they were willing to match my unemployment payments (since like $40/week or whatever they were gonna pay wasn't going to cut it). Never heard back on that one.

This spring, hey look another jury notice! Postponed to mid-July, all I had to do was call in the Friday before to see if they needed me for the upcoming week. No trials for two weeks, and I was free...

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infrared35 posted:

You've probably already narrowed it down, but it seems to be a single shot receiver even if it is a lever action, and it is probably a .22.

If it's a single-shot lever action, more than likely it's an Ithaca M49.





Holes seem to match up...

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ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

My roomate has been killing bandits with his Volcanic Pistol in Red Dead Redemption lately, and it is has re-kindled my interest in the Volcanic.

Can anyone tell me if there are any working (decently constructed) reproductions?

If they can make brand new LeMats I don't see why someone couldn't be producing Volcanic Pistols.

Not that I know of, and I've been haunting the cowboy forums of late. Part of the problem is the unique ammo of the original, which died off quick and *stayed* dead.

I could be wrong, since a Volcanic isn't something I'm actually interested in, but I vaguely recall it coming up multiple times on Tales Of The Gun - did a marathon of those one Saturday a few weeks back.

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ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Mainly I am curious if someone duplicated it chambered in something currently, like .22lr, or even one of the cowboy rounds that are making a comeback due to action shooting.

OK, you got me looking. There's a non-firing repro available (probably just one maker), but if you have time/skill/equipment...

http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2010/02/40-caliber-volcanic-rifle-by-charlie.html

http://garagegunsmithing.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=54&jfile=viewtopic.php&f=35&t=255

(Both are the same guy, as is the third link I'm posting next - the two rifle ones dupe, to some extent)

http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=3;t=22531

Ninjas have kidnapped President Lincoln. Are you a bad enough dude to make your own gun and rescue him?

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Illegal Clown posted:

Not the French. They didn't put safeties on until they got into semi auto rifles. I guess their doctrine was to not chamber a round until in contact and surrender.

Obligatory snarky-fix. Even though I know it's bullshit.

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Washington is a shall-issue state - if there are no issues prohibiting you from obtaining a CHL, you pay you $60-ish, fill out the forms and get fingerprinted, and you get your paper in the mail. 30 days max, unless you have no WA driver's license or ID/have not been resident for 90 days. Good for 5 years, $36 + fingerprint fee. CHL is handgun-only, no knives/nunchucks/brass knuckles and suchlike trash.

The only real hardware restrictions/prohibitions are: no SBS/SBR, no full-auto, silencers may be owned but not used in-state, and AOWs are OK. For non-NFA weapons, there's no registration of any sort; there is a 5-day waiting period for handgun purchases, unless you hold a CHL.

A few years back, Seattle mayor Greg Nickels rammed through a "no guns on city property" ordinance, but was told by his own police chief and city prosecutor that they wouldn't be enforcing it, since it was directly in violation of the state constitution and law. "State Attorney General Rob McKenna has said that state law pre-empts local authority to adopt firearms regulations, unless specifically authorized by law." Superior Court Judge Catherine Shaffer ruled: ""Seattle's Department of Parks and Recreation's Rule/Policy Number P 060-8.14 ("Firearms Rule") violates Washington law and on that basis, is null and void."" The current Seattle mayor (Mike McGinn) whined that "cities should have the to restrict guns in playgrounds, pools and community centers where children are present", and a Federal judge later dismissed a related suit, stating that the ""Second Amendment claim fails for the simple reason that the Second Amendment does not apply to the City of Seattle under current 9th Circuit law."" However, all this was back in February/March, and McDonald V Chicago was 28 June, so it could be that Seattle is poo poo out of luck. (I've not heard anything more, but I'm out in Spokane, not a Wetsider.)

Check out all the useful info: http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/#?st=WA

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Cyrano4747 posted:

I've heard from more than one person that the GSG .22LR AK47, for example, is a hilariously bad chunk of poo poo.

I've handled one in the store, and it certainly *feels* like a cheap hunk of poo poo. I'm also pretty sure it's been the same one not selling since they brought it in.

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Ninja Rope posted:

Advantage Arms supposedly makes the best 22lr kit for Glocks, and they also make a 1911 kit. I don't know of anyone that has ever used the 1911 kit, but if the Glock kits are as good as I've heard they might be worth researching.

Edit: Ciener also makes a 22lr kit for 1911's, but I hear he is / they are a pretty big douche.

I have an AdArms Standard (as opposed to the Target) model for the 1911, and I love it.

Quickie 1911 conversion rundown: Marvel is spendy and highly accurate; Tactical Solutions is spendy, not sure of the accuracy; AdArms is... mid-range, I'd say, for price, and is decently accurate (unless I'm shooting it); Kimber is about as low as non-import/Ceiner get. Ceiner the man is a dick, from all accounts, but his kits are usually decent, lower-priced units. (God forbid you need support.) Oh, and Colt made a bunch - the Ace is significantly better than the later Ace II, but you pay the pony tax. There were Argentinian-made Colt conversions as well, but I've not actually seen those for sale - apparently, they were license-built, just like the Sistema 1927s.

There's a few others - EAA had/has<?> one, and Wilson Combat as well. (Ceiner actually made some Kimber and Wilson units.) Kart used to make one that was highly regarded (at the time) for accuracy, and I think Marvel bought the rights to it.

Dedicated .22 1911s are more rare - Kimber and Colt. US PALM is building guns using a Marvel kit and Caspian frames, and those ain't cheap - list is $1500. Both the GSG and Chiappa guns are 1911-shaped, with some (not a lot of) parts compatibility. Armscor has a dedicated .22 listed, but the import status is still unknown, as is whether it's like the GSG/Chiappa or if it's an actual 1911. Supposedly, Umarex will be making a Colt-branded .22 1911, probably -shaped, and Umarex doesn't have a great rep.

It's not a cheap solution to owning a .22 handgun, compared to buying a Buckmark/Ruger. It does allow you to stick with the same feel and operation (other than recoil); if you swap the conversion on and off your centerfire pistol, it keeps the same trigger and controls as you normally use.

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Harry in Rio posted:

and some odd bits of 1919A4 Browning stuff that every Amish/Mennonite farm seems to have.

Wanna hear more about this.

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Kommienzuspadt posted:

yes. they are referring to all of its ergonomics and its various features that make it distinct + any of its Magpul accessories that are required to maximize its function and primary abilities and BUY NOW BUY MORE BUY NOW.

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Black Stormy posted:

Thats what I figured too, but I asked them, and I am going to have to remove it. It's not a huge deal, but the rule seems ridiculous. I guess that most people look at it as a game though, and not a training opportunity.

If that's the case, you should have to grind that rail off there too, as you're getting a weight advantageby having that when others don't.

Get one of those laser recoil-spring assemblies (LaserMax?) and swap the laser diode out for a high-output LED or something.

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Hmm, are they capable of behind-the-head wear? Like this:

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Quick ammo-shipping question - live ammunition is supposed to be marked as ORM-D (Hazardous Material or whatever), and signature is required, correct?

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I like turtles posted:

Yes on ORM-D, in theory yes on the signature, but UPS just leaves my poo poo at the front door normally.

Oh well, it's a double anyway - left on porch with ORM-D, but they sent me 20 100-boxes rather than the 4 500-round boxes they said they were sending. vv

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RE: the rimfire dryfiring - I have a .22 revolver (the fabled FIE Texas Ranger, which became the Heritage Rough Rider) which has had a bit of dryfiring done with it before I bought it. A couple chambers are peened pretty good, to the point that it takes serious effort to eject the round - I expect I should order that thing from Brownell's sometime.

The only problem with an O-ring "snap cap" is trying to extract it after your're done. Although, you could make one that had a metal rim everywhere except the strike area - which leads to carefully fiddling to get it aligned properly, and finicky machione work. (My idea was to just take a brass rod and mill it down to .22 dimensions, and see how long it took the solid-brass rim to deform.)

It only takes three dryfires to absolutely maul a used casing in my AdArms 1911 conversion, so drat right I'm not dryfiring that if I can avoid it.

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Wanton posted:

Is .22 lr okay to fire out of a 22 magnum revolver?
I know the Single-Six comes with 2 cylinders, why?

You'll get nicely smoked brass, at the very least, from firing .22LR in a .22 Mag cylinder. Some of the time you'll get splits, which is less important than in a reloadable casing, but still allows nice hot high-pressure gases to focus their attention on the inside of the cylinder - eventually, you might get pitting from it.

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Count Sacula posted:

So where does the bullet go when that happens? It can't go out the barrel, right? I'm aware this is probably a dumb question.

It'll go out the barrel, albeit faster and causing more wear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeeze_bore#Armour-piercing.2C_composite_non-rigid_.28APCNR.29

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OK, stupid metalwork question time - since I now own a WASR-22 (courtesy of Mishaco), I'm thinking that having the barrel threaded would be nice. About how much should this run, and would the front sight block need to be removed to do so? (There's a bit over 1/2 inch of space between the muzzle and the FSB.)

Stuff to jam on there include an AK-74-style muzzle break (not that it's needed in .22 LR hurr) and (eventually) a suppressor.

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Itchy Itchiford posted:

Thanks for the info. I pulled out the Federal bulk that I usually shoot and it's rated at 1255fps and 125ft lbs at the muzzle of a rifle so it's a no-go. Hopefully I can find something at Walmart that will work on the cheap, I don't have .22s to shoot expensive moon ammo

There's a lot of cheapo standard velocity out there - not sure if it meets the Blazer/Federal bulk price-point. You may be stuck with going to gunshows or shops, or maybe even mail-order. A semi-local pawn shop has/had Eley Sport for around $20-ish a brick, if I remember correctly. (This is the low-end plinking stuff, not the sweet match ammo.)

Quick checking shows Ammunitiontogo.com has Armscor SV for $28/500 and Aguila SV for $27/500, both in-stock as of this evening. (Don't buy the Remington "Target" stuff they have, it's horrible poo poo.) Looks like the CCI SV is a buck more a 100-round box than Mini-Mags. <shrug>

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LifeSizePotato posted:

I ran into the same problem with my 90-year-old Colt pre-Woodsman. The cheapest slow 22lr my Walmart carries is Remington subsonic, in a green box. Yes, Remington ammo in general is pretty bad, and I get a lot of duds, but it's cheaper than CCI, even when you factor in 1 dud per magazine. I haven't bought it in several months but I think it was like 500 rounds for $30.

The problem I ran into with the Remington Target was 2-3 duds per 50-round box, and a very wide range of velocity otherwise - some rounds were sounding drat near the same as the Super Colibri I'd been shooting earlier in the day, while others cracked very nicely, up in the Federal bulk range. Randomly, and in all four or six boxes of that poo poo that I had. (I used 'em all up once I figured out how shite they were.)

I wasn't worried about squibs from the Super Colibri, once I'd fired (and checked) a few, but the Remington had me checking after every weak-assed shot. (I was using my BSA, so more chance for squibs than a pistol, I would expect.) If the subsonic will stay that way, I'd be amazed I guess it'll do, but personally I'd go out of my way to avoid it.

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Cyrano4747 posted:

On-call room in a university hospital that my father was interning at.

The pumpkin pie was part of her "I'm here to visit the husband I never see due to his work schedule on thanksgiving and give him some food" cover story.

edit: knowing my father's love of pumpkin pie, he ate the drat thing to. I've always been afraid to ask whether it was pre or post.

edit x2: given how alike we can can be, I'm going to guess post. Pumpkin pie would make a GREAT post-sex snack.

During.

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Cyrano4747 posted:

No, the range master was a dick.

Chances are the range makes extra money by selling spent brass, reloads, or both.

Pretty much. I know the local rifle-club range will allow you to collect your own (or abandoned, but usually that's cleaned up before the shooter leaves); cold range if it's in front of the firing line, duh.

The local indoor handgun range (with rentals, gunsmith, guns'n'ammo'n'accessory sales) states on the form you sign, and in signage both at the counter and in the range, that anything forward of the line is range property; cabled targets, so I don't think they call cold unless something is really hosed. (Someone shot the cable down next to me a while back, and just had to go to a different lane. )

Any range that doesn't allow me to vulch my own brass without prior notice gets steel-cased. *If* I come back.

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Pitch posted:

DADT's on the way out

Thus a celebratory new av.

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Nov 26, 2007

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hangedman posted:

Small question here. I'm thinking about taking my springer mil spec 1911 into a gunsmith in order to get a beavertail grip safety and some better sights fitted. Here's the only catch: I already had a trigger job performed on the gun about four years ago, and if possible, I'd like to keep the trigger pull it has now. Would the gunsmith be able to simply bob the spur hammer, or does fitting a grip safety require also fitting a commander-style hammer?

Beavertail on a 1911 requires either a Commander-type hammer, or bobbing the spur. Ask your gunsmith if he's willing to do a bob-job.

Before you get to that part, though, remember that nearly all beavertail grip safeties require that the rear tangs of the frame be ground on - what actual "drop-in" BTs there are will look fugly, with gaps between the safety and the mainspring housing, and the like.

The grip safety blocks the trigger from coming back unless the safety is depressed, and is thus pivoted out of the way. It still may require fitting for proper operation, but that should all be on the safety itself, not the trigger.

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The Bananana posted:

This seems dumb, and I feel dumber over all for having watched it in it's entirety.

Also, Fred Armisen is the worst SNL abortion since... SNL started sucking.

SNL started sucking once the majority of the original players left.

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Carbohydrates posted:

At a gun show a couple days ago, a very nice lady running a table had a blued Ruger Bearcat sitting there with the cylinder and roll mark engraving all filled in with gold. It looked seriously awesome, especially since it matched the gold in the grip screw and trigger guard. She kinda told me how she did it, in that she rubbed some gold something or other in there and then wiped away the excess, but she didn't tell me exactly what she used. She did mention that it could be removed with mineral spirits. Any ideas?

Crayon, maybe.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

I knew I have kept my Ruger 96/44 for a reason... Now that law just needs to get fixed in this state.

You'll love this, baby - Sharp Shooting over here in Spokane has no less than *seven* SP-101s in .22, like 4" barrels. <whimper>

Oh, general question thread.

Uh...


Has anyone seen the thumbrest Sig P238 mags in the wild, not as a Sig package-deal? I tried out one today, and it's not that I *want* one, god no...

It's that I *need* one, and will happily murder all y'all chucklefucks to get one.

Ygolonac fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 31, 2011

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WitchFetish posted:

About the price : no loving idea. I guess you could compare with gunbroker, but from what I understand a lot of sellers on gunbroker also gouge up their prices a little bit.

As for how it works, this should answer your questions.

From what I'm given to understand, the .45 ACP modded Webleys wear a bit more than the .455 Webley models. I know *I'd* be putting down a down-payment on one should it happen to show up at $650 or so, especially if I could sleaze it down by a hundred or so, but that's me, looking at what it costs to feed my .38 S&W Webley.... y'all might check both the prices of .455 and replacement cylinders/reloading gear first.

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Comfy sponk posted:

Don't feel bad. Most of the ones that charge that much are ones that give you ALOT of room.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...033817&t=h&z=15

There are two shotgun fields, one trap with two trap houses and a 5 stand setup, and one with two skeet setups. A 200/300 yard range, a rimfire 100yard. These have to be closed for safety for using the 600 yard range. A 100 yard General purpose range. A Black powder/silhouette range. A 50 yard pistol range. The action shooting pits. And the icing, a 24hour indoor Airgun/rimfire only range.

The quarry to the left (west) is also a part of the property that the club is going to make into an action shooting complex.

All this for $120/year.

Make the indoor 24-hour one airgun/rimfire/handgun and I'll root the whole joint up and haul it over here to Spokane. Being bored and not able to get to sleep at 2 AM would be much more acceptable if I could (legally ) go out and play.

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I like turtles posted:

Are there any .22 lever guns that load through a gate, not a tube?
That are reliable, that is.

Most discussion I've seen regarding this is that the heeled bullet of the .22 rimfire would dislike the side-pressure of pushing the gate open, and tend to end up bent. (Same kind of thing you see with the usual .22 misfeeds and sometimes found in badly-handled bulk-pack.)

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