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When I worked at Blockbuster we would get bored as hell during slow times and somebody invented a game of shooting rubber bands onto things like signs near the ceilings and the security cameras and whatnot. The store manager saw a rubber band hanging from a camera one day and went on a crusade to find out who was sabotaging the cameras. He thought we were about to be robbed or some kind of nonsense. He spent days looking through the footage and finding exactly nothing because we knew he was kind of a nut so we already kept out of camera view when goofing off. Eventually the game became "who can land the best rubber band that drives the manager the craziest."
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The security camera system at my old Hollywood Video was absurdly bad. You could watch the live feed in the office, but there's absolutely no way the footage was properly archived. We only had ~30 VHS tapes (yes, VHS tapes), so on the first of the month, tape #1 would be rewound and overwritten with the new footage. For reference, this was in 2008-2009, and our boss liked to make fun of how janky the whole setup was, so the tapes had to have been ancient by that point. I can't imagine I haven't posted about this before, but I can't bring up Hollywood Video without my favorite fun fact about that exact store. The parent company, Movie Gallery, had spent the last 6 months of my time there assuring the store that we weren't going to be closed, which is cause for alarm by itself. They were also sending us stacks of flat boxes, and not telling us what they were for. My last day at Hollywood Video was Christmas day of 2009, when I went to work and found the door to be locked. I had to knock on the glass to be let in, only for my friend and coworker to inform me we were closing the store for good, and our last task was to pack those boxes we were sent with all of our product.
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Tristesse posted:When I worked at Blockbuster we would get bored as hell during slow times and somebody invented a game of shooting rubber bands onto things like signs near the ceilings and the security cameras and whatnot. The store manager saw a rubber band hanging from a camera one day and went on a crusade to find out who was sabotaging the cameras. He thought we were about to be robbed or some kind of nonsense. He spent days looking through the footage and finding exactly nothing because we knew he was kind of a nut so we already kept out of camera view when goofing off. Eventually the game became "who can land the best rubber band that drives the manager the craziest." Way back when, I worked at a tiny town bank where the drive through only was open on Saturdays, almost always me and another young guy. There was a small wooden bust of John F. Kennedy on a shelf outside the manager's office, about 30 feet from the teller area. We passed hours and hours shooting rubber bands at it. I'm still a pretty drat good shot with a rubber band today, based entirely on all that practice 
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Cowslips Warren posted:If the cameras in parking lots are so bad, why do places like Walmart even have them? Of course ironically I ask this because one of our work vans had an attempted break-in over the weekend, the idiots tried to melt off a door handle with a lighter or something. Generally we can think of cameras as having a few different kinds of roles depending on their field of view. Very wide shots are generally used to give someone an overview. It's going to answer questions like, did a fight happen? Did someone break into cars? You aren't aiming for a high level of information, but enough to verify X likely did happen. Generally you'd pair that with cameras that may give you more information. So for instance, if I see a white dude get out of a car, and start smashing windows, I'm going to take the information that X happened and pair it with the cameras covering the entrances and exits. Those cameras are set up with a very small field of view so that I can tell you license plate number, make, and model of the guy's car. And if the lighting is right and sometimes a face. Same thing for shoplifting. I don't need a camera seeing shoplifting to give me more detail than the amount I need to see the act of stealing. I can put cameras on entrances and exits set up to give me very high levels of detail. So if I can say a person in an Ed Hardy t-shirt stole X, and here they are entering the store with a nice beautiful shot of their face, that's great. Now all of those scenarios can be done with the same model of camera, just with swapping out lenses from wide to narrower fields of view. And the lenses field of view is going to have a huge impact on the image "quality". If you've ever seen a badly resized JPEG, it's kinda the same idea. If each pixel is covering 1/16 of an inch, you will get detail. If widen the field of view, and now each pixel is is covering an inch, then you're going to see a lot less detail but much more space. Because the number of pixels remain the same. As for why people don't get arrested for breaking into vehicles, that's not about the cameras as much as the cops. Vehicle break ins are super low priority. Law enforcement looks at that as a situation where insurance will make you whole, so why put in effort. Nationally the closure rate for larceny is like 14%. Closure in this case means they handed it of to the DA, or they can't because the person is dead or otherwise unavailable. Cops in the US are not good at solving crime. It's almost as if they way they spend resources on the latest and greatest mall ninja poo poo for SWAT means that you have a backlog of rape kits you can't afford to process. Or spending overtime money on beating up protesters instead of adding headcount to actually work on crimes. No camera in the world can solve LE just not giving a gently caress.
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I should also point out that a lot of systems are installed either because someone up above demanded it and zero thought was put in. Those systems rarely produce anything useful. I am sure this thread can provide hundreds if not thousands of stories of initiatives taken by higher up with no thought. And all of those stories result in mass waste or stupidity.
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Thomamelas posted:I should also point out that a lot of systems are installed either because someone up above demanded it and zero thought was put in. Those systems rarely produce anything useful. I am sure this thread can provide hundreds if not thousands of stories of initiatives taken by higher up with no thought. And all of those stories result in mass waste or stupidity. Literally everything Amazon. The world's biggest e-vendor marketplace whatever you want to call it literally runs on "Corporate/Bezos had an idea and now we're forced to implement it." Speaking of, my vacay ended last night and had to go in. Everything was a shitshow before I left, but recovering from the post-Chistmas blehs. I come back and...everything's still a shitshow. Some people legitimately thought I quit because they hadn't seen me in a week, and they didn't blame me for it. No one's here and we're basically running the facility at 1/2-2/3 attendance/capacity. It's glorious in a "Hah-HA! Nothing matters because everything is hosed!" way.
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Security cameras are there to catch internal theft, they don’t need your license plate on film for that.
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It snowed the other night into yesterday morning, and while I'm in the Northeast US and snow in winter here is like rain in Britain (read: it's gonna happen, just a matter of when and how much), I think it actually affected people going out, as there were very few shoppers in the store all day long. Even more surprising, is that every cashier showed up, only one supervisor called out due to being sick (even though I think it was a case of rectal blindness). It was actually kinda nice to just chill out and take my time for a day, not have to worry about coverage, and just mostly deal with whatever came in as it came in. I know it's gonna be back to the same bullshit today, but I'm going to take the Ws when I can get them.
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Occasional forums poster and sparky teenager Minicurve just decided to quit her dreadful college course* and made the Saturday Amazon at Morrisons job she loves with people she likes, which pays her £10 an hour, and is five minutes down the road, her actual job. Her manager was basically "YES TAKE ALL THE HOURS" because everyone keeps quitting over amazon's terrible new pick and pack phone apps. *the moronic anti-vax teacher said they were going on a "short walk for two hours, back at 12 so no lunch needed" 3 hours in and miles away from school him and his chucklefuck mate are eating lunch and openly mocking the "snowflakes" with no food. They were in the middle of nowhere with no food or water for 5 hours. I wrote a letter of complaint and the only debate now is if she should send them the "hit da bricks" meme or not.
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learnincurve posted:Occasional forums poster and sparky teenager Minicurve just decided to quit her dreadful college course* and made the Saturday Amazon at Morrisons job she loves with people she likes, which pays her £10 an hour, and is five minutes down the road, her actual job. Her manager was basically "YES TAKE ALL THE HOURS" because everyone keeps quitting over amazon's terrible new pick and pack phone apps. Wait, wait, wait...let me get this straight: teacher took the class on a walk for 2 hours, specifically told them "no lunch needed", actually kept them for 5 and then had the absolute loving gall to mock everyone for to being upset that the teacher lied to them and hosed up their schedule for the day by being lost in the literal woods? In the meantime, my work experience last night: Amazon: We'll put up MLK banners and posters everywhere. Me: Lots of quotes here. They at least remember he did more than have a dream... Also me: Do they realize he was assassinated while supporting striking sanitation workers? Are they encouraging us to strike?
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Thomamelas posted:I should also point out that a lot of systems are installed either because someone up above demanded it and zero thought was put in. Those systems rarely produce anything useful. I am sure this thread can provide hundreds if not thousands of stories of initiatives taken by higher up with no thought. And all of those stories result in mass waste or stupidity. The machine shop I used to work at had interior cameras installed the year before I hired on. They were not in hazardous-environment enclosures and as a result stopped working a few months later. When they were replaced in my fourth year there all of the originals’ internals were covered in a ludicrously thick layer of aerosolized cutting fluid mixed with dust. Also after the new ones went up, in appropriate enclosures, we started getting feedback from executive about how most of us choose to sit down while working, lmao. It lead to about 5% of the experienced shopfloor staff finally getting fed up with the bullshit and finding better offers elsewhere, right before the pandemic started.
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LonsomeSon posted:The machine shop I used to work at had interior cameras installed the year before I hired on. They were not in hazardous-environment enclosures and as a result stopped working a few months later. When they were replaced in my fourth year there all of the originals’ internals were covered in a ludicrously thick layer of aerosolized cutting fluid mixed with dust. Yeah, this is also a big fight. Most camera systems don't need a gently caress ton of maintenance but all of them periodically need the lenses cleaned and sometimes refocused at least. Any camera in an environment you describe is gonna need a hell of a lot more. But management universally hates maintenance stuff. Big Taint posted:Security cameras are there to catch internal theft, they don’t need your license plate on film for that. Sometimes! Sometimes it's for external theft. But sometimes it's for the ego of the tin pot gods. One way in which sales people used to torment me is send me people with questions about recording audio. And 90% of people who asked about audio were hell bent on violating the law. Different jurisdictions have different rules but the bare minimum in the US is that one party needs to be aware and consent to the recording. Some areas may have signage requirements, some states are two party consent and so on. But the bare minimum is at least one person participating in the conversation must be aware it's recording. Some small business owners tend to feel that having a lease, or owning the building makes them party to all conversations. The vast majority of lawyers would disagree. And since they feel they are party to all conversations they have the right to record all of them. Now why would a dipshit do this? Because they want to make sure they aren't being poo poo talked about behind their backs. My experience with them was generally yes, they were being poo poo talked about and they had it coming. Most of the time I could point out that if they ever tried to use that video for shoplifting or trying to justify firing someone, they'd be handing over evidence that they committed a felony. That stopped some. But it doesn't stop all of them. A couple owning a winery decided to do that. They got caught. Sadly they only got probation and time served. But they do now have a felony conviction. But if your employer is covertly recording audio and you can prove, please do. Video and Audio have different recording rules, but all of the audio laws come out of wiretapping laws. And violating them is almost always a felony.
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Volmarias posted:He's been sanitized and coopted so that Racism Is Solved Forever and they don't have to mention any of the other things. Yeah, this country looooves doing this. Another fun one it happened to was Helen Keller. Everyone knows the story of how she was taught to communicate as a child and how incredible and what a triumph of the human spirit it is but then she just disappears from textbooks despite being quite prolific for the first half of the 20th century as activist for women's rights, an advocate for the disabled, a radical socialist, a founder of the ACLU etc. Sankis fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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Update on teacher problems: My complaining got me literally 2 hours of phonecalls begging me to get me to convince her to stay on the course which descended into threats (she's 18 in two weeks) and an ultimatum on how she MUST have a decision by next monday, unlike the other 9 members of the class who have dropped out and are still on the books. Meanwhile her boss gave her 3 extra days and she found out that there is infinite warehouse work in our area that will take on school leavers with no experience needed* and pay her hilariously high amounts of money for doing sunday nights. (£25 per hour). I guess living next to the M1 and a major customs clearing place does have some benefits, if not air quality.
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Rainbow Knight posted:why are we playing Christmas music in the store in the middle of January? because God is dead It starts earlier and earlier each year.
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Goddamn, just getting told to "do that" or "do this" without a please or even a thank you is really loving demoralizing and I loving hate it.
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So; for those of you not keeping an eye on Australian news: omicron is currently wreaking havoc on staffing in retail, transport and distribution. Even production, especially farm workers. Most workplaces are missing 20-50% of their staff, and consequently when you go to the grocery store its basically picked clean across half the store. Yesterday our idiot Prime Minister announced a brilliant plan: Let’s remove age and licensing restrictions for forklift operators so that we can put children to work driving them around. What could possibly go wrong? Thankfully, these are state responsibilities; and all the state governments very quickly told him to gently caress off.
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I mean I am not a smart person at all, but it still amuses me how fast people blame Biden for everything. Now he is to blame for some of it, yeah, but the empty shelves and short staffed places are not only his fault. We're not at the end but somewhere, maybe, in the middle of a pandemic where it seems a good third of Americans refuse to wear a mask or get vaxxed just because they are screaming toddlers being denied treats. Which means covid mutates more, and more people get sick, and more people call out, and corporations say no one wants to work, while raking in record profits and slashing hours and pay. gently caress, no one is allowed to enforce any mask policy. Not even Costco, the place where they check your card when you enter, and before you pay, and your receipts before you leave. They trust you, but not enough that you don't steal or let someone else use your card. So of course they trust masked people aren't vaccinated and the ones without masks are.
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The Lord Bude posted:So; for those of you not keeping an eye on Australian news: omicron is currently wreaking havoc on staffing in retail, transport and distribution. Even production, especially farm workers. Most workplaces are missing 20-50% of their staff, and consequently when you go to the grocery store its basically picked clean across half the store. something similar is happening in the US, except instead of forklift operators it's truck drivers. I'm looking forward to getting my head sheared off when a truck jack-knifes across 6 lanes of traffic while a senior in high school is texting their friends/weed dealer or whatever
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Rainbow Knight posted:something similar is happening in the US, except instead of forklift operators it's truck drivers. I'm looking forward to getting my head sheared off when a truck jack-knifes across 6 lanes of traffic while a senior in high school is texting their friends/weed dealer or whatever That’s even more terrifying. From what I’ve read most of the US has much laxer licensing standards already for new drivers.
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The Lord Bude posted:the US has much laxer standards Correct.
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Yeah the truck driver shortage and loosening of standards in the US was ongoing for 10-15 years before the pandemic accelerated it. I'd say at this point a good 30-40% of the full size tractor-trailers you see are being driven by someone who really has barely the faintest idea how to handle it. And it's getting worse.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Yeah the truck driver shortage and loosening of standards in the US was ongoing for 10-15 years before the pandemic accelerated it. I'd say at this point a good 30-40% of the full size tractor-trailers you see are being driven by someone who really has barely the faintest idea how to handle it. And it's getting worse. that's horrifying. Out of curiosity what is involved in getting a driver licence in the US?
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The Lord Bude posted:that's horrifying. Out of curiosity what is involved in getting a driver licence in the US? AFAIk it’s completely dependent on the state. And even within the state certain things can be different (one dmv near me does tests on the regular road one does them on a closed course). And then there’s differences between minors and adults where minors have to do a minimum of 6 hours of driving school and a required 6 months wait between taking the written test and taking the road test. Adults just have to wait 3/6 months after passing the written test with nothing else needed. Edit: not sure what commercial drivers need besides needing to pass a test.
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The Lord Bude posted:that's horrifying. Out of curiosity what is involved in getting a driver licence in the US? A CDL (Commercial Driver's License) to drive full tractor-trailers? https://driving-tests.org/how-to-get-a-cdl-license/ posted:
So basically, pass a written test and pass a road skills test. Same as a car, but with a tractor-trailer in conditions that get nowhere near simulating actual over-the-road conditions. You have to provide your own vehicle for the road test, which in practice means you can only get a CDL by signing on with a trucking company, which often means you have to commit to 1-3 years of being enslaved to said company under pain of having to pay back the (trumped up to the point of pushing you into bankruptcy) costs of the CDL training, if you quit or if they fire you, for instance for wrecking your truck because you don't really know how to handle it. So the tl;dr is you get your license first and do 90% of the learning how to actually drive the truck later, by yourself. This was just published four days ago, just as one example: quote:Starting Tuesday, New York is asking people to weigh in on a proposal to help fix driver shortages for school buses and trucks. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 22, 2022 |
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Yup. I live near/work at an Amazon facility, and live right off of the infamous IH-35. I give trailer trucks a lot of space when I can. Going in a straight line along a highway I know more or less where they'll be so I'm not too worried (though the other day driving on the lee side of one for about 3 miles during high winds was kinda freaky every time a wind gust pushed the giant thing towards me and the driver had to correct) but at intersections and in parking lots it's both courtesy and safety to make as much space as possible. You never know who's behind that wheel.
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Good god. To get even a regular drivers licence here (and my state is one of the more lenient): First you do an online training course and then take an exam (passing grade is 90%). That earns you a learner permit. With a learner permit you can drive with an instructor or fully licenced person in the car with you, and you have to display an L plate on your car so that everyone knows you're a learner. Then you have to do 100 hours of supervised driving - there is an app and a log book to track you and a very rigorous process of verifying your hours so you can't cheat. 10 of those hours have to be at night. Then you do an online Hazard perception test, followed by a practical driving test (done on actual roads, and it's pretty tough, even minor poo poo can fail you). Once you pass that test, you have a provisional 1 licence for 1 year - you can drive on your own, but there are heavy restrictions - you can't have more than 1 non relative person under 21 in the car with you, you can't use a phone at all, not even hands free or bluetooth, you need to maintain 0 blood alcohol. Strict limits on what kind of car you can drive - you can't drive anything above a certain power to weight ratio. and you have very few demerit points so doing basically anything wrong gets you a licence suspension. Some states limit top speed as well. Then you go on a provisional 2 licence for another 2 years - passenger restrictions, and phone restrictions are removed but otherwise same as P1. Then after all that you have a full licence (to drive a regular car). If you want to drive a larger vehicle, there are 5 different tiers of licence - light rigid, medium rigid, heavy rigid, Heavy Combination, Multi Combination. Once you have at least a provisional licence, you can learn to drive the next highest class of vehicle after 1 year at your current level, each time having to pass written and practical tests and medical exams. so you have a car licence for 1 year, get a test, then you can drive light rigid (a minibus for eg). Wait another year, then you can get tested for medium rigid, and so forth. so nobody will be driving big rear end tractor-trailer for years after they first learn to drive.
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The cdl road test and skills test while not that hard is a lot longer and easier to fail then the passenger car test by a significant margin. That said the reason you don’t put 18 year olds in trucks is they are inclined to seek out risk. They have no fear or caution.
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Discendo Vox posted:SCOTUS barred a vaccine mandate (the rationale was absurd) and most of the other things you mention require an act of congress or just plain aren't legal for the feds to do. for a guy who ran on how he will totally be able to get things done in congress this should surely all be a non-issue? It's too bad he couldn't also somehow prevent the CDC becoming an utter joke with its heavily politicized guidance focusing on getting people back to work over health and safety. Sankis fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jan 22, 2022 |
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He ran on not being Donald Trump and has been pretty good at not being Donald Trump imo. I'm pretty much resigned that.covid-19 will go down in history as the pandemic that never ended. Or at least until something even worse comes along. Elephanthead posted:That said the reason you don’t put 18 year olds in trucks is they are inclined to seek out risk. They have no fear or caution. Yeah but if we really cared about this societally the minimum age for a CDL would be at least like 25.
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