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Feb 22, 2007

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sc0tty posted:


Q. Can someone explain the 'Wildcard' entries. Like with the previous question, what effect does this have on the regular season.



After the regular season is over, the division champion (The top team from each of the four divisions per conference) advance to playoffs. In addition, two "wild card" teams from each conference advance as the fifth and sixth teams in the playoffs. These teams are the teams with the two best records in the conference that didn't win their divisions.

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Feb 22, 2007

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adaz posted:


It also leads to lots of dollars when you can establish near permanent things like Colts/Patriots rivalry this decade, despite each team being in different divisions, have played each other for like 9 consecutive years since they basically always win their respective divisions. Matchups like that are cool and cause TV executives to drool as they tend to be extremely highly rated.

This was especially hilarious because the one time recently when the Pats finished second in their division (2008), the Colts ended finishing up 2nd as well. And even if the Colts had finished first, the AFC East and AFC South played each other in 2009 so the Pats and Colts would have played anyway.

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Feb 22, 2007

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One Sick Puppy posted:


I started rooting for the Chargers a long while back and while it sucks to die in the playoffs every year there's a lot of enjoyment and excitement in thinking that next year is gonna be "the year."

It's hilarious how two people can root for the same team and have completely opposing views on something like this.

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Feb 22, 2007

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San Diego isn't really an up and comer.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Dankzilla posted:

Why did everyone start calling AD AP?

AP are his initials.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Larch posted:

I think we really need to all get on the same page with this. We need to pick one and stick with it. Is he All Day, or AD? or is he AP as per his initials. PJ is lame, even though he is clad in purple and displays running qualities that would make the messiah envious.

I vote for AP, but we need a consensus.

He's Vikings McFumblealot

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Feb 22, 2007

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Ozu posted:

Head coach/QB hatred. Same principle that causes the Jets to be a villain. The Jets haven't won poo poo in decades yet they get the same amount of hatred outside of their division that the Pats used to (and probably still do to some extent) receive.

Everyone in the AFC West still hates the Raiders more.

The Raiders are the ultimate villains of the AFC West, AFC, and NFL. No one denies this.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Dominion posted:

Not the Raiders so much as just Al Davis.

And John Madden.

There are people who don't know John Madden was a coach.

gently caress John Madden

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Feb 22, 2007

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C-Euro posted:

While we're on the subject of scheduling, how is home/away determined for NFL games? I notice that the Lions are playing host to the Rams despite doing so last year.

There is a different home/away for each reason that teams play each other. For example, last year if the NFC North played the NFC West, it might have been the Lions turn to host the Rams, because four years ago, the Rams hosted the lions.

However, this year, if they're playing each other because they both finished fourth in their divisions, it has nothing to do with last year, and depends on who hosted who the last time they played each other for that reason

I just confused myself

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Feb 22, 2007

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Wollawolla posted:

I think the NFL's scheduling system is pretty elegant right now with a 16 game system that improves parity. Have there been any ideas put forward yet as to how a 18 game schedule would work. I want to believe that there will be method to it, but my gut tells me the league is just going to pick out some prime time worthy match ups for NFLN and the other stations.

The easiest thing would be to eliminate the two same place games (The two unique games every team plays every year due to their finishing spots in their divisions the previous year), and simply play another whole division.

For example:

Right now, the Chargers play:

AFC West x6
AFC South x4
NFC West x4
New England
Cincinnati

Under an 18 game schedule, they could hypothetically play:

AFC West x6
AFC South x4
AFC North x4
NFC West x4

Of course, the major drawback to this is that it completely eliminates 1st place schedules, 2nd place schedules, and whatnot. Every team in a division would play the exact same schedule every season.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Pop Dog posted:

I think they did this once

It was Del Rio and I think Mike Nolan when he was the coach of the niners. And I think the NFL only let them do it for home games.

I want to see Belichick in a suit

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Feb 22, 2007

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JGdmn posted:


This was a big deal in northern California at the time. I'm unsure why.

I think it was because his dad was a coach in San Francisco and was loved by the fans and always wore a suit, so Nolan was trying to honor him or something and the fans loved it until they realized that Mike Nolan is terrible

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Feb 22, 2007

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I keep my eyes on the quarterback and the receivers. I guess you always tend to watch what your team is good at. A few years ago, my eyes were glued to Tomlinson every play.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Evoq posted:

Ohhhhhh okay, that makes sense, thanks guys.

Your way works in college football so there's that at least :shobon:

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Feb 22, 2007

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Doppelganger posted:

What does a general manager do?

Depends on the team, really.

In San Diego, AJ Smith, the GM, has complete and autonomous control over football operations. He makes all the personnel decisions (Who to offer contracts to, who to release, any trades, etc)

He's also in full control of any and all scouting and drafting. He's in charge of basically everything that relates to the Chargers as a football team, while president Dean Spanos handles everything else.

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Feb 22, 2007

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I wonder how the 2001 Miami Hurricanes would have fared against a bad NFL team. That team was stuffed to the brim with NFL talent

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Feb 22, 2007

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Blackula69 posted:

2001 has, I think, 25 players out an an 83-man roster who were drafted. And Ken Dorsey.

Imagine if their quarterback didn't suck completely? 4 titles, at least

Frank Gore was their 3rd RB and Kick Returner.

FRANK GORE

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Feb 22, 2007

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-Dethstryk- posted:

This might be a really dumb question, but it's bugging me.

I'm sitting here watching this NFL Films documentary on the 1967 Cowboys/Packers Ice Bowl. It feels like the players are moving in slow motion, and I notice this same thing when I see any old film of the NFL.

Is this just an example of how much the players in the game have changed over the decades, or is there something with how these old games were filmed?

Strength, conditioning, and speed have increased exponentially since the 1960s. Players are in much better shape, have much more regimented diets and workout programs, and are doing something NFL related pretty much year round.

Players have also gotten bigger. Being a 250 pound offensive lineman in the 1960s wasn't uncommon, but today you'll be hard pressed to find an offensive lineman who isn't over 300.

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Feb 22, 2007

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pasaluki posted:

It is the point of the wildcards in general,but there have been plenty of times where all of the division winners had better records than the wildcards. This year was sort of special in how good the wildcards were and how bad some of the 3 and 4 seeds were. Because of this there was sort of an elevation of the wildcard teams and a backlash against the division winners since the division winners got to host the game despite having a weaker record.

With Seattle being 7-9 and still making the playoffs there was more controversy about this than there usually is. The last time that it was like this was when San Diego made the playoffs by winning their division and New England didn't make the playoffs with a much better record.

I love that the last four teams that've made the playoffs with an 8-8 record or worse have actually won their first playoff game

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Feb 22, 2007

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Evoq posted:

Has the NFL made any special provisions or whatever to keep the Jets from playing the Giants? The Raiders and Niners are, technically, walking distance away from one another and they still play one another, so would they have set up any special rules to just reroll the schedule for either the Jets or Giants should they get each others numbers?

Re-roll what? There's no chance in the NFL schedule, 14 of 16 games are already known for the next year once the season begins. I could tell you 14 of the Chargers 16 games for the 2020 season right now, provided everything stays the same with the schedule system and there are only 16 games

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Feb 22, 2007

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Doppelganger posted:

Can anyone other than the head coach or QB call a timeout?

Any player + Head coach can call a timeout

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Feb 22, 2007

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Doppelganger posted:

I'm interested in learning more about runningbacks. I hear different labels like "powerback" and "every down back". Are there more than just these two? What qualities are most important to the different roles? Who would be good examples of these categories?

Every down backs are the guys that will get between 20-25 carries a game, and are usually a main focal point of the offense. Recently the single load running back has been kind of fading in favor of a running back by committee approach in the NFL, but guys like Adrian Peterson in Minnesota, LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego, or Shaun Alexander in Seattle were good examples of this.

Goal line backs are usually much bigger than every down backs, and have a very specific purpose. Pick up short yardage, whether that means picking up a 3rd and short, or plowing into the endzone. Mike Alstott and Jerome Bettis were this.

Then there are specialty backs whom you bring out in certain situations. Guys like Darren Sproles, who are too small to be used as a primary back but is a very good receiver out of the backfield, for example, is brought out when the Chargers are in a third and long situation. I suppose guys like Brian Westbrook at this stage in his career would fit this description.

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Feb 22, 2007

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BIGFOOT PEE BED posted:



3. I know one 3-4 outside backer is usually a pass rush specialist. What does the other do?

Sorry if these are dumb questions...

For a 3-4, it really depends on what variant of a 3-4 your team is running, if it's an aggressive blitzing 3-4 or not.

The Chargers run a very blitz heavy aggressive 3-4 defense. Especially when Shawne Merriman was on the team, the two outside linebackers almost never fell into coverage, and would rush the passer 9 downs out of 10. The two inside backers were responsible for dropping into coverage.

If your team runs a 3-4 that doesn't blitz as much, it's more common to have one of the OLBs rush the passer while another drops into coverage.

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I don't know if this is actually a Real Thing or not, but I have heard over the last few years, that Peyton Manning really really struggles against 3-4 defenses. I've heard that (especially during Pats/Colts and Chargers/Colts games), but I've never really understood why. Peyton is as good at surveying a defense and identifying where the pressure is coming from better than anyone I've ever seen. Why is it that he struggles against 3-4 base defenses?

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Feb 22, 2007

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This is a slightly odd question and won't be an issue for a very long time, but I don't remember 2002 or 1999 at all, and it's been eating at me.

How do expansion drafts work?

I mean, I know that when a team is created from scratch, it has to stock itself with players. But how does that happen without depleting the draft that year of all of its talent?

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Feb 22, 2007

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Coughing-up Tweed posted:

Does TFF have an IRC channel?

#sports on irc.synirc.net

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Feb 22, 2007

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Strange Matter posted:

Who is Mike Ingram and why should I care about him?

I ask because I drafted him on my fantasy team as a W/R/T largely as a dick move, since one of the other players was chatting about having trouble deciding between him and another player, and I felt like solving that quanderie for him

Mark Ingram is the former Heisman Trophy winning running back for the University of Alabama, and was the first round pick of the New Orleans Saints last April. It's always a gamble to take a rookie, but most people seem to like what Ingram brings to the table.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Blitz7x posted:

Can anyone explain the difference between Offsides, Neutral Zone Infraction, and Encroachment?

I believe it's this:

Offsides: Defense lines up legally, jumps across without making contact with any offensive player before the snap.

Neutral Zone Infraction: Defense lines up illegally, across the line of scrimmage.

Encroachment: Defense jumps offsides, contacting the offensive player or causing a false start.

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Feb 22, 2007

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ChocolatePancake posted:

If they are across the line of scrimmage (like, they are on the wrong side of the ball), they are lined up illegally. That's what he meant I think.

Yeah, this.

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Feb 22, 2007

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keevo posted:

Why do people hate Jay Cutler? Was it only because of the whole him wanting out of the Broncos thing?

He's a whiny child and kind of doofy.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Strange Matter posted:

I've been watching College Football lately, and something has been on my mind. Why do college games have such huge scores? I'm regularly seeing games with 50+ points put up, often against teams with far fewer. Is it that it's harder to build a reliable defense with a 4 year turnaround on players, or is there something else?

Also style points matter in college football.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Feb 22, 2007

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Detective Thompson posted:

What makes an official decide to keep the clock running sometimes when a ball carrier goes or is pushed out of bounds?

I believe if it's not under two minutes, it always starts running again.

Or if forward progress was stopped before the ball carrier goes out of bounds, the clock keeps running.

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Feb 22, 2007

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I remember a reporter asking Rivers about his throwing motion last year specifically because of Tebow, and he said in no uncertain terms that it doesn't matter how much you try to "fix" a throwing motion, because once a quarterback is under pressure or has to make a throw, he's going to go back to what feels the most comfortable anyway.

Also anyone that brings up Rivers when talking about Tebow's throwing motion is ridiculous. Rivers has one of the quickest releases in the NFL, while Tebow has by far the slowest.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Meat Recital posted:

I was ready a story on steroids in sports, and the 1994 San Diego Chargers team was mentioned as particularly doped up, with a lot of members dying young. Could anyone give me more backstory on this?

9 or 10 players from that 1994 team are now dead, but I don't think being doped up had to do with many of them. A lot of them were plain freak accidents that has led a lot of players to think that that team was simply cursed, like a player dying in a plane crash, another one dying in a car crash, another one being hit by lightning multiple times. I know that Natrone Means won't even talk about it when asked.

Here is an article about that team specifically

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/25/AR2008122500790.html

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Feb 22, 2007

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OperaMouse posted:

How does free agency work?

Let's take Matt Flynn. If Cleveland would pay X million more, but Flynn wants to go to Seattle because he likes the weather/team/coach/whatever more. Can he choose?

Does it differ from "potential elite QB" to a fullback, who takes any contract he can get?

There are restricted free agents and unrestricted free agents.

Restricted free agents are free to negotiate with any team, but the team that they're currently on can match any offer.

Unrestricted free agents are free to sign with any team they want.

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Feb 22, 2007

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E_Motion posted:

Since when is CenturyLink/Qwest a dome stadium? Also, I always heard that the two hardest stadiums for opposing teams to visit were Qwest and Arrowhead which are both open air

Qwest was specifically designed to be louder than a dome. It's insane.

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Feb 22, 2007

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Sufficient posted:

Hi, I've lurked for about two years, just started to post. I grew up in Connecticut, grew up on sports and always loved football... why does Andichu hate the Big East so much? Every other post it seems like he dedicates all of his energy to hating the Big East. Where did this all start and do other former Big East goons feel the same way as him?

Because the Big East is bad at football. Look at his post history in the college basketball threads to see some serious Big East Loving from him.

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Feb 22, 2007

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McKracken posted:

Unless you are SA2k or a fan of a division rival there is nothing really hate-able about the Chargers.

It's hard to hate the irrelevant.

:smith:

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Feb 22, 2007

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spe posted:

Its cos their logo is loving todge, best one probably the steelers, they're a 1990s telecom company.

Titans are a shady junkyard from the 80s who do crimes.

Of all the logos to hate, a lightning bolt?

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