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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





The fact that account name even matters and shouldn't be updated is loving dumb. Use GUIDs for important identification stuff and move on. gently caress legacy stuff that can't cope.

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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Tony Montana posted:

I just disabled 2.5k active users via VBScript. That's enterprise as gently caress and feels awesome :)

VBScript is enterprise as gently caress?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I still don't understand why you need login scripts using VBS. The whole world has moved passed login scripts. And the reporting you are doing can easily be done with Powershell, but in my opinion the correct way would be using SSRS.

Honestly, you seem to continuously bring up the fact that you work for HP. I'm not sure that is worth bragging about. In my mind working for HP is the same as working IT for IBM, Cisco, or the government. It's a mark against, not a mark in your favor.

And I'm fairly sure everyone here knows how Tier 1 / 2 / 3 work.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Yes, working for HP is a mark against you. Sorry.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





It is a Cisco issue. I've been dealing with it as well. Don't remember the details but on Windows 7 it manifests as an IP conflict with an internal IP and then gets a real IP.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Phone posting but this is what I've run into -
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ios-nx-os-software/8021x/116529-problemsolution-product-00.html

 

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1028373

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.co...winserverhyperv

Also I didn't mean to ignore the comments from a few pages ago. Been swamped with a project.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





#notenterpriseproblems

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Roargasm posted:

The licensing really isn't that bad except for the "activations" you get that make a lot of people think they hit some weird licensing jackpot. They're much easier to find than your actual license specs, so easy that it's almost like audit-inducing low hanging fruit.

Then if you have an 2012R2 Datacenter license, my understanding is that you have unlimited rights to virtualize any Windows OS you want without a license as long as it's hosted on the R2 Datacenter licensed machine

Yes, that's correct. It's licensed per proc and sold in a pair, so one Datacenter license will allow you to spin up unlimited Windows servers on your normal 2 processor box.

One thing I see most companies trip over is the fact that you have to license for "temporary moves" of less than 90 days. If a piece of hardware dies and you're moving the license over for a period of longer than 90 days you're fine. Less than 90 and it doesn't count as a license move. This comes into play with vmotion / HA.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





As long as it's not PST files or Access databases or something like that, I don't see why it wouldn't work. Again, it really depends on your rate of change and I suppose if you are sharing Internet, the bandwidth usage on that. Also not knowing how many users you have on those 25 Mb/s pipes, it is hard to make a recommendation. For me, I would spring for a DFS copy in each location, or at least in each location that the data is accessed. Storage is so cheap these days, 10 TB is nothing. Maybe each branch does not need the same data, only the branch and the HQ. I would also look at why you have to have internet traffic coming back to the main office. If it's for web filtering I would find another solution. If it is because those are dedicated point-to-point connections I would question the reason for not having them be internet connections and doing a VPN back.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Methanar posted:

What?

How do you do site-site VPNs without an ISP connection.

Sounds like he has point to point WAN connections, not VPNs.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Orcs and Ostriches posted:

Most K-12 schools / hospitals / libraries, etc. in Alberta are connected together with a fibre network run by the government. Each site has a VPN connection back to our office connected to the same network. Outside of a few government hosted services, no outside network access is provided through it. It's also all funded by the government at the level of service we have, and free is good when working in education and our perpetually slashing budgets.


I don't think a full replica at each site will fly. There's fairly little data that needs to be shared between sites, aside from the few users that bounce site to site. Site based replication seems to be the best compromise so far. And yeah, 10TB worth of hard drives are cheap, but a quarter million to put NetApps at each school to hold those drives, and the idea's not going to work.

Sharing replication data and Internet traffic (as well as other internal traffic like network services and internally hosted services) shouldn't be a problem at most sites. Only a couple places are running into bandwidth problems now, so the bit of replication traffic added to their pipes shouldn't have a major effect, especially if they're only replicating or caching files their site needs.

Then like I said, for data only needed at a branch do just that branch and the HQ.

Maneki Neko posted:

Are people still generally using folder redirection & roaming profiles? We're starting to bump across more and more apps that having issues with redirected app data folders (despite the fact that we've been doing it forever and as far as I was aware it was a pretty common thing).

If you moved away, how was the transition? It's been nice not having to worry at all about anything that lives on anyones desktop/laptop.

I never redirect appdata either, too many problems with apps and that folder is normally more talkative than most, so a roam lightens that a bit.

It really depends on your situation, but assuming you were redirecting appdata and are moving to roaming, you shouldn't have too many problems. Are you using non-persistent desktops? If so, then it will download each time and I would do a quick inventory to make sure no one has huge appdata folders. If not then it's just the first time they log into a machine and shouldn't be too bad unless users move around frequently.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





What do you have against Roaming Profiles in TYOOL2015?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Tony Montana posted:

Give me an example of your implementation of roaming profiles. I've never seen it work right, and I've seen a lot of troubleshooting lost on it.

The wiki page has a list of common dramas, and there are plenty more than what is listed there.

VDI is the more modern approach, but even then.. Windows is a client rich architecture. It was a conscious decision in the creation of the OS, there was a point where they thought shall we just say gently caress it and make IE the OS and write all the apps in Java and then it runs on anything, anywhere. Things like 365 are coming full circle now, with the power of HTML5 and modern computers being able to churn complex webcode.. but Windows will offer a richness (which means resources, libraries, things developers can use to make fast and slick applications) that webapps can't. So when you're virtualising the desktop, can't we just do whatever you're going to do in a webapp with cloud storage anyway?

As for 'worrying about what is on people's desktops'.. that's why you redirect and have professional staff.. which is usually what enterprise means. We just dont give a poo poo about what's on someone's desktop.. it's part of their job to keep their work in a safe place. If they lose data because they're dumb, we just articulate all the nice infrastructure and policies and documentation in place for not dumb people and then it's just not our problem anymore. Don't get caught worrying about what every user might do with their work - your job is just to provide them the means to work properly and if they set it all on fire that's not your fault.

I'm going to put about as much effort in as a Wikipedia link (seriously a Wikipedia link for pros/cons of an IT technology?). Roaming Profiles work just fine. It's not the year 2000 anymore. Once the world figured out that you need to use Folder Redirection with your Roaming Profiles things got a lot better. Add v2 profiles and it works just fine and is better than the alternative. If you have needs for something more than that you have options like AppSense Environment Manager, Citrix Profile Management, or Microsoft User Experience Virtualization.

The second paragraph about the power of Web2.0 confuses me and I'll just pass on that.

Your third paragraph is just lazy IT. "we just don't give a poo poo about what's on someone's desktop... it's part of their [user's] job to keep their work in a safe place." Yeah, welcome to the year 2000, please store all files in your Home Drive. :allears:

Zero VGS posted:

As everyone said, AppData can gently caress up a lot of things, it was redirected at one of my previous places and it would do all sorts of crazy poo poo, such as if someone was logged into two computers at once, Firefox would refuse to open on the second computer because it was "already in use", among other anomalies.

Pro-tip, if you have Office 365, each licensed used gets 1tb of OneDrive storage. Assuming none of your individuals hard drives are larger than 1tb, what you can do is install OneDrive for Biz, reboot, go into the user profile folder, highlight "Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Videos" etc, except AppData, then drag them all into the OneDrive for Business folder. Now every file the user has is automatically backed up the moment is it created or rewritten, and they can look up the complete version history on the O365 portal. I have 500+ users set up this way and it's great.

Word/Excel/Powerpoint save their files to OneDrive for Biz by default, but this covers absolutely everything doc on their PC, with the sole exceptions of Outlook Signatures and Sticky Notes which Microsoft stupidly buries in App Data.

Plus, if you ever have to reimage their PC or give them a new one, just reinstall OneDrive for Biz, repeat the folder drags, and poof the Desktop is back. It's like a ghetto redirection. Sharepoint which OneDrive for Biz runs on can sometimes have weird sync issues but I'll take it to being responsible for a file server any day.

This is just about the worst loving idea I've ever heard. Ignoring everything terrible about it, you seriously went to 500+ users and dragged all the "Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Videos, etc" into OneDrive? Are you kidding me? And what happens when that breaks for all 500+ users at once because of some dumb Windows or OneDrive patch?

Some of you people are the IT guys I want to murder.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Tony Montana posted:

Hang on.. Roaming Profiles.. I bet you're the guy..

Yeah, you're the guy that said working for a major vendor is a mark against you. It's like trying to explain colour to a blind man, I'm sorry but you just have no frame of reference and I'm wasting my time.

Yeah, I am definitely that guy and you further prove my point with such gems as a Wikipedia link of "drawbacks" in a technical discussion and "who cares about user files, let God sort it out." Don't exert yourself with all that effort.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Honestly I'm just still laughing at your cloud apps and Roaming Profiles = "users should out things in the right places!" responses. Both show you have no idea what you're talking about. And you totally missed the low hanging fruit about Microsoft UEV, no one uses that poo poo. It's garbage.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





What are you using to host VMs? Pretty much any of them will have built-in templating. And honestly, what's the name of your company? So I can stay far, far away.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





No, but that sounds like something that should have been reimaged as soon as you said MSE was not working. Also unless something changed recently MSE is not licensed for business use over (25?) PCs.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Everyone keeps telling you that you are doing sketchy as hell things with licensing. Are you really surprised that you ran into problems?

Why are you taking an image of an OEM machine? What exactly did "purchasing cloning rights" entail?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Zero VGS posted:

I ran all of this by actual 1st party Microsoft licensing specialists and they said go for it. But anyway, we only use one model of laptop across the whole organization (Elitebook 840), so we set up the configuration and Clonezilla it to further laptops, then change the PC name and set the PC to it's own motherboard product key. The "cloning rights" was them telling me that as long as I bought a single copy of Windows 10 Pro through volume licensing, I would reimaging rights to make a master image using any 3rd party tool I wanted, and I could do this to any laptop as long as it initially had a valid Windows 7/8 OEM key, which they all do; HP and my vendor ships every laptop of this model with a key.

I guess I could technically use the volume license key from Microsoft to get these to activate, but they've never given me a solid answer on whether or not I can use those as a stand-in for the free Windows 10 Upgrade program. The licensing specialist said he wasn't sure but doing in-place upgrades was fine (i.e. I used to install a Win8 upgrade and ran the upgrade wizard to make it activated Win 10, after Build 1511 I just use the more direct feature when you can bunch in the BIOS key directly in Win 10).

I'm just surprised that I did this so far for like 100+ laptops with no issue at all and suddenly one gets it's own key hosed. Maybe I can ask HP to just reset the activation counter for the BIOS key on it. Because of the way it was reimaged, it might have gotten like 3 activations in, but if HP/Microsoft actually looks, they'll clearly see only one is still going.

Sounds like you should be asking that Microsoft licensing specialist then. :v:

I've heard of this loophole before and I'm pretty sure you should be using your volume license key. As long as your OS version matches what's on the OEM sticker you should be "good."

Just keep in mind this loophole contradicts the concept that a volume license only exists as an upgrade to an OEM copy of Windows.

GreenNight posted:

You have to understand Zero VGS has one hosed up network and everything is build on string and spit.

Saying that, we're migrating to the same Elitebook laptops.

Sorry, I don't really buy this excuse. If you can't afford the software, don't use it. Plus he's mentioned that his company is a direct competitor with VMware. I don't really buy the excuse that the money isn't there. He comes off as every other cheap IT guy I've run into in my career. "If I save them money, they'll give the money to me instead!"

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I uae DFS-N for any share I make, even when not using DFS-R. :ssh:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Yeah, I mean as long as you're not putting user profiles or folder replication without doing manual fail over or have super large files I don't really see the problem.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Network Detective is great. I don't think a non-domain admin account, or at the very least an account granted local admin on everything, can get all that Network Detective queries. Have you reached out to their support? They are usually pretty good.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





BaseballPCHiker posted:

Special snowflake user has beaten me in inter-office politics and now gets their way in regards to their PC locking after 15 minutes of inactivity. I must suffer through this until our next audit when inevitably they will flag this and demand I change it back. (Yes I have the special demand in writing stating my objections).

There is a GPO at the domain level that sets the lock screen at 15 minutes currently. Is their a way to exclude this one specific computer? If I set something at the OU level that should take effect first if I remember correctly, but will it then be overrided by the domain level GPO? Should I change the domain level GPO and do some sort of security or WMI filtering?

OU-level policies are applied last and will overwrite policies applied at higher levels.

Just put the PC in a security group, apply the policy to disable the setting to that group, then apply the GPO to same OU as the other computers, then set the "disabled" policy to the lowest number in the Link Order of the OU in GP.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785665(v=ws.10).aspx

"At the level of each organizational unit in the Active Directory hierarchy, one, many, or no GPOs can be linked. If several GPOs are linked to an organizational unit, their processing is in the order that is specified by the administrator, on the Linked Group Policy Objects tab for the organizational unit in GPMC. The GPO with the lowest link order is processed last, and therefore has the highest precedence.

This order means that the local GPO is processed first, and GPOs that are linked to the organizational unit of which the computer or user is a direct member are processed last, which overwrites settings in the earlier GPOs if there are conflicts. (If there are no conflicts, then the earlier and later settings are merely aggregated.)"

[Edit: gently caress me, how did I think that was the last post in the thread? Oh well, leaving it because there is a link.]

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Yeah, that went from unreasonable to ridiculous.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Abel Wingnut posted:

any sql server dbas in this thread? not sure where to post a pretty advanced question. well, advanced for me, the db dev.

Check this thread - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2672629

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





But I am Zero VGS and it is my job to pinch every penny while putting my company in a poor position. Help me Enterprise thread!

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Things cost money. Running a business costs money. One of my biggest pet peeves are those IT guys who feel obligated to save as much money for the company as possible, as if they are going to give you a big fat bonus because of it. Then someone who is actually competent at their job has to come in and say "the previous IT guy was a loving moron and did poo poo with shoestring and bubblegum. You now owe a zillion dollars in technical debt. Sorry."

Spend the money where you have to. Do McGuyver poo poo only when you absolutely have to.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





GreenNight posted:

Yeah but also you gotta put your foot down when employees want the loving world. No we're not buying you an i7 with 32 gigs of RAM and a Quadro card for your lovely accounting software.

Obviously you have to put your foot down somewhere. But someone who is in a role that involves project management wanting MS Project...? Not exactly unheard of, or outrageous.

skipdogg posted:

Why not? If the budget owner signs off I could give a poo poo. In my company business unit managers are responsible for their BU's budget, including hardware purchases. If they sign off on some 4,000 dollar workstation for their employee, that's on their budget.

I think you just answered your own rhetorical question. Not all companies bill back IT spending to their respective departments.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





devmd01 posted:

You can rename the account in AD as long as the user is logged out, but you can't (easily) rename the user profile folder.

If you're determined to do so, take a look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList. There may be other locations where you'd need to edit the folder path for the user profile.

I'd just rename the user and call it a day.

Alternatively, take the opportunity to document the necessary settings so this isn't an issue in the future, put it into a security group scoped GPO, and you can continue to use clean accounts for every new employee.

There's a tool that can do it fairly well. gently caress if I can remember the name of it, someone will probably chime in.

Personally, I would put all this stuff in a GPO in AD. My team knows not to do trusted sites, compatibility, java security, etc. on a local machine. If it is worth changing for one person, it is worth changing for everyone just to save yourself and your users the hassle.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Jeoh posted:

ProfWiz

That's it, thank you sir.

On Windows 10, it's just that not all vendors are there yet.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I'm pretty sure FileZilla Server can do SFTP.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Maneki Neko posted:

Sadly filezilla server can NOT do SFTP, although the client supports it just fine.

My bad! I misremembered using FileZilla Server for FTPS.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Walked posted:

Agreed. Bit of a wet fart on this one relative to the hype; it requires attention but I'm not going to lost my lunch or need liquor to get me through the week because of this specifically

Wait until you apply the patch and find all the nice Microsoft bugs that come with rushed patches!

I'm still wrapping my head around it but it sounds like unless you have SMB/Samba exposed to a compromised network, you should be relatively okay?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





CLAM DOWN posted:

Welp, I got drunk before noon for nothing!

Do we really need a legit reason?

I'm not familiar with SAMR or LSAD, but at least it doesn't seem like SAML is affected?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





CLAM DOWN posted:

SAML is claims-based authentication for things like AD FS right? I don't think it's affected.

Yeah, AD FS. It doesn't seem like it, but that's really the only way I could see this being earth-shattering. People don't generally expose SMB/Samba to the Internet, so I'm not sure why there was so much hype.

I liked one of the Twitter responses on #BadLock. "This is just normal patch Tuesday stuff."

[Edit: I guess if you have RDP opened to the Internet you should update ASAP? And probably kill yourself.]

Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 12, 2016

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





:munch:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





The best practice these days is subdomain.domain.com, not domain.local or an equivalent. So internal.wiggleyssprockets.com as opposed to wiggleyssprockets.local. It makes hybrid cloud and SSO easier in the long run.

On naming... It's a bit like server names. If you put any truly accurate description in the name it can always be a liability, but if you don't, what's the point of a name? Obviously if you're dealing with cattle and not pets this argument goes away, but for the rest of us it's a bit of a balance. I say include the company name in some fashion. If you are getting bought out changing that type of stuff (or setting up a domain trust) is going to happen either way.

I wouldn't put a physical address in a server name... But company name in your AD domain seems appropriate.

Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Apr 24, 2016

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





:munch:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005






Wow, that's pretty bad.

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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Or run GP modeling / GP results in Group Policy Management. Or gpresult /h on the server you are troubleshooting.

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