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April posted:I owned a 1st generation kindle for about a year, and when it died (3 weeks after the 1-year warranty expired), I decided to go for the nook. The newest generation of Kindle is also way better than the original. I have a co-worker that has the original and now he really wants the newest one after seeing mine.
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The kindle owns so hard. It'll be about a year next month and I've enjoyed probably it every day.
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Nov 16, 2010 22:13
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I think like some people have already stated, your choice between the Big Two (Kindle, Nook), pretty much boils down to minor differences in aesthetics and whether you've hitched your bandwagon to Barnes and Noble or Amazon. I bought my Nook a few months after they debuted. I was already leaning that way mostly because I am constantly in and out of B&N stores. I also liked the touch screen and potential for customization (though that hasn't really surfaced as much as I'd hoped). I love it and will probably hold onto it until a viable color replacement exists. The Nook Color is not e-ink and so I'm not terribly interested. Technology like Mirasol will be the true successor to black and white e-ink readers: http://www.mirasoldisplays.com/ With all that being said for the Nook, I don't think I'd be missing out on anything major by having gone with a Kindle instead. You can rest assured that both the Nook and Kindle, being supported by well-funded mega companies, will compete non-stop to offer the same functionality as the other.
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Nov 16, 2010 22:53
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Having owned all 3 brands of ereaders mentioned in the title I can safely say there are only a few differences. Sony - great build, poo poo software, decent online store, no wifi/3g, awesome collections ability in both calibre and it's own in house software. 2gb storage Nook - heavy build, shortest battery life of the 3, has 3g/wifi, no collections at all. replaceable battery where no one else has one. 2gb storage. Kindle 3 - "flimsy" build (just feels really really really fragile), longest battery life of the 3, wifi/3g, minor collection (can set books together but can't change order), slightly larger ebook store than bn, but usaully for self published authors. 4gb storage but no memory card slots. Kindle has the best looking screen of the 3, but that's kind of obvious since it's the latest release for the ereader. Haven't seen the new sony local to check it out. Nook is still first gen nook, no real updates except firmware. One thing I haven't seen mentioned, and that's Sony's customer service for the ereaders. It's damned good. When my mom bought a refurb 600 from them, and had to return it for a battery issue they overnighted her a replacement after calling her to ask if it was cool if she got a different color. They even tossed in a free case, and the reader they sent was brand spanking new. When I had to send my 500 in for a firmware update they sent me a box overnight ups to ship it to them at no cost, it went to them overnight, they got it, fixed it, and had it back to me in 2 days time. They are awesome. BN.com has great CS and awesome local stores, Amazon is kind of legendary for their customer service, but I was really surprised that Sony was as cool as they were. If you are looking for an ereader any of the "big 3" will be great. It's just a case of what you want to do besides read, or if you want replaceable parts, or if you want the ability to put your collections in orders that you want. There isn't a "bad" pick for any of them. Just different options.
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Nov 16, 2010 23:46
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Kindle 3 - "flimsy" build (just feels really really really fragile) What makes you say that? Mine feels quite sturdy. I've handled a Nook as well, and it just felt really heavy and bulky and the page turn buttons seemed like an obvious design flaw, but it didn't feel any more robust than the Kindle 3. The only part of either I feel like anyone should worry about anyway is the screen itself, and none of them protect that any more than the others.
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Nov 17, 2010 06:38
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Well, the reason I said it felt fragile was that it felt fragile. It's very thin, very much made of plastic, and feels like if you drop it, it's gonna snap in twain. In comparison, I love my 505 since it's made out of milled aluminum. I think I could club a coyote to death with it and still load up a book to read, plus it came with an awesome leather cover. The nook, however, just feels heavy. Not entirely "tough", but it doesn't feel like I am going to snap it if I sneeze while I hold it. If I could get a sony with the nooks replaceable battery and the kindle3's screen and 3g/wifi, I would be a happy man.
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Nov 17, 2010 14:10
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Well, the reason I said it felt fragile was that it felt fragile. I agree that the Kindle 3 feels flimsy. Until I got my cover, I was really worried about breaking it all the time. But with the leather cover on it, it's pretty much perfect. Also I just discovered that Anki Online works on the Kindle's browser. I think it's surpassed my computer as my most-used electronic device at this point.
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Nov 17, 2010 14:22
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Would I be able to use a Kindle to gently caress around on the forums? Because if so, I think I'm sold. Also, would I be able to use the 3G for the Kindle's browser, or does all web browsing need to be done via wifi?
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Nov 17, 2010 16:39
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Dramatika posted:Would I be able to use a Kindle to gently caress around on the forums? Because if so, I think I'm sold. You could, yes, though the browser isn't powerful by any means. But I have used it to randomly check my emails or browse the forums before. You're better off avoiding picture heavy threads and you have to log in each time, but it's definitely possible to read text threads pretty easily. I've never tried browsing in an area that didn't have wifi, so I have no idea about your second question.
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Nov 17, 2010 17:09
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Fire In The Disco posted:You could, yes, though the browser isn't powerful by any means. But I have used it to randomly check my emails or browse the forums before. You're better off avoiding picture heavy threads and you have to log in each time, but it's definitely possible to read text threads pretty easily. I generally browse with pictures and avatars off anyways.
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Nov 17, 2010 17:17
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Sony - great build, poo poo software, decent online store, no wifi/3g, awesome collections ability in both calibre and it's own in house software. 2gb storage Daily Edition has 3G (No internet browsing though, just connects to their store). I like my Sony e-reader, the only real problem I have with it is the software, but that can be easily fixed. Internet on a reader is a nice novelty, but if thats your deal breaker, I think you are just better off getting a Ipad/Netbook =/
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Nov 17, 2010 18:18
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Dramatika posted:Also, would I be able to use the 3G for the Kindle's browser, or does all web browsing need to be done via wifi? Yes, the 3g can be used for browsing the web. If a signal drops or cannot be reached, the kindle browser will ask you if you want to use wifi and then will list available wifi networks and whether they are encrypted, etc. As others have said, browsing the forums is much better with turning off pictures. Its a little wonky at times, but without the need to pay a monthly fee for a data plan, I'm not complaining. (If you get the 3g version.) Also the battery life is much better if you turn the wireless off when you are not using it.
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Nov 17, 2010 18:37
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I got a chance to play around with the Nook Color. Now granted - I have not ever used a touch screen device (so no smart phones, no ipad, etc) before so I have no frame of reference but it was awesome. Overall it's just a much faster, smoother experience than reading with e-ink as can be expected but obviously it's got the pitfalls of not being e-ink. The Pandora functionality was great but I assume any similar device could do it so I'm not going to give it too many points there. The web browsing was nice although you're not currently able to update your facebook status for some reason (although you can comment on people's posts); I assume they'll get around to fixing that before long. The few youtube videos I tried to watch came out rather poorly, although I'm not sure whether it was the connection or the device at fault. Certain kid's books have an integrated audio reading feature which is nice. It came with three games - sudoku, crossword puzzles, and chess. I'm not particularly computer savvy so I couldn't tell you the first thing about the potential for modifications and obviously the app lineup is fairly limited for now but who knows what is coming. I didn't use it for long so I can't tell you much about battery life and I was in-doors so I don't know about outdoor usability either. As for the B&N store - I'm a bit disappointed with the relatively low magazine selection at the moment but I assume now that full color is available more magazine publishers will make themselves available for subscription. The BN library also doesn't have much in the way of gender and women's studies books so it's not currently of much use to me personally. I'm not in the market for an e-reader right now but I figured somebody here might appreciate the information. Right now it seems like a pretty solid device with some minor issues but I can only assume that they will be patched out with firmware updates and the like. A Fistful of Owls fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 17, 2010 |
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Nov 17, 2010 19:03
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Ok i am an American living in Canada.. I was going to pick one up at my US address. so I figured I would have a look at Kindle for my laptop.. Looks good.. then I went to some books and it says I cannot buy the book in canada without sending them a copy of my passport? WTF is up with this crap?
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Nov 18, 2010 03:01
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:If I could get a sony with the nooks replaceable battery and the kindle3's screen and 3g/wifi, I would be a happy man. I honestly am very confused as to why the replaceable battery is a selling point for you. The battery life on the kindle 3 is at least 3 weeks of consistent high-level use (albeit without wireless), and rather than say, plug it in, you want to be able to drive to a bookstore to buy new batteries (for 30 dollars, no less). Outside of the relatively contrived situation of going on a trip on low batteries, without your charger, I can't conceive of any reason it's a 'feature'.
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Nov 18, 2010 03:27
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Velius posted:I honestly am very confused as to why the replaceable battery is a selling point for you. The battery life on the kindle 3 is at least 3 weeks of consistent high-level use (albeit without wireless), and rather than say, plug it in, you want to be able to drive to a bookstore to buy new batteries (for 30 dollars, no less). Outside of the relatively contrived situation of going on a trip on low batteries, without your charger, I can't conceive of any reason it's a 'feature'. What he's talking about is that batteries wear out over time (due to lots of charge and discharge cycles) and he doesn't want to have to send it to Amazon when his craps out. Which is all well and good if we're talking about something that needs to be charged daily like a cell phone, but the Kindle can go at least 3 weeks without a charge so you're barely even touching the battery as far as wear and tear. I doubt I'll ever need to replace my Kindle battery and by the time that becomes an issue we will probably be able to beam books directly into our brains via DoucheTooth head implants or something anyway.
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Nov 18, 2010 03:44
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Bingo. I would rather be able to just swap out a battery if it shits itself rather than pack up my reader and hope the company can repair it, probably at a fee. Leave us not mention the lovely threat of how whoever handles the box (usps, ups, etc) might end up squishing it and breaking it on either the way to them or the way back to me. Hell, I would love a modular screen too. I just like the idea of being able to replace/fix poo poo on my own rather than having to mail back the whole shebang to the factory and wait a while for the replacement. It's not about the charging and swapping out the battery, it's about the option of fixing that at my leisure instead of waiting to get it done by a 3rd party.
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Nov 18, 2010 06:40
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I'm right there with you most of the time. I probably will crack open my kindle at some point just because there's very few electronics I own that I don't. Perhaps that's why I don't really care that the battery isn't "easily" replaceable, but I still don't think it's ever going to deteriorate over the useful lifetime of the device to the point where it's an issue. I looked at some tear-down posts on the internet before buying it, and it looks like the battery is pretty easily user-replaceable. On a related note, this is part of why I don't understand you calling it fragile. The internals of the kindle 3 are all mounted to a steel sheet - the casing is plastic, but it's a very solid build for the most part. When it comes to actually damaging the thing, the Nook being encased in aluminum or whatever won't really help with shock damage (dropping them) which is what you're mostly likely going to ruin it with aside from something hitting the eInk screen.
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Nov 18, 2010 08:30
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Liberty_MI posted:Ok i am an American living in Canada.. I was going to pick one up at my US address. so I figured I would have a look at Kindle for my laptop.. I'm also American but I haven't been back to America for years. I got mine delivered to Japan, have used it exclusively in Japan, and never had a problem with it. My Amazon account was created in America and I'm using an American credit card. If you're using a Canadian credit card, that's probably the problem. I just had to choose America as my country of residence somewhere along the line.
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Nov 18, 2010 11:23
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Ara posted:I'm also American but I haven't been back to America for years. I got mine delivered to Japan, have used it exclusively in Japan, and never had a problem with it. My Amazon account was created in America and I'm using an American credit card. If you're using a Canadian credit card, that's probably the problem. I just had to choose America as my country of residence somewhere along the line. See this is the thing.. I have an ancient amazon account with an american address, an american credit card.. I dont get it. I also have of course a canadian amazon account (different) etc.. now I am gunshy that this will be a huge pain in the rear end. This is what I got, I wonder if it is because I downloaded and setup the software in Canada.. Dear liberty_mi, I see that you attempted to purchase "Uncle Tom's Cabin [Kindle Edition]" while in a different country than United States listed on your Amazon account. Certain Kindle titles are not available everywhere. We are reaching out to you to ensure the best possible service for your account. If you have moved to a different country, you can easily update your country for your Amazon account at https://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle If this is not the case, and you would like to share information that you live in United States, we can be reached by fax at 001-206-266-1838 from outside the US, or 206-266-1838 from within the US. Helpful information includes: – Passport – Military ID – Permanent Resident Card – Driver’s License – Other state photo identity card We want to assure you that we handle this information in a secure manner: these are dedicated fax lines, staffed in an area with limited employee access. The fax is never printed, just converted to an electronic image that is used to check the country, then the image is deleted. Best regards, Account Specialist Amazon.com Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:07
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That all seems really reasonable and polite, man.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:15
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Liberty_MI posted:See this is the thing.. I have an ancient amazon account with an american address, an american credit card.. I dont get it. That's weird. Although assuming you didn't plug in another title, Uncle Tom's Cabin is probably well out of copyright by now and available off Project Gutenberg or something.
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Nov 19, 2010 19:21
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Yeah it freaked me out a bit, I certainly dont want to have to do that every time I want to buy something. I am a little bit DRM gunshy. IT wasnt just this book, there were several that gave me this message.
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Nov 19, 2010 20:23
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That email is worded really strangely but am I understanding right when I say you're trying to order these books while in Canada but while using your US Amazon account? It's probably stupid publisher/distributor limitations. Which is extra stupid on a public domain book but that's still probably what it is. Consider using a proxy with a US IP address.
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Nov 20, 2010 02:30
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Just a heads up. Wifi nooks at bestbuy.com are going to be 99 bucks on thanksgiving. Found out I have EARLY ACCESS to the black friday stuff, and retardedly enough all I want is a blu ray of Hamlet that was finally released, and it's not even a door buster or anything else. There are 2 other ereaders shown, but honestly they kinda look like poo poo. Sharper Image has one that is amazingly huge (something like 13"x9.5"x3.5") and it has a WHOPPING 512 MEGS OF INTERNAL MEMORY! The other is a cruz touchscreen, which so far all the reviews say it left people feeling like they were touchscreened in a bad place. Nifty deal on the nook though.
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Nov 22, 2010 10:05
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just a heads up. Wifi nooks at bestbuy.com are going to be 99 bucks on thanksgiving. Awesome! I've got a Nook myself but I've been wanting to get one for my brother and sister for Christmas. Also by chance does anyone know where to get a good epub of all of Shakespeare's works? I tried the one on Gutenburg, but there's no table of contents so it's kind of hard to navigate.
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Nov 22, 2010 15:09
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Death By Yogurt posted:Awesome! I've got a Nook myself but I've been wanting to get one for my brother and sister for Christmas. Full tables of contents, good formatting: http://www.feedbooks.com/author/494 Ara fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Nov 22, 2010 |
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Nov 22, 2010 17:27
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just a heads up. Wifi nooks at bestbuy.com are going to be 99 bucks on thanksgiving. Wait, on Thanksgiving, or on Black Friday?
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Nov 22, 2010 18:07
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The way I understand it, it's thanksgiving online, and black friday in stores.
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Nov 22, 2010 20:40
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I'm still playing with the new 1.5 update for the nook, but holy crap is it awesome so far. Page turns are insanely fast now, and the new display options are fantastic. Also, the font looks a little darker (not that it was ever difficult to read). Here's a side-by-side of the before & after updating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Le6PwPqQdI
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Nov 23, 2010 14:01
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April posted:I'm still playing with the new 1.5 update for the nook, but holy crap is it awesome so far. The page turn speed improvement is amazing! There is almost no delay at all now. I haven't had a chance to play around with any of the new functionality yet, but the page turn improvement is so great.
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Nov 23, 2010 17:06
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Decline posted:The page turn speed improvement is amazing! There is almost no delay at all now. I haven't had a chance to play around with any of the new functionality yet, but the page turn improvement is so great. Thirding the page turning speed, thing flies now, i used to press the button before finishing the last sentence because i had learned the delay speed, don't have to do that anymore 
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Nov 23, 2010 19:21
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here's how the kindle in canada thing works. amazon doesnt have a the license to sell every book in every country. if the book you are trying to buy isnt licensed in canada you get the error described above. however if there is proof on file that you are a us citizen who happens to be in canada for whatever reason theyll sell the book to you. to avoid books that you cant buy in canada, browse on amazon.ca. also change your account settings to reflect the country you are in or you cant buy anything. do it here https://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle i can answer most kindle question if you have any, i've worked for kindle tech support. i dont know as much about the other ones.
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Nov 23, 2010 20:42
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taters posted:here's how the kindle in canada thing works. amazon doesnt have a the license to sell every book in every country. if the book you are trying to buy isnt licensed in canada you get the error described above. however if there is proof on file that you are a us citizen who happens to be in canada for whatever reason theyll sell the book to you. to avoid books that you cant buy in canada, browse on amazon.ca. also change your account settings to reflect the country you are in or you cant buy anything. do it here https://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle So why haven't I needed to do anything similar in Japan? Is it because there are no Kindle books on amazon.co.jp?
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Nov 23, 2010 22:20
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Ara posted:So why haven't I needed to do anything similar in Japan? Is it because there are no Kindle books on amazon.co.jp? the countries that dont have a specific kindle market like canada/us/uk are all "international". if you had it shipped to japan, it more then likely has international settings, making book selection based on home market, in this case US.
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Nov 23, 2010 22:29
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Wasn't sure where to post this question. But is it possible to buy a kindle ebook from the Amazon UK store even though you live in the US?
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Nov 24, 2010 02:04
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theblackw0lf posted:Wasn't sure where to post this question. But is it possible to buy a kindle ebook from the Amazon UK store even though you live in the US? This changed recently. I think you can register your kindle on the UK site and buy books, but im not certain. .uk is a fairly separate company. -After poking around it appears you can register to the UK site but you'll be disconnected from your .com archive. you can get the .com books back by reregistering to .com, but then youll lose the .uk archive. its a convoluted work around, but i dont think its supposed to work at all.
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Nov 24, 2010 04:59
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taters posted:This changed recently. I think you can register your kindle on the UK site and buy books, but im not certain. .uk is a fairly separate company. I think you get a one time convert which takes your archive with you. I was a pre-uk kindle store .com-er from the UK, and when I was promoted to convert it kept my entire back catalogue.
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Nov 25, 2010 02:05
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Alright so I think i'm in the market for an E-reader, definitely leaning towards the Kindle right now, i'd like to get it before I take a vacation on Dec 5th. I could say that I don't "need" an e-reader, i've been contemplating one for over a year, the prices on the newest Kindle are pretty drat convincing. Is it still too early to buy one? The thought of at least having a bunch of books on one device is very enticing. Or should I just wait for a future generation version? I know the technology on these things is similar to computers and they'll just keep getting better and better and cheaper so it wouldn't make a huge difference if I buy one now or later.
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Nov 25, 2010 23:32
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Bingo. By the time you need to replace the battery, it'd be cheaper for you to buy the Kindle 6 or whatever the hell it'll be called.
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