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I dunno if I'd want to step up to the Laguna Seca trim. I kind of like having back seats.
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The Leguna Seca is a factory race car. FOMOCO is gearing up for stock trans am series. You heard it here first. Seriously though the only reason you'd want a Leguna is if you wanted a garage queen or wanted to participate in a factory stock series. It's way too much for anything approaching a daily driver.
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A.o.D. posted:It's way too much for anything approaching a daily driver. No way. People could daily drive it in all but the worst cities (Boston  ) just fine. They wouldn't, but modern suspensions are flexible enough that a race car would still be tolerable to ride and not tear itself apart.
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Isn't that why you can get two keys for it, with one activating a normal street engine tune and the other activating the balls-out track tune? The splitter might have to go for the street, yeah.
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redscare posted:Wait I lied, sorry. The Boss sucks, the brakes are slightly spongy and there's too much pedal travel. They're nowhere near as good as those on an Ultimate Driving Machine. There's a Car and Driver joke in here, but I just can't find it...
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Q_res posted:There's a Car and Driver joke in here, but I just can't find it... Gotta Have It Factor is a legitimate test parameter
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The Third Man posted:"We can't tell, but it still makes us mad Wasn't an article posted within like the last 5 pages that literally said that? "Overall, this new Mustang is the most comfortable, best handling RWD car we've ever driven. We wish it had IRS though."
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So the retarded "belt-sander on red rim" color scheme apparently is reserved only for the laguna seca trim?
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shodanjr_gr posted:So the retarded "belt-sander on red rim" color scheme apparently is reserved only for the laguna seca trim?  Yes. The regular 302 gets the more sedate black wheels with a bright rim. I think the red ones look okay on the black Laguna Seca but pretty bad on the silver one.
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Am I missing something on Ford's configurator or is there really no SYNC on the Boss?
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Pudgygiant posted:Am I missing something on Ford's configurator or is there really no SYNC on the Boss? No SYNC, no Nav and a barebones Stereo. I know they are going for a more purist approach but the gadget lover in me at least wishes they'd have them as options, although it wouldn't stop me from ordering if I could get one without a huge markup.
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redscare posted:Gotta Have It Factor is a legitimate test parameter It really is the best piece of automotive journalism to ever grace the printed page. Pudgygiant posted:Am I missing something on Ford's configurator or is there really no SYNC on the Boss? I don't think you get the BOSS 302.
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frozenphil posted:I don't think you get the BOSS 302. But...but...THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE HAS ONE!
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oRenj9 posted:But...but...THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE HAS ONE! No it doesn't.  
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I wonder when Ford will ditch the Shelby moniker and start calling its high-power Mustangs SVT Cobras again. Shelby doesn't do poo poo these days except sue everybody.
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Killbot posted:I wonder when Ford will ditch the Shelby moniker and start calling its high-power Mustangs SVT Cobras again. Shelby doesn't do poo poo these days except sue everybody. When everyone that was between the age of 8 and 18 in 1968 is dead
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From a purely business standpoint, they'd have to be window-lickingly retarded to do it.
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Are CAI+Tuner kit prices basically price-fixed everywhere online?
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redscare posted:When everyone that was between the age of 8 and 18 in 1968 is dead Those geezers can pay $60k+ for that ugly GT350 remake if they really wanted to have their Shelby thrill.
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frozenphil posted:No it doesn't.  Killbot posted:I wonder when Ford will ditch the Shelby moniker and start calling its high-power Mustangs SVT Cobras again. Shelby doesn't do poo poo these days except sue everybody. From my conversations with an average car person: probably never. The Shelby badge carries a whole lot of credibility; enough so to justify spending $60+k on a Mustang. A lot of (ignorant) people seem think the Mustang GT is crap. I was having a conversation with my uncle (not a car person) the other weekend and he was chastising the GTs in general because he seems to think that since his Tundra can take a bone stock fox-body GT in a highway drag race, all Mustang GTs are slow. He basically said, "The Shelby is the only new Mustang that's worth a drat." So yeah, the car-buying public is stupid and Shelby makes Mustangs look better to haters. So, I think Ford will keep them on for as long as possible.
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shodanjr_gr posted:Are CAI+Tuner kit prices basically price-fixed everywhere online? There's not much wiggle room on a plastic tube, air filter, and hand held tuner.
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Today the dealer offered a Kona Blue 2011 GT Premium with electronics package, comfort package, and the 19" machined wheels for 32,900, which is about $3000 below invoice. Should I push harder? I used USAA's pricing service which takes almost all the negotiation out of it... I feel like I should have to fight a little bit. Is this a good deal or what? Also, it doesn't come with the 3.73s. There's another one WITH the 3.73s, but he said a chain fell on the hood at delivery and they had to paint the hood and replace the windshield. I asked if they were knocking off money for selling a damaged car and he said no. But it has the 3.73's and I've heard its expensive to do them aftermarket. So... pristine w/o 3.73s, or repaired with... and should I be getting a better price?
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RockSmart posted:Today the dealer offered a Kona Blue 2011 GT Premium with electronics package, comfort package, and the 19" machined wheels for 32,900, which is about $3000 below invoice. Why on earth would it be expensive to do? You just pop off the cover on your oxcart, pull out the old gears, install the new ones.
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MikeyTsi posted:Why on earth would it be expensive to do? You just pop off the cover on your oxcart, pull out the old gears, install the new ones. Don't forget about backlash. If you don't know what you're doing back there you could seriously mess something up.
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Lava red: http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/lava-clean-outside-492480/ God drat. That is a lovely color.
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MikeyTsi posted:Why on earth would it be expensive to do? You just pop off the cover on your oxcart, pull out the old gears, install the new ones. 5 to 800. Easily. I dunno about you, but I hate spending close to a grand on a car I just paid 33K for. Did you ask the dealer if it's possible for them to swap 3.73s in?
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I'm waiting on one to come in with the right options and getting ansy. I want Black or Lava Red in an Automatic v6 or GT Premium with the electronics and comfort package...
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RockSmart posted:Today the dealer offered a Kona Blue 2011 GT Premium with electronics package, comfort package, and the 19" machined wheels for 32,900, which is about $3000 below invoice. That sounds like a better deal than I got. I paid almost that much (32k) for a Kona GT Premium without the electronics or comfort package. Mine had auto tranny, the 19" machined wheels, Shaker 500, and security pkg, so MSRP was in the 36s. Oh, and I got raped on my GTO trade-in. I feel kind of bad for not driving a harder bargain, but I was pretty stoked after the test drive. Normally my new car negotiations drag on for days.
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Powershift posted:Lava red: http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/lava-clean-outside-492480/ Looks... well, brown, to me. Or rusty black. Not a fan.
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Number_6 posted:That sounds like a better deal than I got. I paid almost that much (32k) for a Kona GT Premium without the electronics or comfort package. Mine had auto tranny, the 19" machined wheels, Shaker 500, and security pkg, so MSRP was in the 36s. Oh, and I got raped on my GTO trade-in. I feel kind of bad for not driving a harder bargain, but I was pretty stoked after the test drive. Normally my new car negotiations drag on for days. They're probably trying to move the '11s since they've just gotten two of the 12's on the lot. They come with a garage door opener and selectable EPAS and cost thousands more since there's no incentives. iwentdoodie posted:5 to 800. Easily. He said it's a 400 dollar option. How that translates into a dealer option I don't know. It's not just the parts and the labor, it needs to be tuned also. To get all $3000 worth of incentives I have to use their financing, which doesn't have the best rates. But is there anything stopping me from financing through them, getting my own financing (USAA) and bringing them a check for the full amount?
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RockSmart posted:They're probably trying to move the '11s since they've just gotten two of the 12's on the lot. They come with a garage door opener and selectable EPAS and cost thousands more since there's no incentives. no, that is exactly what my mom did on her GT. she only sent the first payment to their company.
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Does Ford always roll out the next model year this early? I thought they did that in the summer.
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A.o.D. posted:Does Ford always roll out the next model year this early? I thought they did that in the summer. Nope, March is the usual month for the next model year of Mustang for Ford.
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Powershift posted:Lava red: http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/lava-clean-outside-492480/ It looks like that deep purple from mid 90's Accords, or the Miata M edition. Maybe it looks red in person?
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Oh man, BBR is running an automatic 5.0 in Factory Stock this year; poo poo sounds sick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-EygfplXc
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RockSmart posted:
poo poo, you may be better off just doing USAA to begin with. When you figure in that original loan, plus the interest from it...then swapping it to USAA and even more interest, it may not even be worth it for the incentives. USAA usually has killer rates. I have nonexistant credit and got my used car loan at 4.3%.
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iwentdoodie posted:poo poo, you may be better off just doing USAA to begin with. When you figure in that original loan, plus the interest from it...then swapping it to USAA and even more interest, it may not even be worth it for the incentives. If I only pay the original loan long enough to avoid any early-repayment fees, I should be alright... just don't know how long those fees last
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RockSmart posted:If I only pay the original loan long enough to avoid any early-repayment fees, I should be alright... just don't know how long those fees last What type of interest rates are you getting on them, if you don't mind me asking?
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