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NikkolasKing posted:So like a couple weeks ago I looked up a random list of the richest authors in the world. Naturally folks like Rowling nd King were at or near the top but Sanderson is quite successful himself, right? He has his own company (dragonsteel?) and he's doing quite well which is another one of the reasons his writing output is so impressive
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It's very cute how much our clearly anime-loving magic-systwm-designing turbo nerd loves to write. I wonder if he has an account. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Apr 2, 2021 17:47
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mewse posted:He has his own company (dragonsteel?) and he's doing quite well which is another one of the reasons his writing output is so impressive Also he can afford to have 10x the number of beta and gamma readers that a normal fantasy author has, which apparently speeds up the publication process considerably.
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Apr 2, 2021 17:53
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I'm curious how much he makes off just his YouTube channel 
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Apr 2, 2021 18:48
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Tunicate posted:Also he can afford to have 10x the number of beta and gamma readers that a normal fantasy author has, which apparently speeds up the publication process considerably. wait are some of those people actually getting paid? or do you just mean he has the luxury to spend the time and administrative resources to go through several rounds of beta/gamma to improve the books
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Apr 2, 2021 19:47
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eke out posted:wait are some of those people actually getting paid? or do you just mean he has the luxury to spend the time and administrative resources to go through several rounds of beta/gamma to improve the books He seems to have a bigger team than a lot of other authors do, and having full-time assistants seems pretty necessary for wrangling several dozen beta readers or gamma readers (or for doing things like getting a paraplegic reader to go over the Rysn segments).
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Apr 2, 2021 21:04
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eke out posted:wait are some of those people actually getting paid? or do you just mean he has the luxury to spend the time and administrative resources to go through several rounds of beta/gamma to improve the books they are definitely getting paid
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Apr 2, 2021 21:50
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Tunicate posted:He seems to have a bigger team than a lot of other authors do, and having full-time assistants seems pretty necessary for wrangling several dozen beta readers or gamma readers (or for doing things like getting a paraplegic reader to go over the Rysn segments). yeah definitely, I think the results really have paid off, especially as he's increasingly been pushed towards more progressive politics and points of view farther away from his own background scary ghost dog posted:they are definitely getting paid that's cool, imho
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Apr 2, 2021 21:50
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scary ghost dog posted:they are definitely getting paid Employees of Dragonsteel Entertainment (Sanderson's company) are paid staff. Beta and gamma readers are not paid, unless they are specifically requested to do an expert's review. For example, 2 of the beta readers for Dawnshard were paid, because they were specifically chosen to make sure that Rysn's POVs and storyline was treated sensitively and accurately portrayed (and you can see this reflected in their feedback in the Kickstarter Dawnshard extras that were released). I imagine that the RoW beta readers with DID were also paid in relation for their feedback on Shallan's arc. Shad of Shadiversity YouTube fame was also paid to consult on accuracy of weapons for Adolin's storyline, etc. I imagine that the surgeons who were beta readers for Kaladin's parts in WoK would also have been paid, and similarly, the fighter pilots for the Skyward books too.
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Apr 3, 2021 00:15
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Do you think we will learn more about the Oathpact next book? Reading ROW has made me reread the whole series. And it's hard to view Honor as a good guy if he knew all along his chosen heroes would be mercilessly tortured, that the continued salvation of the world rested upon this. Just not a good look when you need people tortured. But if this was some later fact that they did not know of at the time of the Oathpact's creation, that is more understandable.
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Apr 3, 2021 13:08
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To be fair, being tortured to protect others from harm is a very honorable thing to do.
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Apr 3, 2021 13:57
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NikkolasKing posted:Do you think we will learn more about the Oathpact next book? of course he's not a good guy, people have done terrible poo poo to themselves and others for centuries in the name of honour. that said, if you were to choose between making 7 people suffer forever, in order to prevent the end of all life, I imagine you'd make the same call
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Apr 3, 2021 13:58
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I’m curious if it was all torture all the time, or if there was some downtime. Torturing the same people for that long has to get boring at times; maybe they spent some time having philosophical debate torture in between the physical stuff.
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Apr 3, 2021 14:14
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I mean its pretty vague but I interpreted it as like 'Pitting your [The Heralds] will against the fused, and by doing so you can lock all the souls on braize until you blink' and while not torture, over the course of millennia of it you go mad at it becomes a nauseatingly painful task. Imagine if your entire job was to hold down the space bar, all day, every day, forever. And sometimes the coworkers downstairs send you nasty emails asking you to stop pressing it. Its never really torture, but a Sisyphean nightmare.
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Apr 3, 2021 14:36
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M_Gargantua posted:I mean its pretty vague but I interpreted it as like 'Pitting your [The Heralds] will against the fused, and by doing so you can lock all the souls on braize until you blink' and while not torture, over the course of millennia of it you go mad at it becomes a nauseatingly painful task. I thought I remembered it being pretty explicitly torture.
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Apr 3, 2021 14:40
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For some reason in my mind it was something like "heralds appear on Braize and their job is to hide and survive as long as they can but they're inevitably caught and tortured sooner or later" maybe i'm just imagining that first part though. it's definitely explicitly torture at some point but i thought there was likely a lengthy pre-getting-caught period (though this may've changed over time as they went crazier and everything became more futile and inevitable) eke out fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Apr 3, 2021 14:45
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egg tats posted:of course he's not a good guy, people have done terrible poo poo to themselves and others for centuries in the name of honour. I don't know if I would but I don't think Sanderson would, either. I know some people have tried to insist to me that the Radiants are all equal but the Windrunners are very blatantly the best and rightest order to which we should take our moral cues from, not the Skybreakers or whatever Jasnah is. Kaladin is the best and most morally upstanding main character in the series and I don't think this kind of consequentialism is possible for him. ROW: And I think ROW established he and his entire order are closer to Honor than any others.
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NikkolasKing posted:I don't know if I would but I don't think Sanderson would, either. tbf I don't think "consign others to torture" is a choice he could make but proactively choosing to be tortured to protect others is a choice he'd probably make in a heartbeat, just like Taln did also morality and the orders seems pretty tricky, as we still know very little about Radiant culture back when it actually existed as a living thing, and instead have people thousands of years later trying to re-learn institutional traditions. this has worked pretty well for people like Kaladin and Dalinar that can just literally talk to the fragments of Honor, but others only have the imperfect and self-interested guidance of spren (dustbringers) and insane heralds (skybreakers) that seems to be actively at odds with what the orders once were (you're probably right that Sanderson's morality is obviously a lot closer to Kaladin's than Jasnah's ends-justify-the-means "maybe I should just hire an assassin to deal with this problem" take, but it's unclear to me that that's fundamentally What An Elsecaller Would Do as opposed to just what Jasnah, with her own history and trauma, would do) eke out fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Cicero posted:To be fair, being tortured to protect others from harm is a very honorable thing to do. it's literally jesus.
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eke out posted:For some reason in my mind it was something like "heralds appear on Braize and their job is to hide and survive as long as they can but they're inevitably caught and tortured sooner or later" No, I remember this as well. The Heralds would hide as long as they could, but would inevitably be found and tortured.
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Apr 4, 2021 02:38
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The torture was definitely real, I’m rereading WoK now and there’s stuff in there about fire and burning and bones and whatnot. From the prelude: ”Those fires, those hooks, digging into his flesh anew each day. Searing the skin off his arm, then burning the fat, then driving to the bone. He could smell it. Almighty, he could smell it!” EDIT: Although I guess you could argue that they are unreliable narrators due to insanity Martin fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 5, 2021 22:43
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Skyward 3 is done! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzf2DVrddoY And he has officially started on The Lost Metal - yay!
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funkymonks posted:This is spoiler free. I don’t like Mistborn series 1 all that much. I really don’t like the middle book. But the ending is good and satisfying. And sets up Mistborn Series 2 which I do really like. I finished it a few days ago and I’m still sort of ruminating about how I feel about the third book. It’s absolutely 100% undeniably better than the second, and some of the best parts of all three are in the later half of the story. If I had any issue I think my biggest one is that the third book has a lot of apologia for the Lord Ruler. Dude literally violently culled an entire race of people and did a whole laundry list of horrible things for a thousand years and for the whole book people kept going “he wasn’t so bad when you think about it” way too much, even if they backloaded explanation about Ruin loving with him. I’m also not entirely sure how I feel about religion ultimately being the thing that saves the day at the conclusion, but I admit I am not a religious person and I am aware BS is so I can hardly look at that second one as very much of a fault Ultimately those are a lot smaller than the issues I had with the second book though. I left feeling pretty satisfied and don’t at all regret my time spent on it. Audible happened to have Elantris on a buy one get one sale this month so I grabbed it and I’m going to give it a listen next. I’ve heard mixed things, but still looking forward to it.
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Apr 14, 2021 06:45
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If what i hope happens in future books and sazed does indeed become the villain, that lord ruler stuff he says would be excellent foreshadowing.
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DarkHorse posted:In a world where regular mages can blow you up with a thought, Alex can... see a few seconds to minutes into the future. You wouldn't think that's much of an advantage, but he's learned to squire that little bit for everything it's worth It's a pretty powerful ability when you can foretell/see exactly what you need to do in order to survive and outwit the enemy. It's been, like, two years since I've read the series, but I think the only time where Alex really tripped up was when his power got disabled from the monkey's paw. Leng posted:Employees of Dragonsteel Entertainment (Sanderson's company) are paid staff. Huh, didn't know that. That's cool. I want to hazard a guess and say that the rest of his staff deals with merchandising (supply chains?), with the man himself running the website, but I also don't know enough about this to assert anything.
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Pyre of Word Salsa posted:Huh, didn't know that. That's cool. I want to hazard a guess and say that the rest of his staff deals with merchandising (supply chains?), with the man himself running the website, but I also don't know enough about this to assert anything. His YouTube channel has got you covered! They did this one as part of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBTfWrCvim0 Leng fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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Apr 15, 2021 02:53
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Pyre of Word Salsa posted:It's a pretty powerful ability when you can foretell/see exactly what you need to do in order to survive and outwit the enemy. It's been, like, two years since I've read the series, but I think the only time where Alex really tripped up was when his power got disabled from the monkey's paw. Oh it absolutely, absolutely is. Just at first glance though would most people prefer the ability to fly, teleport, shield yourself, and blow up entire buildings? Or to see what's going to happen in a minute or two?  Verus constantly getting underestimated is a big component of his success at survival.
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Ah! I finally Well of Ascension the audiobook from my library. Hecking yes.
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