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team overhead smash posted:After I got into Sanderson, I shouldn't have started Stormlight while there are still eight books to go. I hate waiting. On the plus side he tends to put out 2-3 books a year, with a stormlight every second year, so you'll never go long without something at least.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2016 17:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 23:48 |
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Lobsterpillar posted:Has it been confirmed that Cultivation is splintered? Honor is dead, certainly, but Cultivation not necessarily? I've been assuming that's the case. My guess is that honor sacrificed himself in order to protect the rest of the shards, because obviously. There's no reason to think cultivation was dragged into that whole mess.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 01:49 |
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mewse posted:I just finished my re-read of stormlight 1 and 2 and now I need a new author... If you haven't read Robin Hobb's books you should read her stuff. none of her worlds have the same sort of magic system stuff that Sanderson does, but the worldbuilding is really good.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 17:10 |
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mewse posted:Start with Assassin's Apprentice? If Assasin's Apprentice doesn't grab you, you can check out the Soldier's Son trilogy, which is VERY different, and completely disconnected. The rest of her works take place in the same world. She also does a lot of writing as Megan Lindholm (her real name) which tends to be lighter in tone and largely self contained.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 19:16 |
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mossyfisk posted:Technically also a pen name (Margaret) and I have no idea how you got 'lighter in tone' considering most of it's about domestic abuse Didn't realize that! and not going to lie, the only writing of her's I've read was the "collaboration" anthology she did between the two pen names and I remember the lindholm stories in that being fairly light (though there were some dark themes, I'm remembering mostly the tone, if that makes sense?)
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 15:04 |
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smertrioslol posted:Are some of Sanderson's works only available on kindle? I looked on Amazon for the emporer's soul and the mistborn secret history and it was saying kindle only. I hope that's not the case and I'm just bad at the internet Looks like you can still get Emperor's Soul in his store: http://store.brandonsanderson.com/the-emperors-soul-hardcover/ Bit pricey compared to the ebook, obviously, but that looks like your option for something made of paper. IIRC there's a collection of that and another one or 2 novellas coming out this summer.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 14:07 |
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Shovelmint posted:I didn't know it was actually possible, but I've gotten to the point where I'm almost done reading all of Sanderson's non-YA books and novellas. Currently reading Emperor's Soul (So good!) and then Perfect State. After that I guess it'll be Rithmatist and Alcatraz. This has been the perfect come down after Infinite Jest. Hopefully he'll publish 2-3 more books before I finish the YA stuff. Sanderson is really good at short form writing. Almost everyone loves emperors soul.
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# ¿ May 19, 2016 10:52 |
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Wolpertinger posted:I had heard it was bland - are people liking it now? Given that it's been out for maybe like 2 days that's a pretty quick time to calcify your opinion and then have it changed. (White Sands the book was pretty "early Sanderson", and therefore I'm sure pretty bad, but White Sands the comic just came out and is hopefully really good..) My copy is sitting in the canada post depot right now, they were supposed to deliver it yesterday, today's a holiday, and they probably go on strike tomorrow. Everything is terrible.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 11:50 |
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Drunk Tomato posted:I had a friend who did not understand why Vin would not choose Zane. She thought he was way better than Elend, who she considered boring and whiny. Still baffles me to this day... Some people never get over their Hot Topic phase, I guess
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 12:09 |
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Torrannor posted:I liked Edgedancer a lot, but I have to think about the implications in there a bit before writing more about it. But while I was looking in Words of Radiance, I stumbled upon this part which didn't register with me before: I'd guess it's referring to either the Dustbringers, since they were largely mistrusted so were probably pretty secretive in public, or the Lightweavers, since their whole thing is subterfuge. This might also explain how the church is able to soulcast
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 20:42 |
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Tahirovic posted:So BranSan actually mentions Asimov as one of his influences, how do his books compare to them? Now that you mention it, I can kind of see some broad parallels, where Sanderson puts together a world and defines rules for it in order to see how it would function within those rules. For the most part though: Benson Cunningham posted:Haahahahhaahahahhaha
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 20:15 |
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RC Cola posted:I like how everyone says Mat the lazy irresponsible one and Perrin is the thoughtful responsible one. It's been a long while since I've read them, but IIRC mat was the one saying that like 90% of the time, usually just before or after he did something very difficult very well. The other 10% are people who knew him when he was a lovely kid.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2019 16:58 |
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I'd say read Warbreaker first but mainly because it's not as well written as the Stormlight books so I doubt it holds up. skip edgedancer is you're one of the funhaters who doesn't like lift (don't actually skip edgedancer he's pretty clearly making her arc one where she grows up over time and edgedancer is... pretty important there!)
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2019 14:54 |
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NikkolasKing posted:I'm a nerd who likes to talk Power Levels. Are the Shards the strongest beings in the Cosmere? Harmony is afraid of whatever that red stuff is after all and he has two Shards. power levels are only one half of the equation: sazed could absolutely trounce odium on pure power, especially because odium is spread so thin BUT shards can't act against their nature. or at least it's very difficult. as harmony sazed can probably not take aggressive action without an incredibly good reason. it's the same reason that odium or autonomy likely couldn't ever take hold of another shard. odium because they are hate, and they hate everything; and autonomy because taking up another shard would change them fundamentally, causing them to lose their independent nature. I'd guess having a shard like cultivation or preservation would make taking a second shard easier, and I could imagine being able to convince honour or endowment to give their shards up to you willingly but sazed is probably just the strongest being in the cosmere yeah (also WRT sazed being impassive, I suspect sometime soon we'll see him take action because another shard bringing war to his planet isn't exactly a harmonious action)
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 02:26 |
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Tunicate posted:[ I'd guess Odium only cares about killing the other shards, and either doesn't want to kill all humans, or just doesn't care about killing all humans. it's also possible that since the humans on roshar are from (presumably) odiums own world he feels some degree of kinship or responsibility there?
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 21:50 |
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Strumpy posted:https://www.tor.com/2020/08/17/behold-the-cover-to-rhythm-of-war-the-fourth-book-in-brandon-sandersons-stormlight-archive/ IMO best NA stormlight cover, looks great, A+ The UK cover is still better, but that's always how it is with Sanderson.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 17:24 |
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Torrannor posted:Dawnshard/RoW So Dalinar sometimes sees a mysterious light, and hears "Unite them", even when the Stormfather is not sending him visions. Is he already in possession of a Unite Dawnshard, without knowing it? I think that specifically what that means is to unite the Honor and Odium shards and become the shard War, based on the entire book we all just read. I'd guess that this all popped off because whatever's left of honor knows that some time ago someone managed to combine two opposing shards into a single, less destructive force, and the same thing can be done with Odium. Like, having a god of war running around would still suck, but wars have rules of engagements, and can be decisively won, or lost in a way that doesn't require complete annihilation edit:actually wait, that's definitely Cultivation telling him to UNITE THEM so pretend I said that up there
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 18:53 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:I'm wondering if two shards are more powerful than one shard or not. Because the book said something about that, something like all shards being essentially infinite in power so combining or not didn't matter to the overall power level, which was why odium was happy not combining and remaining itself. So maube what combining changes are the properties of the shards instead of the raw power. The new shard seem to have both the old magic systems, but if they are all infinte, still equal in power. the entire premise of Mistborn is that preservation put the slightest amount more of itself into humans than ruin did, and therefore, eventually, ruin could destroy preservation utterly. unrelated ROW spoilers from the signing livestream last week Brando Sando posted:Let's just say something weird is happening to make deadeyes. They didn't exist before the Recreance. There should be a relationship here that reminds you of something else you've seen in the Cosmere. Damnit I'm going to have to reread elantris aren't I, this just makes me think of elantris for some reason.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 21:28 |
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Torrannor posted:
iirc, the geographic change in elantris caused issues with their magic because it's actually based on drawing the geography around you - once that geography changed you needed an all new set of runes, you broke the old ones. it didn't impact all magic in the world, you could still carve runes into bone or rewrite an objects history, only elantrian runes were busted so that means that the recreance caused a fundamental change to whatever rosharan magic is based on, so that whatever was supposed to happen when a human breaks an oath no longer happens, right? who could still remember what happened pre-recreance? Syl, The Stormfather, Maya, The Sibling, and Cultivation? all the other sprens who matter are post-recreance right?
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 11:39 |
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Bruceski posted:I think the relation is more that (Stormlight/Elantris spoilers) in Elantris the problems come from the flow of power being blocked. People were set to receive it but it wasn't coming so they got side effects that were viewed as a disease. The Deadeyes are spren who are set to receive power from their oathbond, but that was blocked by the recreance and the result was also seen as an incurable affliction. Not a fundamental change to the system, people can still bond spren, but a mass-severing of the bonds that existed at the time. Similar effect, similar cause on a local scale, not the same cause on a global one. I don't buy that because according to WOB, before the recreance a radiant breaking their oaths wouldn't result in their spren turning into a deadeye, that's a change in how that works. so if the power is being blocked, what's blocking it? creating the bond clearly still works, but there was a process when breaking it and for some reason that's broken now, that process. like, if that was caused by the mass breaking of oaths, what thing in the world did that change? at least, AFAIK, I still need to re-read elantris
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 19:13 |
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a foolish pianist posted:Hey, so I’ve blown through the first three stormlight archive books, and I’ve just started on the fourth, and it seems a lot more after-school-special-y than the prior books, with a kind of ham handed “here’s the basics of fantasy mental illness” taking the focus away from what made the other books fun. Does this continue through the rest of the book? all of the Stormlight Archives books so far have been at least in part about mental health, and there's no reason to think that'll ever change, no?
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 19:35 |
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Infinite Karma posted:Besides the part about light, the Sibling being a godspren that's a child of both Honor and Cultivation, with a light that's a mixture of both implies that there is another godspren that's similar enough to be a sibling instead of a cousin. At least that's my speculation. I'm running on the assumption that it's the Sibling of the stormfather and the nightwatcher, personally
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2020 18:51 |
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Potato Salad posted:Okay, so, Shallan RoW who did Formless end up being? was it just ... Shallan herself? Yeah Formless was just Shallan, but she was just dissociating really fuckin bad.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2021 19:42 |
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Captain Monkey posted:Aren’t oceans land in the cognitive realm? Wouldn’t you just walk up to the weird box and pop it open? do we know how aluminum interacts with shadesmar? there might be something there we're unaware of
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2021 13:13 |
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Sab669 posted:I think the problem is that when we get flashbacks to Kaladin and Shallan's childhoods, NOBODY talks like she does. Kal didn't, the kids around Hearthstone didn't, Tein didn't, Shallan and her brothers didn't. It's not just that she "talks in a childish way", it's that a lot of her vocabulary doesn't feel Rosharan at all. this could also be an indication that she's very old. like, older than any of the other characters old. It seems pretty likely that her wish to the nightmother was to never grow up, so she might have existed as she was for who knows how long before she first appeared, and also that Cultivation just doesn't keep her promises, rather she uses them as pretense to force people to grow in specific ways. Lift's slang isn't modern, it's specifically old fashioned for roshar. looking forward to the lift flashback book when everyone talks like her (also you should read the lift chapter because after book 5 she's getting promoted to main character)
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 18:48 |
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big mean giraffe posted:Lift physically ages, she was 13 when the true desolation started. She's been binding for a while, and the latest book talks about how she has trouble fitting into spaces now Lift physically ages now. AFAIK we don't know that she has always been aging.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 19:47 |
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DarkHorse posted:Totally agree with most of your quote, no major disagreements though I do have an explanation for this one. Mild Cosmere spoilers I'd also include the fact that this sort of thing may certainly have happened before, but Dominion was still alive at the time in order to correct it, either by undoing the damage or informing the elantrians of the change. I don't know how long it's been since they were shattered but it's not like geographically significant chasms pop up on earth very often so I'm willing to accept whatever timescale
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2021 18:15 |
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Infinite Karma posted:I thought that was broadcast loud and clear, in a pretty heavy handed way. In everyone's point of view but her own, Navani is always a world famous inventor and artifabrian. Only she ever makes excuses about not 'really' being one. Plus she's revolutionized science and magical technology. Impostor syndrome, 100% this 100% I can't remember a single person who didn't suck (gavilar) claim she was anything but brilliant ASIDE from Navani. she didn't do the work of putting rubies in metal, but she invented flight! that's generally a p big deal. also she had some hints as to what she was looking for because of the antilight from the start of the book
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 00:19 |
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Hitch posted:Out of curiosity, have you read any of the Stormlight Archives series or whatever it’s called? I’ve only read Elantris by Sanderson and am interested enough to keep going. Was curious if I should start with one of yours listed or switch to what I assume is his premier series. for a bit more detail: probably the best way to read Sanderson is publishing order: he gets noticeably better over time, and while some later books are worse than earlier ones (Well Of Ascension is the worst of the original Mistborn series as an example), you're exactly where you want to be in order to really enjoy his books. And than means reading Mistborn, The Final Empire next. (if you're not digging a specific series obv you can bounce - if you liked elantris you'll probably dig Mistborn though)
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 19:59 |
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nah, navani is definately future trunks, she's super cool, mysterious, and has information that no one else has access to as cliché as it is, since they're always showing up at the last minute to save the day lift is goku edit:vvvvvv let it be known that I'm dull as a bag of uncut gems, I meant jasnah egg tats fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Mar 19, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 00:18 |
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NikkolasKing posted:So do different magic systems work on different planets? Humans used surgebinding on their old world as well as Roshar, right? yes but ALSO rosharians would call allomancy surgebinding and not really be wrong because it's an umbrella term. presumably the way humans surgebound before coming to Roshar was different from how they do now because Honor and cultivation weren't there Larasium will have the same impact on anyone who eats it, because it's literally part of preservation. it also might not exist anymore because Laras doesn't exist anymore! sazeium might do something completely different
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2021 16:54 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Do you think we will learn more about the Oathpact next book? of course he's not a good guy, people have done terrible poo poo to themselves and others for centuries in the name of honour. that said, if you were to choose between making 7 people suffer forever, in order to prevent the end of all life, I imagine you'd make the same call
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2021 14:58 |
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NikkolasKing posted:I dunno where to put this since it concerns two very different fictional works but the idea struck me after watching the latest dubbed ep of My Hero Academia and also talking to somebody on Discord who is presently reading Oathbringer for the first time. I think the medium plays into this somewhat, and framing moreso. when we meet dalinar, he's well past his lowest point, and he's already working on improving himself. we also spend a lot of time inside dalinars head in a way that just can't really happen with a Manga or an anime. up until the current arc of MHA, we only really knew endeavour by the way he influenced his children. by which I mean the way he abused them! dalinar isn't shown doing anything, like, evil until book 3, and even then only then in flashback. we basically meet endeavour by his kid telling us how he got his zuko scar literally the most important thing to get about dalinar early on, is that he is not the blackthorn anymore. everyone thinks that for better or worse that man is gone. endeavour is, like, still that dude. (ftr, I don't expect that MHA will stick the landing with endeavor because, while it was societies expectations that drove him to abuse his family, I doubt the author is going to actually do that. Sanderson has the freedom to be able to say that the story is about a fundamentally bad culture without also having to imply that his own culture is bad in the same ways, you know?) (even if by the way I see some Americans going on sometimes I wonder if y'all got The Thrill)
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2021 01:47 |
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Invalid Validation posted:Did he say he’s gonna do anything meaningful with the cosmere stuff? Like write books about it? Stormlight books kinda hint at a cosmic war but that’s all I’ve seen so far. Admittedly I haven’t read everything he’s written though. my understanding is that dragonsteel, the post almost everything Cosmere series will be about the assassination of adonalisium, the God that all of these shards were broken off of. it'll be followed by one final series to cap everything off with. also, somewhat more immediate spoilers for post Stormlight we've seen from the preview of the next sixth of the dusk book that radiants will be in conflict with allomamcers which is a more direct interaction than we've seen outside of hoid
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2021 03:10 |
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M_Gargantua posted:You don't actually need to know anything abought Nightblood or read Warbreaker to understand its role in the Stormlight books. But like all Sanderson books you'll keep catching other characters from other book series pop up if you start reading them all. while this is true warbreaker is both good and free so, you know, it's an easy reccomend
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 15:02 |
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Barreft posted:He's pushing himself to do too much. Just my opinion but look at this: realizing that Sanderson is more prolific than Steven King was at this point in his career has shaken me to my core and Sanderson's only drug is mtg
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 01:29 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 23:48 |
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eke out posted:no idea what he's teasing but I imagine the reference is to GRRM consulting on Elden Ring for FromSoft? I think he's just saying it's a mid-tier publisher, so not like Ubisoft, or Microsoft. epic would be out since he already did work with them (so not an infinity blade re-release or something)
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2021 11:35 |