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I just finished the first Mistborn novel and while I probably don't have anything to worry, I heard the next two aren't quite as good, but I feel like blind buying them at B&N tomorrow, so do they get a goon recommendation?
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Jan 13, 2012 07:30
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syphon posted:I agree with that one guy. I loved the first Mistborn (and REALLY loved Way of Kings) but books 2 and 3 weren't anywhere near as good. I thought Book 2 took a very long time to get anywhere, but that ending was Red Wedding worthy in how awesome it was. Then book 3 took a while to get off the ground and a lot of the book was just sieging but once they got out of that it was pretty cool.
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Mar 16, 2012 08:15
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Maytag posted:We can never openly discuss these books because new people are born all the time. On the other hand, the Red Wedding.
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Apr 20, 2012 07:24
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dmccaff posted:Just finished the Way of Kings. Thought it was quite sluggish up until the last quarter, at which point I couldn't put it down until I finished it. Be warned that the second book is basically a lot like how you describe Way of Kings, except that the payoff is moreso in the last two or three chapters then the last quarter.
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May 25, 2012 23:30
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Cartoon Man posted:Here's a basic spoilered synopsis, you can learn a lot more at the 17th shard if you want. http://coppermind.17thshard.com/wiki/Main_Page If that's true then my question is who has the shard of Feruchemy?
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Jun 10, 2012 17:33
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Well, after finishing Way of Kings, I have no idea how he's going to stretch this into a 10 book epic, but I eagerly await what comes next.
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Aug 23, 2012 02:39
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Aggro posted:I liked that Alloy of Law felt like a badly directed buddy cop movie. I only wish it had been longer, although with what I don't know (maybe a better villain than literally a regenerator or something).
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Aug 28, 2012 13:57
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Cartoon Man posted:Yeah, I know. But I stalled long enough. One button purchases, nooooo 
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Sep 12, 2012 22:48
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Above Our Own posted:I think that's just you defending the author by saying he made Wit intentionally unfunny instead of trying to make him clever and failing completely. I don't buy that he meant to do it because all the other "clever" characters are the exact same way. No, that's like saying GRRM is bad at humor because Patchface isn't funny. Both him and Wit personify the "wise fool" archetype, where someone who normally spouts nonsense has a lot more knowledge of the workings of the world/future than the smart folks. e: VVV Yeah, but my point is that neither character is supposed to be funny. If you want to point at bad Sanderson humor look at Shallan and her pseudo-Victorian humor. VVV computer parts fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Sep 16, 2012 |
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Sep 16, 2012 04:46
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This Post Sucks posted:I just started Elantris yesterday and after about 300 pages, I'm really enjoying it. I don't know why people have been saying it takes a while to get in to? Maybe it's like the Mistborn ones where the middle drags a bit? It's because the flashy stuff doesn't happen until the end of the book. If you're the type of person who's entertained by a man struggling with his faith and a guy rebuilding a cursed city (I was) then you should enjoy most of it.
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Sep 17, 2012 18:14
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Eric the Mauve posted:I just finished Way of Kings, loved it, but count me in with the "Wit is horrible" crowd. This character is in every Sanderson book (seriously, Elend/Lightsong/Wit are all the same character dropped into different circumstances/life stages) and for me at least it gets more painful to read, not less, with each new series. He's actually literally in every book.
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Sep 18, 2012 15:24
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keiran_helcyan posted:I love the idea that Sanderson comes up with his book endings first, then constructs the rest of the book to reach that point. That would explain a lot about how his books are paced.
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Oct 6, 2012 00:53
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Ulio posted:Thanks I guess this will be more clear when I actually read it.
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Oct 17, 2012 04:19
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm about halfway through the second book now and it's...not great. The first book was pretty consistent so this is a bit disappointing, I'm just not enjoying it very much. Maybe the first book coasted on the Kelsier character too much, I don't know but it's really boring with the focus being mostly on Vin and her character isn't anywhere near as interesting this time. I hope this gets better, avalanche or not. The second book is really not fulfilling until you see the last Sazed chapter, then it's awesome.
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Jan 4, 2013 22:00
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soru posted:What are you talking about? Yeah, everything in Alloy of Law I can think of is either backed up from earlier in the text or from previous books (the whole compounding thing).
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Feb 11, 2013 18:39
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quiggy posted:So I've been reading Elantris and it's kind of slow and boring. I know it's his first book so it won't be perfect, but please tell me that there's still a decent avalanche once I get in far enough. I liked it, but I personally found the mystery of "why did the power go away" to be sufficiently captivating, along with the whole "guy tortured about his faith" angle.
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May 10, 2013 20:12
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Quantum Toast posted:Yeah, this is a guy who takes a break from writing books by writing different books. I'd be surprised if he can burn out. Dude is going to live to 95 and in his retirement is going to finish Tolkien's mythos.
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Jun 21, 2013 16:32
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Tunicate posted:Well duh. Everyone knows that if it's in the future it isn't 'magic', it's 'psionics'. Starcraft is probably the best example of this. Space elves with floating crystals fight space bugs that can shape shift and both of them fight just normal humans that have shunned not-magic users.
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Aug 14, 2013 16:07
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The known ones for each book are in the back of each Mistborn novel. Alloy of Law has all of them and what a bunch of the combinations do.
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Aug 26, 2013 00:39
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This has probably been reported but there's a new GRRM & friends short story collection coming out, with Sanderson and goon favorite Jim Butcher as well: It comes out December 3, I might have to pick this up. Story list: quote:• “Some Desperado” by Joe Abercrombie – A Red Country story computer parts fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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Oct 8, 2013 15:12
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Superstring posted:Aren't Eragon and it's sequels supposed to be kinda bad? Eragon and the first sequel are very heavily based on the first two Star Wars films, I never read the other two. You can also tell that he wouldn't have been published if not for his parents.
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Oct 25, 2013 15:06
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senae posted:Well it likely would be person driven. Like, I could see a modern era mistborn having both cheap fossil fuel engines for personal use and more expensive, but less wasteful iron/steel engines being manned by a team of the appropriate metalburners. You could look at how having pewter burners (or pewter compounders) would change existing industries. How would people compete in law enforcement? Or construction? What sports exists. So basically we're going to get Dune but with metals instead of Spice?
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Oct 31, 2013 10:23
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treeboy posted:My wife and I enjoy discussing potential actors for our favorite Sanderson stories. Recently we've been trying to figure out who could ever play Vin in a TV series or feature length movie and I keep coming back to Jaimie Alexander (Lady Sif from Thor). She's obviously much older than 17, but hollywood doesn't care about that kinda stuff. Jennifer Lawrence would also be an easy pick.
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Nov 13, 2013 23:06
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Nitrousoxide posted:I just finished the first book of Mistborn. Are you saying that I should just stop now? I really liked the first one though.... The second book is basically the first half of Captain America 2 up until he discovers that Hydra infiltrated and controls SHIELD. It's one long buildup for a reveal that retroactively makes a lot of stuff awesome. The third book is sort of a culmination of everything and it does tie everything up.
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May 17, 2014 00:50
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Nitrousoxide posted:I'm about 60% of the way through the second Mistborn book and man has this thing been a huge drag. Like the whole book has been them sitting around doing almost nothing. I'm so close to just dropping this series right here and now. The ending makes up for it. As for me, I've just finished Words of Radiance and I can't really wait to see what happens next. As always, the battles were great and I don't think Eshonai actually died either.
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May 21, 2014 20:33
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Quantum Toast posted:Fantasy Heist seems like a rare combination too, for that matter. There probably are a few besides The Final Empire, but I can't think of any. Skin Game in about 5 days.
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May 22, 2014 18:45
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Huskalator posted:Ugh I'm just over half way through and I'm just not enjoying the new Stormlight book. I'm finding it unbelievably slow. I'm just skipping 3 pages at a time until something interesting happens. Pretty much any time Kaladin is just hangin out with his bridge buddies gets skipped all the way through. I don't feel like I'm missing much. If you're not interested in class conflict then a lot of Kaladin's chapters are kinda meh but he has some pretty good ones before the avalanche starts. It's much more Shallan's show though, and both of their chapters get better when they meet up with each other (especially if you've been hating the Adolin rivalry Kaladin's got). The interludes are also all pretty good although there's one with a child Radiant that's a little long.
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May 23, 2014 03:36
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Khizan posted:This is how I feel about basically all of Sanderson's stuff. In Warbreaker. the entire big war was seemingly averted at the last minute cause the guy went "Oh, here's my ancient invincible army, you can have it". In Elantris, the big end war was basically averted because at the last minute they all went "Oh, we have our powers back now and already know how to use them". Hero of Ages had "Oh, it's actually an entire army of atium mistings!" The Way of Kings sets up the betrayal of Dalinar and then Kaladin goes full anime and saves them. And then Kaladin does it again in Words of Radiance. That's not really what happened in Words of Radiance. I mean yeah Kaladin did go full anime at the end but the only one he fought was the Assassin. The Parshendi army was fought with the human army and they only got out by the skin of their teeth from the two stormwalls colliding.
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Jun 6, 2014 02:12
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Khizan posted:My wording was unclear. I meant that one in a more generic "Kaladin went full anime and saved the day" kind of way. But he didn't really save the day, he just saved Dalinar. In Way of Kings he gets all of the bridges reassigned to Dalinar which effectively saves all of their lives. If he hadn't been there in WoR one more guy would've died (albeit with a large focus on the story but that's beside the point) and the rest of the army probably would've made it to safety.
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Jun 6, 2014 02:48
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Democratic Pirate posted:Is book 3 or book 4 the Dalinar based book? I'm betting we find out more detail on the old magic in that book, right before it screws over him or someone close to him. Book 3 is supposed to be Szeth, I though Book 4 was supposed to be Eshonai.
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Jun 12, 2014 18:06
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senae posted:A more elegant way to do that would be to make szeth explain a different binding each intermission, but that would probably be a bit straightforward for Sanderson To be fair he basically did that in Words of Radiance with the Parshendi forms.
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Jul 11, 2014 21:31
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thespaceinvader posted:He lays out the tiniest of tiny parts of the magic system at the beginning. Surgebinding is literally one of the two major abilities of one of the ten groups of magic users using one of the two (possibly three) magic systems on Roshar, which is itself a world in the Cosmere with a dozen or so other worlds, each of which has at least one, sometimes two, three or more different magics systems, many of which are often mis- or incompletely-understood. There's this too. Outside of the prologue and climax of Book 1 you find out jack poo poo about surgebinding and it's only into book 2 that you find even a sliver of understanding (and then Sanderson turns it on its head with the revelation that Szeth didn't need a Spren to surgebind because of his sword).
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Jul 13, 2014 03:25
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pile of brown posted:You're a loving crazy person, a main pov character for five books dies in book five. It's very unclear that they're dead (and very unlikely that they don't come back). In any case, stuff like the Red Wedding was foreshadowed a lot more heavily than (e.g.) Kelsier getting stabbed. Actually the whole Kelsier thing is very equivalent to Ned Stark in a lot of ways.
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Jul 13, 2014 16:29
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Karnegal posted:On a book note. I finished WoR and I wanted to know why people seem to be upset that Adolin killed Sadeas. Is it just an "honor" thing because at this point the dude has pretty much said he's angling to take his family out and has proven that he's willing to see thousands dead to accomplish that. I am 100% cool with him murdering the dude, though 'm sure the books will frame this as bad because the Knights Radiant wouldn't do such a thing. But as a reader, I'm not sure why people object to it. It's because it came out of nowhere and that a significant part of the book was kind of devoted to that antagonist, even though there wasn't really much else you could do with him.
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Jul 19, 2014 06:38
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Another Poster posted:Just finished WoR. Feeling a little bit sad for Adolin. I liked him. At least I hoped we can see more Lift. Lift is full of awesomeness. Supposedly Spring of 2016, the delay between books 1 & 2 was reported as being due to him finishing up Wheel of Time. e: He wants to have it out by fall of 2015 but his editor is thinking probably in 2016.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:27
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Rumda posted:http://www.audible.com/series/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_1srSrs_sa?asin=B005NB2IG0 The Dresden one is funny because there's a book where he goes through a monumental change (but it only lasts for that book) and they couldn't get the regular guy so you can pretend like the new guy is the protagonist in this new form.
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Aug 3, 2014 16:32
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Ithaqua posted:Meanwhile, I find the characters that use contemporary English expressions to be far more jarring. Like that character that used the word "awesome" constantly. That was so bad that when the preview chapter was posted, I was sure it was an early draft and the language would be fixed later. That's because you're used to old timey English (which didn't actually exist) for fantasy. Meanwhile, using phrases like "He ejaculated quite forcefully at me" would have taken even more people out of the narrative.
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Nov 2, 2014 15:06
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Damo posted:Man I only just finished WoR a few months ago but seemed to have forgotten like 90% of the book. So much poo poo happens. I'm definitely gonna be lost regarding where the story stands by the time the next book comes out. -Evil Wave appears - They discover some Radiant ruins - Dalinar bonds with the Stormfather - Everyone knows Kaladin can do magic That's about it.
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Nov 24, 2014 02:10
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Quinton posted:I actually feel like it's the other way 'round now -- the timeskip would have allowed us to not have to plod slowly with everyone place to place and check in with the characters once things had advanced a bit -- I feel like things have really slowed down and dragged out in the last book or two as a result of just going straight through instead of skipping forward. It was bad for GRRM's story because some POVs you can jump into without any flashbacks (Arya mainly, but I guess Dany also) but some require a large amount to figure out what's going on (Cersei, Jon, Bran especially, everyone in the South really).
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Dec 2, 2014 14:24
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Tunicate posted:IIRC, they mostly cancel, but are slowly giving him a bias for inaction. That wouldn't really make sense though since Preservation is unbalanced by default, so he's been siphoning off some power into atium.
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Jan 1, 2015 23:13
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