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https://www.tor.com/2022/09/26/read-the-lost-metal-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-3-4/ chapter 3 and 4 are up!
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2022 17:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:45 |
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Perhaps wrath is a better descriptor. We know odium is what his enemies call him, rather than being the inherent name.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2022 16:30 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:You have this one a bit backwards. (Mistborn arc 1 and 2 spoilers) The Lord Ruler is that way because of Preservation's power imprinting on them during the brief period they wielded the Shard's power. It's why he's driven to preserve the world as it is. IIRC Harmony makes a comment to this effect at some point as well in Lost Metal or Shadows of Self. mistborn 1 he was always super racist though, his ideology of 'people with magical power should rule over those who lack it' is consistent
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2022 23:14 |
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They are from a couple places, but mainly Ashyn, the planet they ruined
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2022 01:38 |
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Maybe Cultivation used Nightwatcher as a proxy for Taravangian and Lift? Or has it been explicitly stated that cultivation met with them? been stated WoB that it was her, yeah
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2022 06:36 |
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On the other hand [era 2 spoilers]sazed immediatley whitewashes the lord ruler and seems to view people largely as chess pieces to manipulate* rather than as being worthy of respect, so I wouldn't necessairly trust his opinions. That said I think Klesier is generally a lot more moral in his behavior than Sazed. *the way he treats Wax is a continuation of his era 1 arc where he fully develops his philosophy that people should be given beliefs based on the usefulness of them possessing those beliefs.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2022 23:11 |
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Anshu posted:Can we really put all the blame on him for that, when Brandon was the one who started it? Those sections were written in-character.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 05:12 |
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Taffer posted:On Kelsier I don't know about a psychopath (maybe?) but Kelsier is definitely a sociopath. A lot of people use those words interchangeably so Brandon could have meant the latter. I wouldn't exactly call Kelsier indiscriminate considering how absurdly over the top evil Final Empire nobles are.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 18:05 |
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About 1 in 3 nobles are publicly known to be rapist murderers, I think it's a very fair default assumption that any given noble is guilty of something heinous. It's certainly a lot better than Elend's "don't punish any of the nobility because of the economy" stance.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 18:26 |
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Taffer posted:
I mean, when one in three of them are publicly known to rape and murder skaa on the regular, and the rest of them don't do anything about it, I'd say they're all involved in driving the system. The problem is that Brandon way overshot how evil he wanted these guys to be, for how they're treated in later books. Tunicate fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Oct 13, 2022 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2022 07:06 |
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Radiants all have a slew of emotional problems, kaladin fighting at 100% is different than kaladin having a ptsd breakdown.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2022 22:58 |
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Clearly the solution is to manufacture ghosts, which you then bind as artificial spren to gain incredible magic powers. Ambitious? Yes, but nothinf could possibly go wrong with it.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2022 01:29 |
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oh yeah what did folks think of the TLM chapters https://www.tor.com/2022/10/17/read-the-lost-metal-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-ten-and-eleven/
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2022 08:23 |
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Kaladin made the wrong decision at the end of WoR, and made the wrong decision at the beginning of OB, and I'm hoping his arc comes around to realizing that acting as a hitman for the lighteyes doesn't really protect anyone.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2022 03:25 |
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Obviously he joins odium and changes his name to Zellion.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2022 20:49 |
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NikkolasKing posted:i had a bunch of notes I had taken while going through WoR but I lost all of them. 2. Basically because of the timeline, a physical resemblance, and the character not appearing elsewhere.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2022 02:54 |
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Maybe Harmony should be less of an rear end in a top hat if he wants to remain on speaking terms with people.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2022 23:50 |
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I have read a couple books where a fatal dose of radiation leads means the protagonist has nothing left to lose, and spends his 'walking ghost' phase on One. Last. Job.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2022 20:52 |
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there's some WoB that he's leaving 'are cognitive shadows actually the original people, or are they just a reanimated corpse of their astral body' ambiguous, along with most of the 'is there a true afterlife' type questions, since it's more interesting if there's in-universe debate and uncertainty for this kind of question
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2022 03:44 |
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CK07 posted:I encourage anyone who was surprised by this to go read some Agatha Christie novels, to prepare for life after high school. oh it's simple, the entire alloy era plot was an elaborate heist for Hoid to obtain the final dragon ball
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2022 08:29 |
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I can't believe MeLaan tells Wayne that he was an incredible bang, best in history
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2022 03:30 |
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Shallan is also super racist, and is vocally blind to it in a very familiar and grating way.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2022 19:59 |
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Taffer posted:I don't recall this, what are instances where it happened? *meets kaladin* *immediately robs him while doing a racist Unkalaki impression* Later: Kaladin complains that lighteyes treat darkeyes like their playthings and don't respect them or treat them as equals. Shallan: "Oh yeah, well since WHEN have I EVER done anything to you HMM? Maybe YOU are the real racist?"
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2022 05:24 |
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In the ending wayne detonated ettmetal next to trellium - and replicated wax's accidental lerasium production on a massive scale. so there is now a huge plume of vaporized lerasium and atium blowing over the most population dense city on the planet
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 20:18 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Ghostbloods they seem to follow Kells concept of "crime, for the greater good", while without supervision Mraize and his group seem to be "crime, for my good". I'm sure the Scadrial Ghostbloods themselves also get nukes don't cause tidal waves, but it at least is something people were thinking about irl before it was tested so she gets a pass. I'd assume these are closer to a theoretical antimatter bomb when detonated fully, instead of the 'fizzle' wayne caused Tunicate fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 17, 2022 |
# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 20:40 |
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eke out posted:my understanding is that he literally stops this specific thing from happening Wax got his powers from the accidental second explosion in his basement, which was due to detonating ettmetal next to trellium, rather than the first bigger explosion which involved the polarized electrified ettmetal. This is also probably why the Set didn't figure it out - they were all in on polarized ettmetal and didn't futz around with splitting vapor from normal ettmetal blasts Tunicate fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Nov 17, 2022 |
# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 21:59 |
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Anshu posted:TLM epilogues I'm surprised Kelsier immediately accepts Sazed's claim that any lerasium produced from the splitting experiments is "destroyed by the explosion". Granted that Sazed has had hundreds of years to become more practiced at lying, but it still strikes me as the sort of thing Kelsier would want to investigate himself just in case. Kelsier knows Sazed is lying because Sazed turned Spook into a mistborn already
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 10:07 |
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I think it was the person who first touched them, who immediately left with the Malwish afterwards
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 19:08 |
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https://www.tor.com/2022/11/01/mistborn-era-2-everything-you-need-to-know-before-reading-the-last-metal/comment-page-1/ Tor has a good pre-TLM recap
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2022 19:24 |
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Yeah, coppermind has the nice 'time machine' feature where they let you browse the wiki as it was the day before release
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2022 19:31 |
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I think we will give you superpowers if you train to kill this guy, and if you succeed, you will be well paid and god will give you extra benefits is an offer that there is no shortage of takers for.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2022 03:24 |
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CapnAndy posted:TLM secondary character spoiler: I've now seen elsewhere online that Moonlight was Shai, and... what? Are there some pretty major clues I missed somehow, or are people really doing that solely off of "is a female Forger"? Because Shai would have all her self-changing Essence Marks (and the ultra martial artist one would have come in handy), she wouldn't be so amateur as to forge a mark where she wouldn't know if she'd remember her true self afterwards, and I'm pretty goddamn sure the timeline in no way lines up. Her name is shai, but with the elantrian pronunciation when she transforms. I'm guessing she had some issues with bringing her magic to scadrial, explaining her relative level of unpreparedness
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2022 06:24 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Something I'm glad Sanderson seems to have dropped is the idea of "snapping" or "being broken" as a requirement for special abilities. It makes certain events from TSA backstory sound perfectly good and rational if suffering and near death situations bring out magical powers. From what I understand, in stormlight it's still there, but as something that makes things easier but isn't required. In mistborn it got changed because god didn't like it.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2022 06:51 |
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The only times that sazed seems to be capable of acting is when he's destroying things. People keep talking about his imbalance being a problem, but maybe it's the only reason he can act at all.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2022 21:25 |
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Torrannor posted:He did Preserve Wax after the explosion, but that was a relatively small scale thing. And he worked quite hard to preserve the cities in the Basin, so I'm not sure I agree with the statement that he can only act when he's destroying things. wax survived without any direct intervention - the time sazed seened to actually be actively helping him was in the tower when wax went into a berserk fugue
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2022 23:51 |
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Whoops must have missed that
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2022 01:46 |
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Missed opportunity forher to call Wanye a fantastic bang instead
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2022 21:23 |
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i am not sure if trellium gets depleted in the process though
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2022 03:08 |
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Sab669 posted:Something I don't think I've seen anyone discuss ITT: Any hypothesis about who drained the Bands? The most likely suspect is the person who last touched them, said they were drained, and then immediately left with the Malwish ambassador. she's a leecher or some poo poo.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2022 21:07 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:45 |
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Taffer posted:I'm really impressed how he's basically picking a public fight with Audible. I love audiobooks and so as a consequence I use Audible because that's all there is, but man I would love an alternative. Hopefully one that isn't Spotify, though..... Speechify?
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2022 09:08 |