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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Dawnshard If Change is the knowledge expansion needed to wield four of the sixteen shards with Adonalisum's level of power, I bet you that investiture associated with Cultivation (definitely a Change shard) assisted in blowing up the Shin homeworld. Perhaps Cultivation herself wanted to get back with Tanavast because Tanavast originally felt he made an oath to stay separate from the other shards.

I bet she pushed her Yolen-originated people to attempt to terraform their planet.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Dec 19, 2020

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Torrannor posted:

Dawnshard/RoW So Dalinar sometimes sees a mysterious light, and hears "Unite them", even when the Stormfather is not sending him visions. Is he already in possession of a Unite Dawnshard, without knowing it?

See, I love this because that warm feeling Ryan gets in her mind when she does well by her Command sounds very much like Dalinar's experience.

I suspect that the Dawnshards are going to be related to the four fundamental things that Yolish Axi could do, and Unite and Change sound very much like two of those things.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Dec 21, 2020

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Calidus posted:

Cosmere/Roshar/RoW question: Do we actually know the state of the Honor Shard? Odium killed the host but shards can’t be destroyed right. I guess you could break it into small shards but the conservation of energy applies in cosmere.

GOD IS DEAAAAADDDD!!!!1 From my perspective, Dalinar commenting on Rayse looking so small is the huge clue that Dalinar is loving around with enough shard-stuff to rival one of the more knowledgeable and capable gods.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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egg tats posted:

reread elantris

Senile seons

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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All 'Breakers Are Cremlings

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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^ there is a WOB that contradicts Syl. I'll go find it, but it basically explains that Odium is locked onto Braize by Honor's shard. More, an entity would have to control the majority of Honor's shard to release Odium.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Sixth of the Dusk 2 reading

The shardbearer space marine who is speaking with a funny rhythm - is that a Singer?

I for one wouldn't at all mind seeing Roshar returned to the Singers long term.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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doublepost

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Okay, so, Shallan RoW who did Formless end up being? was it just ... Shallan herself?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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The Emperor's Soul

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Aluminum gnat hardmode

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Sanderson's pitch for Era 2 was apparently "you're checking in on your old buddy who became a god"

harmony is supposed to be loving it up


(mod edit: someone asked for spoiler tags)

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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my read is that the commands are Daddy Addy's expanded knowledge and will; the Shards provide expansiveness of mind and power

It's clear, to me, that most of the post-Shattering Vessels are completely unfit for the task of truly wrangling their shardic intent; maybe Addy had a leg up because he had a gigantic advantage in willpower

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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I'm big into how cosmere magic works, so I honestly loved those sciencey chapters because I feel like I got a loooot of answers

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Pennsylvanian posted:

Maybe just once in a while, I'd like to experience a fantasy story where the protagonist can just be a ruthless power abuser in a practical way.

Hmmmm...Kelseir?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Mordiceius posted:

Does Sanderson's writings ever get less... extremely hetero?

Across the Mistborn trilogy and the first half of Elantris I've listened to, it all is extremely hetero at all times.

Also, aspects of Elantris feel very Mormon - in a way that Mistborn doesn't.

interspecies poo poo is probably going to be happening

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Roshar WoB Renarin and Rlain

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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"oh it's magical skype" is something that you can figure out from context in the Stormlight books when The Thing In Question comes up

You really don't need to burn yourself out with Elantris if you have better things to read. Imo, If you want to become a cosmerenaut, reading a synopsis is adequate.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Spoiler but really not actually a spoiler: Kaladin is going to keep saying :words: and you're going to get chills every time he tries.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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KKKLIP ART posted:

Also Dawnshard is the best novella and you’ll have to fight me to change my mind.

but, but Emperor's Soulllllll

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Sab669 posted:

Gonna start reading Adolin dialog in my best GWB voice now :ohdear:

He's far too sharp to have a slow drawl.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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dalinar strikes me as a Rogal Dorn type

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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I don't think it would be smart for Sanderson to toe that line, especially as a Mormon.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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:sickos:

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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I'd gander that indicators of corruption means there's corruption.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Mistborn Era 2: Harmony is the Supreme Kai. They come across as extraordinarily enlightened and powerful at first -- and they legitimately are. As time goes on, however, we learn that they're relative newcomers to the divinity gang and that there's a lot of moving parts in ancient plots that they are furiously trying to figure out.

Stormlight: Honor is Daikaioh.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Mar 19, 2021

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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I don't think we know for sure exactly where that comes from.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Thyrork posted:

Finally got back on the stormlight train, read edgedancer and rhythm of war, Good stuff. Kinda had the pileup at the end but eh. Now the wait resumes. :ohdear:

The following shitpost is inspired by the upcoming nier replicant release and is heckin' spoilers;

I'm serious, stop reading this if you've not read to the end of war/book 4 yet.

"Wit, you dumbass! Start making sense, you rotten old coot, or you're gonna be sorry! Maybe I'll rip your Breath's out, one-by-one! Or maybe I'll put you in the goddamn furnace! How can someone with such a big, smart brain get blindsided like a little bitch, huh?! "Oh, Odium! I owned you, Odium! Come over here and give Wit a big sloppy kiss, Odium!" Now pull your head out of your goddamn rear end and start loving helping us!"

But seriously that.... I did not see that coming.

Wit's pocket coin thing is such a staple of rogue powergaming against mind-affecting abilities that there's no way Wit is clueless about what just happened.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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BananaNutkins posted:

6th of the Dusk is good, and isn't it the book that sorta explains Stormlight's weird use of chickens?

birds are not native to Roshar, non Cosmerenauts think a chicken is representative of all birds

imo the behavior of 6th birds is clearly coded as parrot like

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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the way of kings, to me, was largely Sanderson saying "yes ok I'm genuinely listening, I can write about contemporary topics and get it right"

like, TWoK and to a degree WoR are proof that Sanderson can engage deeply with people very unlike him, listen open minded, and represent them well

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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I still think the way he represents Shallan makes no sense but I'm assured by an acquaintance that it really be like that some days, which I guess means that I'm the one who has more to learn

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Louisgod posted:

Are the characters in Stormlight supposed to be progressive or something? I don’t really get that vibe outside the clear socialist themes of “listen to and empathize with the every day worker/person” concept but the whole sexy safehand thing is so loving funny and dumb.

I don't think that the characters are supposed to be progressive or whatever -

More like, the characters' challenges are made as true to life as Sanderson can swing it, and so long as he's soliciting genuine feedback and trying hard, it's pretty good so far

he's doing a good enough job that the strikeouts really stand out

also, seconded that Vorin Safe Hand Horniness™ is really fun in a dumb way. it's so on the nose, but this is the same author who made Wax & Wane the names of main characters in a story about rapid change

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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socialsecurity posted:

I do like how he threw in that line about Shallan talking to some Ardents and being like "what I have isn't like the actual disease some people have this is some magic poo poo"

so I have an artist friend and sanderson nut who does legit shift in and out of a whole slew of masks, and their take is like

if you take their very real, very fluid sense of self and make each mask more real through something like Forgery, that's what Shallan seems to have - in their opinion

a very real problem, augmented by the reality-twisting effects of human perception projecting changes into the cognitive and spiritual planes

it's a bit loving abstract and that makes it REALLY hard to see what's going on

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 21, 2021

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Invalid Validation posted:

Both Shallan and Kaladin have a problem of reverting most of their character growth between books. I really loved Kaladins growth in the first book and his origin story was genuinely great. You could tell he blew his load on it and needed to start over to give him something to work on again in subsequent books.

You know what, I think I'm actually looking for excuses to give the author, but the idea that traumas and problems are a two steps forward, one step back kind of cycle is suddenly very very relatable and real to me

that being said, I don't think Sanderson is writing it that way

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Serf posted:

Just finished up Edgedancer, about to start up Oathbringer.

All I'll say is that Lift is the best and her dynamic with Wyndle is truly endearing. Oh and what the gently caress was up with that monster made of bugs? That's some Worm That Walks poo poo.

I also read Warbreaker and my big takeaway from that book is that is amazing to see just how far a writer can progress over the course of their career. That book was loaded top to bottom with problems. Still an enjoyable enough read, but I'm glad it wasn't my first Sanderson novel.

All I'm going to say is that you better make sure that you read Dawnshard after Oathbringer, don't loving miss it.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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welcome, cosmerenaut

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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what if they're all bad

God is dead, hail Satan the ones who came before

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Feb 3, 2022

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Unless TOR's getting a cut I'm sure they're less than happy to see all this money that isn't going to them.

tbqh Sanderson is likely a top performer, so idk how mad they could really be

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

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Imo there's almost certainly going to be a present-and-future or influence-and-observation tradeoff in the spiritual plane as a fantasy ripoff of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

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