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Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Kreeblah posted:

Um, you sure on that? The date I've got for ToM is in November.


This is true. I seriously don't know how he manages to write as much as he does.

He said in the past that he's able to write one book while editing another. Or plan a book while writing another. However, he can't write two books at the same time. I think most authors plan, write and edit a book and don't touch anything else during that time. Also, Sanderson treats writing like a job and doesn't take retarded vacations to Europe every few months.

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Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I guess this is the thread where we'll talk about Sanderson because I don't think Cartoon Man has gotten around to finishing his Sanderson thread yet. That being said, there was some discussion in the WoT thread about Sanderson's overarching storyline that ties his worlds together. For those that don't know, there are hints here and there in all of his non-WoT novels that the worlds these stories take place on are part of the same universe. Sanderson has said that this stuff is not necessary to enjoy his books, just a little something extra that he will expand upon in future books.

Here are three links he posted on twitter last week for fans asking about this stuff:

:siren: Be careful, all of these links contain spoilers for Brandon's published, unpublished and future books. :siren:

http://www.stormblessed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=24

http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=7006.0

http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=7292.0

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

After Mistborn, Warbreaker is definitely his next best book (not including TGS). Sanderson himself talks about the quality of his writing and admits that the stuff he wrote before Elantris is crap and the stuff after has gotten incrementally better. Elantris is pretty good but it's a bit boring in my opinion. Very cool concept that could have been done better.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I thought each book in the Mistborn series got incrementally better. Book 3 was excellent in my opinion but that was due, in large part, to the ending. I thought Sanderson did an absolutely excellent job wrapping up the series and answering the questions that I had.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I finished The Way of Kings last night and it was really good. It was a great opening book for the series. The thing I like the most is that Sanderson left so many questions unanswered but still did a good job introducing us to the characters and telling a coherent story.

What are the Parshendi? Saying they are voidbringers seems wrong to me. Who is the Almighty from Dalinar's visions? What is Odium and what are these "rules" he has to play by? What are the spren, why do they not appear in Shin and why are they constrained when humans measure them? What is the deal with the heralds? Where did they go between desolations and where did they go after they left? Why did the Radiants abandon humankind? Where do the storms come from and why do they grant things/people power? What is up with the safe hand thing? Why are people with bright eyes nobility? Hoid said at the end that there was a good reason for it. And speaking of Hoid, I hope he has a central role to the storyline and we get some answers on him, although I doubt this will happen. And finally, holy poo poo I can't wait for the inevitable Szeth vs Adolin/Kaladin showdown.

Sorry for the huge spoiler block, I'm just impressed with how many storyline threads Sanderson has created. I love the setting too, theres a ton of poo poo going on.

edit: Oh I forgot another question, what did Dalinar ask the Old Magic to give him and why did it delete his wife from his memory? I can't wait for the rest of the series to be completed.

Streebs fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Oct 18, 2010

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Superstring posted:

Just from what I've been able to glean myself online and in the book.


As for the bright eyes thing, I took it as saying it was as good an excuse as any other humans invent to rule over other humans.


Hoid's thoughts at the end,

quote:

That crazy man happened to have blue eyes, which let him get away with all kinds of trouble. Perhaps Wit should have been bemused by the stock these people put in something as simple as eye color, but he had been many places and seen many methods of rule. This didn't seem any more ridiculous than most others.

And, of course, there was a reason the people did what they did. Well, there was usually a reason. In this case, it just happened to be a good one.

It seems to me that he's implying something more.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Charlz Guybon posted:

What? I've been following him since he got signed on by Jordan's widow a couple of years ago and I don't remember ever saying he was working on a Mistborn sequel. Amazing.

From the above link:

"Mistborn is a trilogy of trilogies, with the second trilogy in an urban (20th-century-level technology) setting."

After Mistborn 3 came out, Sanderson answered some questions on his forum about Mistborn. His plan is to make the second trilogy based in a setting with present-day technology, as he confirms above. The third trilogy would then be based in a sci-fi/futuristic type setting which sounds loving amazing in my opinion. If I'm remembering correctly, he also talked about how strength in Allomancy will continue to decrease over time and mistborns will become even more rare and eventually cease to exist. He also talked about new metals being discovered and new abilities.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Sonisi posted:

Just finished the book and really enjoyed it. There were some points that just seemed to drag on (by the end of it I was pretty over Kaladins childhood). Although I doubt it will end up this way I would love if it turned into the "good" way and "bad" way to try and save the world between Dalinar and Taravangian, please don't make it so that any one who does evil things for good turns out to really be evil all along Sadeas

Also on another note what is with the American cover art on so many fantasy/sci-fi novels looking like it just came out of the 80s? You can have perfectly good modern cover art on fantasy books. While the Australian (and European I am guessing) cover is not fantastic it is still a ton better than the one in the OP, I have noticed this with a number of books from the US.

The guy that did the cover art for Way of Kings is the same artist that did the cover art on several of the first fantasy novels Sanderson read as a kid. So Brandon has a big nostalgic hard-on for the guy, he did an enormous blog post about it. At least it's better than WoT cover art :gonk:

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

var1ety posted:

Does it count if Vin had the chance to meet him in the third book, but chose not to? Sanderson mentioned this in one of his chapter postmortems.

http://www.brandonsanderson.com/annotation/290/Mistborn-3-Chapter-Twenty-Seven

Yeah, Vin needs information so she first goes to see Hoid but gets a bad feeling and runs away before talking to him.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Haha what the gently caress

BrandSanderson
A note from @sleepinghour: "Found some Japanese fanart of @BrandSanderson's "Mistborn": http://bit.ly/hiXy30 "

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Mistborn doesn't have the world building or character depth that some epic fantasy series do like WoT, Martin's series or the Malazan series. But I think the plot is pretty tight and the action scenes are really well written. I also really enjoyed the magic systems in that series and I loved the ending. Mistborn is also a really easy read compared to some of the huge fantasy series out there, which for me is a plus.

Way of Kings on the other hand has a ton of poo poo going on, the world is incredibly rich. It was by far Sanderson's best work so far, outside of the WoT books. I guess my only complaint would be, when comparing it to other fantasy series, is that the characters aren't as complex as I'd expect from a great writer. Given time I think he can fix that. The thing that really excites me about Way of Kings is that I have a million questions after reading the book but it was still satisfying when I finished it. Sanderson is very good at creating stories that are resolved in one book but also fit into the series story arch.

Warbreaker and Elantris are ok, they are worth reading if you really like Sanderson's other stuff. I think Warbreaker was better than Elantris. Sanderson is planning sequels for both books.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

treeboy posted:

Regarding the one way trip theory, we know that the Hoid we keep seeing is the same character, so obviously he has some ability that is independent of location. Possibly they 'leapt' after him and are in fact stuck and therefore looking for him to figure out how to get back?

We also don't know the exact timeline. If it were Raoden (and i'm not convinced, I just thought it was an interesting theory) it could be Raoden twenty years after the events of Elantris. Also i can't find a source but I want to say that Brandon said we'd met some of the other characters in TWoK before. I'll see if i can confirm that or I'm just imagining it.

Maybe the Hoid we see in Way of Kings isn't the same Hoid we see in the other books. In Way of Kings he did say he stole the name.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

mcable posted:

The Stormlight Archives will not focus on the different worlds/shards, but Sanderson does have plans for a series that kind of ties all of that together. I believe it's called Dragonsteel though he won't start it until after the SA is done.

Sanderson has said that you don't have to have any knowledge of the different worlds / shards to enjoy his books. So yeah, stormlight archives is not going to be the series that connects all the shards but there will be hints. And given that it's a bigger series than any he's done before I think it's safe to assume we'll get more hints in it than any book he's done before.

I'm not sure that Dragonsteel is the book/series that he will connect all the shards but it's definitely a planned world he wants to write about. Actually I'm fairly certain Sanderson already wrote Dragonsteel as his thesis at BYU. It's in the BYU library and you can get them to send it to another library if you really want to read it. I read on Sanderson's forums some people that have done exactly that.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I liked Way of Kings a lot better than Mistborn. If you give Mistborn a B (a fair grade), I'd say Way of Kings is an A or A-.

Also for what it's worth I think the Mistborn trilogy as a whole is better than any one single book. The story arc is pretty solid, the characters develop, the magic gets cooler and in my opinion the ending was awesome.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

IRQ posted:

It's his weakest book so far, mostly because it's 99% world building, setup, and pointless flashbacks. When there's 2-3 more Stormlight books out it will be a solid recommendation though.

I thought it was his best book by far. Yes there is a lot of world building and setup but there is a contained storyline and the world building is pretty loving awesome

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Kreeblah posted:

In a word, yes. Seeing Mat pre-Band is just plain bizarre.

Seeing Mat pre-dagger is bizarre. He's a complete dick and not in the fun way that he is after being healed by the Aes Sedai.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

subx posted:

Surprisingly, with such an obvious "there's more!" ending, it's the one book I don't think he has said he is going to do a sequel to in the near future.

He actually has talked about doing another book set in the Warbreaker world, speculative title is Nightblood (the name of the talking sword).

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Clinton1011 posted:

For me it was after he got tortured by a pain dildo and a little girl asked to join in, he then decided the best way to save her from torturing him was to kick her in the face hard enough to shatter her jaw.

God I love talking about the Sword of Truth books. Terry Goodkind is the best.

Funny enough, although his books are absolute poo poo, the tv show they made based upon them was really entertaining.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

syphon posted:

The part that stuck out most for me was him being forced to live in some overly-exaggerated communist country. He was somehow able to free them from their evil socialist bonds by... building a statue? Something like that?

Yeah that is the book that fordan was describing a few posts up - Faith of the Fallen. Also happens to be the point where I stopped reading as well.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I'm a big Sanderson fan, I've read all of his books and enjoyed them all, except Elantris. The first Sanderson book I read was Mistborn book 1, after completing that I went on to Elantris and I couldn't finish it. A year or two later I tried to read it again and again I couldn't finish it. It's just not a very good book in my opinion. Read Mistborn or Way of Kings instead

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Cover for Words of Radiance: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/07/brandon-sanderson-words-of-radiance-cover-reveal-michael-whelan

Looks pretty cool.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

I finished WoR, wow it was good. I have a lot of random thoughts ...

Regarding Jasnah, At first I was shocked and thought she died but as I read I realized we hadn't learned what her other power was and that obviously she had used it to escape.

Fezz posted:

Rock spoilersWhen Rock is talking about the hot springs at the top of his mountains in the bar scene. It seems like they are the shard pools underneath the lake. Sort of like a layered drink. Now Rock's abilities may be from spending time in/near the shard pools/hot springs.

One other thing about Rock when he's telling the story of being at the hot springs I think the spirit he met was Hoid/Wit. Maybe that's the point where Hoid world jumped to Roshar?

Also it's super obvious that Eshonai is not dead. Earlier in stormform she considers jumping off a huge cliff and wondering if she could survive. Foreshadowing that she would get thrown off a huge cliff and then (probably) survive.

The Taravingian pov was probably the most interesting to me in the entire book. Learning about the diagram was very cool.

The epigraphs for part 4 of the book are a reply to the letter from the epigraphs in WoK. The first letter was Hoid writing to someone and I think maybe he was corresponding with Cultivation. Hoid appears to have known all the shards before they became shards but Sanderson has already said Hoid is not one of them. I can't wait for the Hoid origin book.

We still don't know anything about the sphere that Galivar left behind in WoK, I really hope we get some more backstory on him in book 3 but I suspect we will have to wait until book 5 which is supposed to be Dalinar's backstory. Also, if Szeth is book 3 and Dalinar book 5 who is book 4? Jasnah, Renarin, Adolin?

Streebs fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Mar 15, 2014

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

Speaking of language and dialogue, one point of interest was that Taln, the crazy herald, could speak perfect Alethi. Considering that he's been in hell dimension for thousands of years I found this interesting. There is no way the "Alethi" of back then is the same as it is now, so how does he know to speak in the modern dialect? Maybe I'm reading too much into this.

Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

treeboy posted:

i don't know how, but I'd bet they can communicate with anyone of any language. Otherwise they'd spend most of their time learning languages instead of preparing people to fight.

Whether this is because they speak an "Adamic" language kinda trope (a pure 'divine' language understandable by anyone) or simply a universal translator spren doesn't really matter i suppose.

You are probably right I just found it a bit odd because I think it was mentioned once or twice that he spoke without an accent. I could be remembering incorrectly though; I definitely have to re-read this to pick up on all the details.

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Streebs
Dec 6, 2003

RIP

team overhead smash posted:

That was good, when's the next one out?

2020. Yeah :(

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