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cheese posted:A friend of mine who likes a lot of the same books just finished and said he had mixed feelings. The action and word building was good, but he said it read sort of like a humorless Malazan Book of the Fallen. I love me an epic fantasy series but is it really that devoid of light hearted scenes? One of the best things about Malazan is that while some of the humor was a little on the corny 'he talks funny' side, it was amusing and timely enough to break up otherwise heavy storylines. Is that not the case here and if so, how do you see that impacting the series? Even Joel Ambercrombies First Law series, some of the darkest fantasy I've read, had the odd humorous exchange written in. I don't think I can do 8k pages devoid of comic relief. The main story is pretty serious, but there are interludes between each of the four main parts that contain some more light-hearted bits.
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Danith posted:I just finished the Way of Kings, and while I know the Brighteyes women keep their safehand covered, and touching someone with it is an intimate gesture I don't remember the book explaining anything about the meaning of the safehand. What is the purpose? Random cultural differences, intended to reinforce that this is a world apart from our own, and that societal norms are weird when viewed from the outside? My guess is he needed an excuse for Shallan to be able to carry around the broken soulcaster all the time.
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Kalas posted:Sazed's intro mentioned (from his perspective) that Shardplate would interfere with his Surgebinding. And yet, in one of Dalinar's visions he clearly sees a Radiant wearing plate do something very much like surge-flying.
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Kreeblah posted:Yeah, I just sent a PM to LooseChanj to try to get the thread title changed. I've already got some general info about Sanderson in the OP, but I'll just keep adding new books and such as they come out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Brian Sanderson hasn't written a drat thing, actually.
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Can we mark which book we're spoiling? I'm halfway through my first trek through Sanderson's collected works.
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Mahlertov Cocktail posted:Who do you think doesn't get cooler in Hero? (HoA)Sazed gets better right at the end of course, but he's a tedious, repetitious bore of ridiculous depression for 90% of the book.
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Thoguh posted:Regarding the end of the The Hero of Ages Having just finished it, I've got this fresh in my mind: There are three components to each god: mind, spirit, and body. Ruin's body was the atium. At the point of that fight, Vin+Mist is 2/3 of a god and Ruin+HisSpirit is 2/3. The other 1/3 of Preservation (his body, I think?) is busy powering allomancy and the atium is, as you say, used up. This means they cancel each other's powers out and neither can act. But if Ruin could get the atium it would be 3/3 vs 2/3 and he could do what he wants. So when Vin headbutts Ruin and they kill eachother, Sazed is able to take the spirit component of each god and become the joint mind of the new, reunited, 4/6 of a god.
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So, I finally finished my Sandersonathon. Well, except for Alcatraz. Anyone here tried those? How different is the style from his fantasy? Warbreaker was pretty dang good; I'm looking forward to sequels eventually.
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Silenced Parrot posted:I honestly don't think he ever will. He is an amazing person and really doesn't seem to be the type of person to force his views on people. That seems mostly the case for now, yeah. Read his essay on the gays, though. He says that while he intellectually respects their rights, he can't square that very well with the fact that he knows 100%, because of his religion, that it's in their best interest for him to vote against their right to equality. That seems a slippery slope to me.
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I actually think that if Sanderson's books were to be adapted into visual media, an animated series would probably be the best choice -- they're not quite grey and sexy enough to get the HBO treatment, like ASOIAF. They're a bit too complex for movies. And they'd be way too expensive to film for any network to do them live-action. An animated series with a target age range of, say, 15-20 seems to be just about the right thing. For Mistborn in particular, giving each book a 13 episode season should work quite well. Unfortunately, though, those types of shows are much less common in America than elsewhere (Japan, for instance).
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Democratic Pirate posted:Take the team behind Avatar: The Last Airbender and give them control over some of Sanderson's stuff. I would watch the poo poo out of this. I think they'd do a good job, though I don't think Nick would buy it without toning down the content in some parts. Really, I think Bones would be a fantastic choice. Maybe they could pioneer the idea of an animated series that is written and specifically produced with the idea of simultaneous release in both English and Japanese? They could put it on Adult Swim and Noitamina, with new episodes airing the same week! Probably not, but a man can dream.
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A Nice Boy posted:Don't forget about Warbreaker. It had some pretty clearly stated sex stuff, such as when the princess who has to marry the God King is simulating the sex night every night, moaning and bouncing on the bed. He even describes in detail how she builds, then kind of screams at the end or whatever, then stops. So, it's not like he's not acknowledging that sex and orgasms and such exist. He just chooses not to write about it all the time. Let me preface this by saying that I'm 100% on your guys' side about this: he shows it enough, and all that. But it's interesting to note that Warbreaker was the first book he wrote after he lost his V card (on his honeymoon, no less), and that it had the most explicit and close to on-screen sex yet.
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Cartoon Man posted:Chapter two is up. More good stuff. There's one of his standard lackluster attempts at humor in there, though. Oh well, nobody's perfect. I like where the plot is going and the new allomancy details are interesting.
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Does anyone know if this plot-hole that opened up in Hero of Ages due to information we've gotten since then has been addressed anywhere? Preservation's message to his creation was the repeated 16s: 16 allomantic metals, 1/16 of the population snaps in the mist. That 1/16 of those had worse snapping symtopms and became atium mistings was a major plot point at the end of the book, and I thought the ratio was because the new mistings were evenly divided among the 16 metals. However, Sanderson has since revealed that atium is not one of the set of 16 standard allomantic metals, but one of the 'god metals' (as we've just been discussing, there's chromium, cadmium, bendalloy, and nicrosil make up the extra four missing from the ones we already knew, minus god metals.) Maybe it was never stated definitively that the new mistings were evenly divided, and the 1/16 atium mistings were just extra special, rather than a even slice of the misting pie?
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ImpAtom posted:So I was reading Mistborn and reasonably enjoying it but... Long story short, he's mormon, and believes it enough that he thinks outlawing gay marriage is saving them from an eternity in hell. More here: http://brandonsanderson.com/article/51/EUOLogy-Dumbledores-Homosexuality Edit: turns out he's updated that post with a much more reasonable position since the last time I was there. I'm glad he's coming around. Jorenko fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Feb 18, 2012 |
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Bullio posted:Wait, so Alloy of Law is standalone? I was hoping to get more of Wax and Co. I loved that book. He's said he might do another standalone mistborn book, but whether it would focus on wax & co or some other group of characters or even another time period is undecided.
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Maytag posted:Star Wars has been a stale universe for over 15 years and Brandon shouldn't waste his time with it. Especially when he's already got his own sci-fi trilogy planned (in like 10 years, but still).
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Only a dozen or so can join the video chat at a time, but it's an "on air", so unlimited non-participants can watch.
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Mahlertov Cocktail posted:I think you mean two because nobody is going to find Hrathen uninteresting. I didn't really like him at all until his last 3 or 4 chapters.
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Do I remember hearing about Legion getting optioned for TV at some time recently? I hope so. Although if JC is anyone but John Goodman (a la Walter from Big Lebowski) I'll be sorely disappointed.
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Affi posted:Tobias is so Morgan Freeman. Holy poo poo. This warrants a reread.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Is The Emperor's Soul worth buying? Just took a work break and checked out his site and Sanderson said he thinks it might be his best writing yet which has me intrigued. You can read the prologue for free at Tor.com right now. Based on that much, I'm pretty excited to dig into the rest.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Are his novellas connected to his overworld? Because the Imperial Fool is totally Hoid Not all of them. Obviously Legion is on Earth. But Emperor's Soul is -- it's actually on another corner of the same planet as Elantris.
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The Glumslinger posted:Forget about another reread for a while, I just started to read TWOT series Heh, so did I. I'm up to book 9, and I don't think I'll be done by the time Rithmatist hits. The first two books were good, if pretty formulaic, but three was excellent, and the pressure never lets up after that.
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Nitpicking time! By the scale in that map, the UIA is 1200 miles across. The USA is around 3000 miles wide. It doesn't even make any sense if you consider the smaller squares as 50 miles each. Edit: Loved the book, though. The plot twists were pretty easy to anticipate, but it's a great example of (relatively standard) YA fantasy, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
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It's almost done!https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson posted:Getting really close to finishing Words of Radiance. I might right the ending tonight, as a matter of fact, depending on how late I stay up.
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Grundulum posted:At least, that's how it works until he starts writing the (multiple?) series where the Cosmere is a major factor. Can't look right now, but there was definitely at least one series that would bridge the multiple worlds and really lay bare some of the underlying cosmology. Way of Kings laid out so many hints that it's hard to imagine this won't be a major factor in Stormlight down the line.
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Dravs posted:just finished, that was really good, enjoyed it a lot. I know people are happy that finally Sanderson has written a book without a clearly defined set of laws to the magic system, however I really want him to explain it later in the series. Prof is CLEARLY Morgan Freeman. I couldn't not hear his voice every time the man spoke. Unknowns for everyone else, though. Well, maybe a couple of the epics could be big names, I guess.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Has Sanderson said yet if steelheart exists in the same cosmere as the rest of his books? I know two of the worlds were as of yet unidentified. It does not; none of his stories set on any version of earth are cosmere.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Read the new book. Do you know the difference between schizophrenia and multiple personalities disorder? This brings up a cool thought though: a schizophrenic illusionist epic. Maybe they THINK they're a gifter for some other power. But they only "gift" to their projections?
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Are we allowed to discuss the stories? Because holy balls. Good stuff.
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Fezz posted:Yeah, it was great. Engaging action, new answers as well as new questions. The government reminds me of Twoflower's home in the Discworld books. Obviously taken from the same real world source Do we know which book the Sixth is from? I haven't heard anything about that one, but it sounds like a pretty interesting setting. All the others were pretty amazeballs, especially Lift. Can't bloody wait for WoR.
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Sherringford posted:I think Sanderson's sense of humor can be...a bit off most of the times, but (in my opinion at least) he's really good at writing funny characters who are openly dickish. For example, Lightsong in Warbreaker seems genuinely amusing when trying to be funny. Like he wasn't so much trying to be funny as he was just going on about whatever came to his head because he very clearly didn't care, and that seemed funnier than...you know, metaphors. That was one thing about both the Shadows excerpt and Lift: I think he's getting a lot better at this. There were a few purposefully lame things with Wayne of course, but nothing as tone-deaf as has been the norm for him before, and some really good moments, too. I am optimistic.
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@BrandSanderson posted:With Firefight first draft done, Peter is doing a quick pass edit for me. That gives me a few days free time. Time for the Legion sequel. Never change, Brandon.
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Shakugan posted:I'm not saying it wasn't obvious that it was coming at some point, but rather that it happened in a pretty poor way. We go from "OMG Kaladin, you're the one I've been looking for" to "Dalinar the Radiant" in 5 seconds flat. I think Stormfather should have said no to Dalinar, at least for now. I think it would have made for better development if he had formed the bond in some moment of need rather than just say the words, become radiant wham bam thankyou ma'am. It was so freaking anime. There were multiple moments when someone was getting a beatdown, but then stood back up with a burst of energy, and my brain just belts out, "DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY!"
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syphon posted:Has it been explained where the root of (WoR spoiler about Taravangian) his odd affliction is? So far, we've only been told about Surge Binding as a magic system in addition to something called 'old magic'. Has there been any more in-depth explanation? It's the old magic. Several characters have mentioned it briefly. A mysterious woman called the night watcher or night mother will grant you any boon you ask, but always with some ironic downside. She is likely to be a spren of some kind, maybe Cultivation's analog to the stormfather. This is also why Dalinar can't remember his wife. Edit: wiki link http://coppermind.net/wiki/Nightwatcher Jorenko fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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mossyfisk posted:If you assume that the KR orders had a hierarchical system, it makes a lot of sense. It's not just saying the words and having to stick by them, it's understanding them and really believing them. Some members have sworn the first, some the first two, but only a few would be able to say the third and really mean it. It was explicitly stated that all orders share the first ideal, then do their own thing for the rest. Some orders have more ideals of their own that are unique, and some (like the Lightweavers, as Pattern told Shallan) do something completely different (tell deep personal truths, in this case). For my part I think Kaladin really did say the third. There's no way he'd get such a huge powerup from just restating the second. I think that each order's ideals will be specialized, so it makes sense for the Windrunners' to focus on protection as a theme.
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Habibi posted:Except it's still an incredibly dumb delineation. If those are separate oaths, then the WR ideals have a loophole that somehow allow Kaladin to not worry about protecting people he doesn't hate who can protect themselves, which would be a pretty stupid thing (given he has to protect people he hates even when they can protect themselves). There are more oaths left. Also, I don't think the spren are going to let you wiggle through a loophole that defies the spirit of the law.
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Hopeford posted:By the way, not sure if this thread is the best place for this, but I remember someone here recommending Promises of Blood as a book that was kinda Sandersonian. I finished it a few days ago, and while I liked it, I did have a few issues with it. I'll leave the most spoilerish stuff under the tag just to make sure, but I think the big thing is that it does the opposite of the "Sanderson Avalanche." I did like the magic system though, so there's that. This. And: the combination of Vlora being ignored and Ka-poel's muteness meant that the book failed the Bechdel test pretty hard. It was pretty disappointing when compared with the much more progressive epic fantasy we've been getting from many authors recently. But, like you, I still enjoyed it, particularly for the magic, and for Mihali. I think I'll be picking up the sequel, but maybe not til the ebook is on sale.
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nucleicmaxid posted:Then so do most comic book characters. Kaladin and Szeth had a swordfight while standing in mid-air and radiating visible auras of energy. An action scene doesn't get more anime than that. Not to say that I disliked it. It was awesome. But it quacks, and I call it a duck.
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