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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


morestuff posted:

He's also one of those "now that I have a daughter, I have realized…" guys

That actually probably is it, I think the constant WNBA potshots stopped around the time he started devoting big chunks of time to talking about his daughter's soccer team.

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Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008




Doesn't his college roommate have a podcast about food and golf? Didn't his wife write a blurb in his NFL picks column for years?

BWV
Feb 24, 2005



One point Magary made that I was trying to articulate earlier in the week was that Simmons is one of those people who as a result of their success thinks all their choices are justified and the cause of their success.


MourningView posted:

He was also already prone to lamenting how the "everyone is offended generation" or however he words it has ruined comedy so probably a good chance that rather than learning from the beating he's taking right now he gets super pissy and steers into that even more

I remember a few years ago when he got onto this and he'd ask every comedian on his show about it and all but Carola shut it down and were politely like "I dunno, you just gotta know your audience and be funny." I think because Bill was never actually funny and just said poo poo people didn't typically read in columns, he assumed that "saying poo poo" was the same as comedy. So when saying inappropriate poo poo was no longer championed as novel he just blamed people for being insensitive instead of realizing that making a 90s porn joke in 2010 wasn't actually funny to anyone but him and his friend Hench.

BWV
Feb 24, 2005



To turn the discussion to something more positive, Bomani's podcast (which is always excellent) has been even better these past weeks, and his latest that covers the richer history of racism in Nascar is incisive.

He also just went on Will Cain's show to dunk on him their too

https://twitter.com/Ryan_Cortes/sta...4507693056?s=19

BWV fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jun 24, 2020

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008


HIT IT VERY HARD


Will Cain’s last day too, before he heads to one of the Fox properties, which, of course he is

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



MourningView posted:

It still bubbles to the surface occasionally but he's definitely a lot less likely to go on a blatantly racist, homophobic or sexist tangent than he used to be (there is an old page 2 article linked in the Magary piece about why it's okay for Augusta to exclude women that basically boils down to "women are a huge drag and women's sports are only good if they give me a boner"). Clearly he has a little bit of a sense of what he's not supposed to say out loud now and has tried to change some, he just seems completely incapable of considering that viewpoints from people who are different from him or outside his immediate circle might be important or interesting.

He was also already prone to lamenting how the "everyone is offended generation" or however he words it has ruined comedy so probably a good chance that rather than learning from the beating he's taking right now he gets super pissy and steers into that even more

He hangs out with Adam Carolla, so not too surprising

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



when you are as notoriously thick-skinned as bill simmons, you can't imagine how people can possibly be offended

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



lmao imagine being as dumb as will caine and deciding that you need to Embrace Debate with bomani jones

also, this is still hilarious
https://twitter.com/HIGHNOONonESPN/...9197838336?s=20

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


R.D. Mangles posted:

lmao imagine being as dumb as will caine and deciding that you need to Embrace Debate with bomani jones

also, this is still hilarious
https://twitter.com/HIGHNOONonESPN/...9197838336?s=20

Lmao

E: I listened to the Bo/Will Caine thing and it is the radio equivalent of that one block LeBron had on Steph in the 16 finals.

MourningView fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jun 25, 2020

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008



Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/roybelly/status...1326680065?s=20

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


Suddenly a lot of Knot Experts in sports radio, who knew there were so many boy scouts out there

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

I mean, that's a loving noose. And even if you're gonna "well actually" that, you're ignoring how it's gonna appear at first glance to a black man who just called out racism in his profession.

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


habeasdorkus posted:

I mean, that's a loving noose. And even if you're gonna "well actually" that, you're ignoring how it's gonna appear at first glance to a black man who just called out racism in his profession.

I think the claim which I've seen floated was that the noose was always there and it just wasn't noticed before, which seems absurd.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Lockback posted:

I think the claim which I've seen floated was that the noose was always there and it just wasn't noticed before, which seems absurd.

The FBI did an investigation and it's apparently been there for like a year

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


Is this in every garage? Or it just so happened to be the only garage and Bubba Wallace just so happened to be assigned that garage?

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007

my name is john carter



morestuff posted:

The FBI did an investigation and it's apparently been there for like a year

nascar is disagreeing

https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/sta...194657786003462

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Mahoning posted:

Is this in every garage? Or it just so happened to be the only garage and Bubba Wallace just so happened to be assigned that garage?

Pretty much

https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1...0972689409?s=20

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/sta...7445380099?s=20

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


morestuff posted:

The FBI did an investigation and it's apparently been there for like a year

The noose at the end of the rope on the door wasn't present the last time Bubba was at Talladega, according to the report. Time has no meaning now, but that's nothing like a year.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Gerund posted:

The noose at the end of the rope on the door wasn't present the last time Bubba was at Talladega, according to the report. Time has no meaning now, but that's nothing like a year.

Yeah, my bad. "As early as last fall"

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

I been ballin' so damn hard I swear I think that I'm Coby


Also Bubba didn't even loving see it until after it was reported.

Some Nascar staffer noticed it reported it and NASCAR went through the proper steps.

Even if this was a coincidence, they did everything above board.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Dexo posted:

Also Bubba didn't even loving see it until after it was reported.

Some Nascar staffer noticed it reported it and NASCAR went through the proper steps.

Even if this was a coincidence, they did everything above board.

Absolutely, not meaning to imply anything else.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick



Nap Ghost

Lockback posted:

I think the claim which I've seen floated was that the noose was always there and it just wasn't noticed before, which seems absurd.

NASCAR usually only has 2 weekends at Talledega (End of April and October) so no one has permanent stalls or facilities, everyone gets randomly assigned stuff when it comes time for race weekend.

The October race is usually around the end of the racing season which doesn't really pick back up until around February. So combine end of season, with COVID really breaking out in the US in March and the April date being delayed to June, like its not really that hard to see that it went unnoticed for a while. (Especially considering that when the crew is in the garage, they tend to be focusing on car repair or tuning)

I think the 43 team member who saw it only noticed it finally because there was a rain delay and everyone was kind of forced to chill out and not work on the car.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


https://twitter.com/TrueHoop/status...0318883842?s=20

quote:

That’s where I got a weird call from an editor, upending all of our draft plans. Hey, we had a great idea. Whole new plan, and one that was not attending the draft and certainly not liveblogging it. What was going on? Nothing, he said. It took four or five phone calls to find out: Simmons did not want me to liveblog the draft. Simmons threatened not (or, depending who you asked, never) to write about the draft if I did. I emailed Simmons, asking if we could talk. He replied he didn’t think we needed to talk, we were fine, but “i didn't want to do my annual running diary if you were live blogging it from the exact same ‘watching it as it happens’ perspective, just because i feel like i've earned that territory over the past 6 years. but they say you'll do it from a different angle so i'm fine with that.”

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters


Interesting look at the other side of the ESPN/Grantland divide. That all pretty much tracks, though I don't think he's quite right about Obama. I mean I'm sure Simmons fought for it, but as I recall he had an interview with candidate Obama lined up that ESPN nixed.

Still though, remember the time Simmons got pissy at Jonah Keri for continuing to do baseball player trade value rankings after he left Grantland?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Oh man that only child metaphor works so well

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Some quality axe-grinding, there

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


For sure but who hasn't dumped on a dickhead co-worker

BWV
Feb 24, 2005



he's so heavy handed and really wringing it all out but I am absolutely into it.

"a foil turd, staining her dignity"

PotatoJudge
May 22, 2004

Tell me about the rabbits, George

With Spandex, UPROXX's wrestling site has been put on hold, possibly shut down forever because Brandon Stroud is possibly a rapist, for sure a giant piece of poo poo. Stroud was part of Progressive Boink and The Dugout with Jon Bois.

Bois posted this about him today: https://medium.com/@jonbois/this-co...nd-4386da55a152

Awful Announcing's coverage of it here: https://awfulannouncing.com/online-...don-stroud.html

hifi
Jul 25, 2012



what caused this? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...he-founder-ceo/

quote:

In the early days of PFT, we blended football news with attempts at humor. Some of those attempts at humor were offensive. I regret having made the comments, and I am sorry.

... etcetera

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


https://twitter.com/comradejep/stat...4196674560?s=20

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Early PFT had some humor and lines that was very much in that "holy poo poo this did not age well" vein. same with grantland, deadspin, etc.

Could well be that it wasn't any one specific thing and Florio's just getting ahead of it.


E: ^^^ oh

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


DJExile posted:

Early PFT had some humor and lines that was very much in that "holy poo poo this did not age well" vein. same with grantland, deadspin, etc.

Could well be that it wasn't any one specific thing and Florio's just getting ahead of it.


E: ^^^ oh

you hope that maybe people are getting out ahead of their reckoning but no, they’re usually just drawing attention to it

soggybagel
Aug 6, 2006
The official account of NFL Tackle Phil Loadholt.

Let's talk Football.

Well Clay Travis is locked into a PFT battle so I’m sure his lackeys are digging for things.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


I mean it is not a coincidence that the guy doing the exaggerated meathead racist football fan gimmick put PFT in his name.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


soggybagel posted:

Well Clay Travis is locked into a PFT battle so I’m sure his lackeys are digging for things.

physicians, heal thyselves

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008


HIT IT VERY HARD


MourningView posted:

I mean it is not a coincidence that the guy doing the exaggerated meathead racist football fan gimmick put PFT in his name.

when PFT commentator stared into the abyss, the abyss hired him

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

YOU'RE WELCOME

Nybble posted:

when PFT commentator stared into the abyss, the abyss hired him

And then everyone jumped to defend him as being different when in the end hes the exact same, but smart enough to know its wrong.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


https://mobile.twitter.com/Tamantha...066950179520515

black sports online (home of the longest article titles this side of an amc press release) is apparently a real lovely place to work and robert littal allegedly sexually harasses his employees

sure is a lovely day for gossipy self-made sports startups

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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007


Declan MacManus posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tamantha...066950179520515

black sports online (home of the longest article titles this side of an amc press release) is apparently a real lovely place to work and robert littal allegedly sexually harasses his employees

sure is a lovely day for gossipy self-made sports startups

Honest question: why do self-described black blogs have the longest, dumbest, most nonsense of article titles? Am I missing something? Is it just a cultural thing?

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