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Schremp Howard posted:Rovell did manage to own Clay Travis at least I refuse to believe Rovell came up with that on his own.
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what the gently caress kind of a name is Clay Travis?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:what the gently caress kind of a name is Clay Travis? A peak white one Edit: topped only by Bodie
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I hate that clay travis is a titans fan.
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General Dog posted:At the end of the day they’re not really going to require much legal protection to say “Trump bad” or “Biden bad” or “Derek Jeter is a fat stupid bitch”. I doubt we’re going to see them actually breaking stories. The new trend is right-wing dipshits suing publications for things that are legally protected. It's not about winning money, it's about making them fight an expensive legal battle. Just look at what Devin Nunes is doing.
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iwentdoodie posted:A peak white one 
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Double posting because I am a Content Generator
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:what the gently caress kind of a name is Clay Travis? iwentdoodie posted:A peak white one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38
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Nah it used to be good. Now its every chuds kid under 7 or 8.
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I went to college with a Clayton Armisted III and he was the whitest dude I've ever met. Straight up plaid shorts and everything.
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MourningView posted:It's definitely coming back, they have all been dropping hints about it on Twitter for weeks now. Just a matter of where. Wonder if Holly and Ryan's sbnation contracts are up soon? Fullcast is back and just on the old RSS feed
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here’s a link to the new fullcast: https://overcast.fm/+MkCeaP9UY the audio quality is even worse than before
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Niwrad posted:The new trend is right-wing dipshits suing publications for things that are legally protected. It's not about winning money, it's about making them fight an expensive legal battle. Just look at what Devin Nunes is doing. even ignoring stuff like that, it would be absolutely insane for a group of that size to not have money allocated for insurance and attorneys
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The Deadspin folks have talked about how much it would take to set up a new Deadspin before. I think it was Barry Petchesky said it was somewhere in the $10-15m range last November winter on Hang Up And Listen. That seems like a lot, but if you're figuring pay and benefits for a score of writers and editors, plus tech/support staff, plus office space, plus equipment, plus licenses (e.g. Getty images), and wanting to have a couple years funding so you don't have to worry about crashing after six months.... Otoh, now their costs might be less since they don't have to worry about renting office space, and everyone is using their home computers/devices... and as they're a worker owned business they have access to the books in a way they didn't before. Speaking of that, I wonder how their corporate regs will be set out. There aren't a lot of employee owned businesses and most of them are fairly small. The only one of any appreciable size I can think of off the top of my head is Harpoon Brewery, which has about 300 employees.
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So does the Fullcast belong to the hosts now? Did Vox release whatever ownership they may have had?
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General Dog posted:So does the Fullcast belong to the hosts now? Did Vox release whatever ownership they may have had? I’m using Overcast and it gives the information as a group called Moon Crew LLC, publishing/hosted by Art19.com and “part of Learfield IMG College Network” per the web link. In true Fullcast fashion it pulled the old album art from SBNation.
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harperdc posted:I’m using Overcast and it gives the information as a group called Moon Crew LLC, publishing/hosted by Art19.com and “part of Learfield IMG College Network” per the web link. Ah okay. I’m actually getting new album art, with the Gadsden Flag snake in a space suit on the Moon.
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harperdc posted:I’m using Overcast and it gives the information as a group called Moon Crew LLC, publishing/hosted by Art19.com and “part of Learfield IMG College Network” per the web link. Would you say they... JUST TOOK THOSE OLD RECORDS OFF THE SHELF Edit for content: "Moon Crew LLC" is, if I recall correctly, the name of the company the exiles made to write and divvy up the proceeds of the Sinful Seven book (which is delightful) so I think this is more technically an extension of that with Ryan and Holly able to tag on despite still being technically employed by Banner Society.
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harperdc posted:I’m using Overcast and it gives the information as a group called Moon Crew LLC, publishing/hosted by Art19.com and “part of Learfield IMG College Network” per the web link. i love how they decided to name their LLC either after the Michigan-Northwestern game from a few years back or the *cocks gun* MOON'S HAUNTED bit
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Troy Queef posted:i love how they decided to name their LLC either after the Michigan-Northwestern game from a few years back or the *cocks gun* MOON'S HAUNTED bit Based on the episode content it’s the latter.
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They have a fairly long standing obsession with the early space program and the moon I don't think it has anything to do with that game
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The same company that owns Deadspin also owns sites like Kotaku which is now having a bunch of video people fired, despite the company trying to push more video over text https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1291836827071111168
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General Dog posted:Ah okay. I’m actually getting new album art, with the Gadsden Flag snake in a space suit on the Moon. On the podcast episode listing page it had the old art but the individual episode has new art yes. Also based on what Bomani Jones said on the interview with LeBatard on South Beach Sessions, I have a wild theory that Bomani and Spencer are working on something related to college football. Would also explain why Bo could hop to and write about the PAC-12 boycotting so quickly.
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habeasdorkus posted:The Deadspin folks have talked about how much it would take to set up a new Deadspin before. I think it was Barry Petchesky said it was somewhere in the $10-15m range last November winter on Hang Up And Listen. That seems like a lot, but if you're figuring pay and benefits for a score of writers and editors, plus tech/support staff, plus office space, plus equipment, plus licenses (e.g. Getty images), and wanting to have a couple years funding so you don't have to worry about crashing after six months.... that number sounds a whole lot more realistic, even without office overhead
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According to an interview with Maitreyi Anantharaman, they need much less than a million subscribers, because they aren't trying to impress investors. That could mean a lot of things, though. https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/defector-deadspin-interview.html
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correct. The 10-15M number mentioned a few posts ago isn't meant to attract VC money, it's the realistic minimum needed to properly staff the business to support an editorial team of that size, build and maintain a functioning website, and pay everyone market value with benefits without cutting corners. Obviously quick and dirty bar napkin math just to illustrate a point, but that's 150,000 basic tier subscribers just to hit the 10m mark, which is almost certainly not enough money to make the business work unless the masthead writers are cool pocketing less than 50k each without benefits, which I sincerely doubt. Even if they are, it's not going to be labor of love salaries for everyone else needed to make a business function. Getting and maintaining 150k subscribers is probably an extremely lofty goal. There is a reason why subscription-only business models generally don't work in media. And even if they took on some ads to supplement it, the audience is now capped at however many subscribers they get vs the 17 million unique viewers the site had right before the resignations... and then they'd need to add a sales and ad ops team, but wouldn't be able to command nearly as much $ for that ad space. ironically, they are going to run into every single problem outlined here https://deadspin.com/lets-do-the-math-on-the-athletic-1836999585 THE MACHO MAN fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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the sad thing is that the only real "sports" based subscription models that are working outside of the Athletic are some of the pro wrestling sites But even then the 2 most successful ones started out as subscription newsletters from the 80s and 90s and they managed to transition their cult followings from print to digital distribution and podcasting
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I think they should charge more when they offer a month-to-month. Right now access is priced at $6 a month. This seems so cheap compared to magazine and newspaper subscriptions pre-internet, but subscription prices for everything are so low these days and also everyone thinks that because you're not getting a physical thing delivered to your house it's not worth as much. Prices of everything have gone down while cost of living has gone up. Also RIP Kotaku. Imagine doing a worse job taking over a company.
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Lockback posted:What happened to Kotaku? Nothing really extremely dramatic, they had a bunch of their more notable writers leave earlier in the year. They hired up some new once, and just recently G/O media gutted their video producers across all the sites. Dexo fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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Lockback posted:What happened to Kotaku? Laid off almost all of their video staff and I think a few more writers, set up a truly awful new site design.
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Dexo posted:Nothing really extremely dramatic, they had a bunch of their more notable writers leave earlier in the year. They hired up some new once, and just recently G/O media gutted their video producers across all the sites. she thinks kwame used to be her backup center
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DeimosRising posted:she thinks kwame used to be her backup center what?
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Dexo posted:what? that was supposed to be a response to your post in the other thread lol
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Timby posted:Laid off almost all of their video staff and I think a few more writers, set up a truly awful new site design. it’s cool how website design has only gotten worse since 2005
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Declan MacManus posted:it’s cool how website design has only gotten worse since 2005 Infinite scrolling to the heat death of the universe
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