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The broken bones posted:I miss Dick Schaap I met Dick Schaap at a library or bookstore or something like that sort of event that like three people showed up for and he was basically the coolest dude ever, shot the poo poo about sports for a couple hours and even gave me his contact info to keep in touch. (This was right around when ESPN was doing the SportsCentury top athletes of the century thing and Dick agreed with me that based on the way it was laid out that Bo Jackson really should have been number 1.) I corresponded with him a few times but I was a dumb busy kid and didn't really realize how big of a contact it was, and then he passed away pretty suddenly about a year later. Moral of the story is that Dick Schaap really owned.  eta: He was also a very intelligent and non-reactionary dude about sports. I watched that show every loving Sunday even though it had Lupica and Albom. oldfan fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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I still think Karch Kiraly was snubbed on that dumb list, get the horses off of there  That's an awesome story though, Schaap was great.
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Grittybeard posted:I still think Karch Kiraly was snubbed on that dumb list, get the horses off of there Also, that whole countdown series was great.
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quote:Cowherd has been popping up on ESPN’s Mike & Mike radio show frequently – the rumor is M&M ratings have sagged, and the suits would like the show to have stronger opinions, something I discussed with one of the hosts on a podcast – and last week ESPN announced Cowherd will be part of College Football Live Tuesdays with Kirk Herbstreit. Ah so they want the show to be more jam-packed with those two idiots yelling over eachother (I assume "stronger" is codeword for "louder"). Revolutionary!
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Jul 2, 2013 13:02
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Maybe we'll get lucky and the modern day equivalent of Jim Everett trying to kick Jim Rome's rear end will happen on Cowherd's show. And this time the athlete in question will succeed.
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This got a laugh out of me:NBC Sports posted:The final is on ESPN. RT @BillSimmons "Radwanska! Bartoli!!!!! It's the Wimbledon Women's Finals on NBC!" As did Part III of the Tim Tebow Chronicles, which is sharing secrets with us all: quote:Education is currency. That is how the NCAA operates.
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Jul 2, 2013 20:13
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Zeeman posted:As did Part III of the Tim Tebow Chronicles, which is sharing secrets with us all: This whole series has been utterly sublime, I want a movie version.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Maybe we'll get lucky and the modern day equivalent of Jim Everett trying to kick Jim Rome's rear end will happen on Cowherd's show. And this time the athlete in question will succeed. This brings up an interesting point. Rome seemed to be the first of those sort of "troll"-first take types. But I sense something a little different out of him versus say, Colin Cowherd. Recently his interviews have been rather good, and when he's not obsessively playing sound bites, his program is "listenable". I've yet to really see that out of Cowherd.
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FuzzySkinner posted:This brings up an interesting point. The thing with Rome is that over the years, he mellowed out and matured as a person and interviewer. The show mellowed accordingly. It still has some attitude, but it comes from a place of general common-sense correctness. An argument might not be as professional and might be a little too cute, but the argument is trying to legitimately make a point. With the interviews, Rome does ask good questions, maintains a good flow to an interview (gets the subject to open up, lets them flesh out a story, moves on at a natural pace), and has grown far more respectful over the years. His interviews with Ernie Harwell, for example, were always excellent. With Cowherd, his entire show is simply designed to take the obviously wrong side of an issue, or an intentionally dumb position, as a schtick. His whole thing is designed to be "controversial!" because that apparently gets the kind of attention ESPN is looking for. Cowherd is only there to stupidly poo poo on something, then loudly defend that pointless thing he just said. Cowherd is Skip Bayless over more hours of programming.
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Zeeman posted:This got a laugh out of me: What a fantastic burn, good job NBC Sports Note that that is the one thing NBC Sports has done well this decade
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I would also say that even during his trolliest times, Rome knew when he hosed up and acted accordingly. Cowherd is frequently defiant when people call him on his stupidity. As if it's some sort of badge of honor to make fun of somebody for dying.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I would also say that even during his trolliest times, Rome knew when he hosed up and acted accordingly. Cowherd is frequently defiant when people call him on his stupidity. As if it's some sort of badge of honor to make fun of somebody for dying.
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Zeeman posted:As did Part III of the Tim Tebow Chronicles, which is sharing secrets with us all: Just finished this. Every bit of it is so perfect. I can't wait until they travel through Quebec -- you know Bois will pull out the really crazy poo poo there.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Cowherd is frequently defiant when people call him on his stupidity. http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2006/03/espns-colin-cowherd-borrows-m-zone.html http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2006/03/colin-cowherditsomewhereelsefirst.html http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2011/07/colin-cowherds-revisionist-history.html And when people call him on his plagiarism.
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Jul 3, 2013 06:12
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I definitely need a shirt that says Shut Up and Jam I Require Silence Whilst Jamming
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Jim Rome's show is much more bearable than Cowherd but the problem is he uses so many inside jokes and references that it's hard to follow sometimes. Apparently not knowing who "Eddie from SoCal" is really puts a damper on things. He definitely does have great interview skills though, as others have pointed out. I assume Cowherd never apologized for his completely lovely (and wrong) take on Sean Taylor's death either? haljordan fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jul 3, 2013 |
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I never got what the gently caress Colin Cowherd's deal was. Like why he is such an rear end in a top hat. Then last week on his show (which I caught 2 minutes of before turning it off), he said "Talk show hosts talk about topics, talk show hosts like... Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and myself" Cowherd clearly considers himself of the Rush Limbaugh of sports radio, and it's a huge bummer that espn is throwing their weight behind him.
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Jul 3, 2013 14:56
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Jim Rome is loving awful; you people are crazy. I mean Cowherd is worse, but "better than Cowherd" is like the lowest bar imaginable.
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haljordan posted:I assume Cowherd never apologized for his completely lovely (and wrong) take on Sean Taylor's death either? Here, have some lovely words from Those Guys Have All the Fun: Inside the World of ESPN : Cowherd posted:“Now with the Sean Taylor thing, my superior, Mo Davenport, an African American, listened to it and had no problem with it. A lot of it was turned into a racial issue. ‘Insensitive.’ And I would say it again. Sean Taylor came out of the University of Miami with a reputation. I really leaned on African American journalists — Stephen A. Smith, Michael Wilbon — who were critical of him. This is a guy who had an SUV riddled with bullets several years earlier. His best friend told him, ‘Stay out of Miami.’ If you listen to my commentary and go to the Internet, it was warranted, it was reasonable, and yes, it could have been wrong. But I’m not in the business of reviewing everything before I talk about it. I’m in talk radio. A story breaks, I need an opinion. I’m not ESPN News. That link leads to some Washington Post blog where you can relive his original bullshit if you like. I sort of hate you for asking that and also myself for looking it up.
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I get he has 3 hours to fill every day, but goddamn he seems to revel in the fact that he's a complete and utter shithead. "That's my Colin tenor." Eat. A. Dick.
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Oh well, one black guy at ESPN listened to it, that is good enough for me. How could I have ever thought it was inappropriate?
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Ribsauce posted:Oh well, one black guy at ESPN listened to it, that is good enough for me. How could I have ever thought it was inappropriate? He doesn't even say that. "Leaned on" probably just means "I retroactively decided that because they said similar things in the past my tone was justified." You have to be at least a little narcissistic to get into journalism, but top radio guys always seem to have major personality disorders.
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The Prisoner posted:Cowherd never did apologize for what he said about Eddie Guerrero, right? He sorta did, but it was one one of those apologies where he mentioned he was being forced to do it, and that he thought it was ridiculous in the process. So it meant gently caress all.
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The thing I'm sort of wondering about Cowherd's longevity is this. Where are his fans/supporters? I know Dan Patrick he was able to survive the move away from "the mothership" because he had a decent following. Rome? Say what you will about the guy, but he does have "Clones" that seem to follow him around everywhere he goes. If he were to get fired tommorow, would anyone event want to remotely pick him up?
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Fox seems to delight in taking other TV networks' castoffs. I'm sure they'd give him a job.
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He's a name so I guess some podunk station in Iowa would pick him up. He's loving ESPN garbage though, Rome atleast has gems like the pet holocaust and bum stealing the bread out of the mouth of duck bits that are entertaining. What does Cowherd bring to the table? Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers nonsense. Atleast that's what I heard when I listened to him seven years ago.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Fox seems to delight in taking other TV networks' castoffs. I'm sure they'd give him a job. Max Kellerman crashed and burned on Fox. He went to HBO for a while as a boxing commentator and now he's come back to ESPN. As a boxing commentator.
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Kellerman didn't have a successful talk show before going to Fox, though. Host of a fake sportswriter judging gameshow isn't the same as doing a 3 hr broadcast of some kind.
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The broken bones posted:Max Kellerman crashed and burned on Fox. He went to HBO for a while as a boxing commentator and now he's come back to ESPN. As a boxing commentator. Yeah can Cowherd do this? As one of the few boxing fans around I can confirm that Kellerman is still on HBO, I actually think he's generally pretty decent in Larry Merchant's old role. I don't really remember how terrible he was on whatever that show was on ESPN, I'd imagine pretty awful though just because that show should never have made it to the air.
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Badfinger posted:Kellerman didn't have a successful talk show before going to Fox, though. Host of a fake sportswriter judging gameshow isn't the same as doing a 3 hr broadcast of some kind. Don't forget his less successful spinoff on whatever failed sports channel it was on. Kellerman is great in the boxing enviroment, I heard he trolls Laker fans so that's a plus.
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Parlett316 posted:I heard he trolls Laker fans so that's a plus. He's a massive Laker homer, which is funny because he hasn't really been out here that long. His show still manages to be more tolerable than most sports radio though because he at least is self aware enough to have a sense of humor about himself.
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Kellerman's Fox show was doomed simply because it was Around the Horn in everything but name. I'll never forget his appearance in the last Rocky movie where he was legitimately shocked he was calling a Rocky fight. Also he's a massive Yankees homer who rooted for the Sox over the Mets in 1986.
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I thought Kellerman's Fox show was just him and Michael Holley doing a PTI kind of thing, and while neither were bad on Around the Horn, they really couldn't carry a show themselves.
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Kalli posted:I thought Kellerman's Fox show was just him and Michael Holley doing a PTI kind of thing, and while neither were bad on Around the Horn, they really couldn't carry a show themselves. It also had the disembodied voice from Around the Horn.
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Kalli posted:I thought Kellerman's Fox show was just him and Michael Holley doing a PTI kind of thing, and while neither were bad on Around the Horn, they really couldn't carry a show themselves. Around the Horn, that's what I couldn't remember. I don't think I've ever been able to stomach more than five minutes of that show at once. Wiki tells me his Fox show was going on during the time when his brother was murdered, I'd be tempted to sort of give him a break for being lovely on air around then personally.
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Grittybeard posted:Around the Horn, that's what I couldn't remember. I don't think I've ever been able to stomach more than five minutes of that show at once.
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Kellerman's radio show on ESPN NY was really good, but I haven't heard his LA show. I can't really stand Marcellus Wiley so that might have something to do with it.
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Marcellus seems like a very likable dude but he is not very good at talking on the radio.
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Ace Jameson posted:Kellerman's radio show on ESPN NY was really good, but I haven't heard his LA show. I can't really stand Marcellus Wiley so that might have something to do with it. This is possibly my favorite memory of Kellerman's NY show (though this isn't the version of the bit I heard). http://lundberg.me/2009/11/27/schedule-a-game-against-the-new-york-knicks/
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The Prisoner posted:It's gotten infinitely better (but still not really any good) now that Mariotti isn't on it, but Plaschke is still around and Woody Paige is pretty drat stupid-but-entertaining. Reali is a great fit for that format, though. Reali can do around the horn and the stat guy and that's really it. He plays the goofy game show host exceptionally well, but you'd never try to give him a serious tv show. Also, Dan Patrick could survive leaving ESPN because he's Dan Patrick. He's one of the guys who put Sportscenter on the map. I could never see Cowherd doing anything remotely successful outside of ESPN. I just don't think he has the base to survive.
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