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Nate Silver is the one person you are allowed to tell "stick to sports"
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Apr 17, 2018 19:40
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ElwoodCuse posted:Nate Silver is the one person you are allowed to tell "stick to sports" His sports opinions are terrible though?
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Apr 17, 2018 19:46
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Yeah, Nate Silver went to poo poo when he left Baseball Prospectus to focus on elections (admittedly, BP fell to pieces after that, too; PECOTA is completely worthless now). We're post-Silver-failure, too, after 2016, so I figure 538 is getting downsized significantly.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:51
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I think Silver is an obnoxious dweeb but as far as the actual election went he was a lot closer to being right than just about anyone else. He hosed up the primary pretty badly but that was because he ignored the numbers and bought into The Party Decides too much.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:55
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Yeah how can you forget Nate Silver getting hammered by everyone leading up to the election for giving Trump too much of a likelihood to win the Presidency? Like, he was the one dude that was like "Guys, this is not as much of a done deal as you think".
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Apr 17, 2018 20:05
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National polls were correct. Also silver said trump had a substantial chance to win.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:06
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Yeah everybody poo poo on Nate after the general because he was the face of "data", but he was giving Trump a far bigger chance than most of his peers, like Sam "if Trump wins, I'll eat a bug" Wang.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:30
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Yeah he had Trump at like 30% if I remember correct. Laugh at the people who had Hillary at 99.9%. In fact, I remember people giving him poo poo saying he was only keeping it close because of pageviews.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:34
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"Shook-rear end Nate" they called him. By the end of the night he was the media's least shook man.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:37
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Hold your head high nate - you were also wrong but in a marginally less wrong way.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:41
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Matt Lindland posted:Hold your head high nate - you were also wrong but in a marginally less wrong way. 30% chance(or whatever it was) is not an outlandish impossible amount to have occur
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Apr 17, 2018 21:22
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Dexo posted:30% chance(or whatever it was) is not an outlandish impossible amount to have occur Plus its not like Trump's win was fait accompli. He needed a series of things to break exactly his way and still pull a win with a minority of voters and he did. Its how the elections are setup, but it was an unlikely win, just not the 99% Hillary win some pundits were talking about. Silver was right on with that. He did mess up the primary stuff though.
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Apr 17, 2018 21:27
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Cut him some slack, it ain't easy being gay but ethnically straight in a straight but ethnically gay man's world.
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Apr 17, 2018 21:39
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General Dog posted:Cut him some slack, it ain't easy being gay but ethnically straight in a straight but ethnically gay man's world. what the gently caress is this, and did Silver actually say this
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Apr 17, 2018 23:16
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Do you mean culturally straight/gay because what on earth is ethnically straight vs ethnically gay?
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Apr 17, 2018 23:44
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Troy Queef posted:what the gently caress is this, and did Silver actually say this http://gawker.com/5969477/sexually-gay-but-ethnically-straight-nate-silver-almost-gets-it-right-again
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Apr 18, 2018 00:09
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Another Awful Announcing article ruined because Andrew Bucholtz clearly doesn't know when to shut the gently caress up
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Apr 19, 2018 23:31
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It's not really anything that's not been discussed around here before but Jay Bilas continually does a very good job of making GBS threads on the sham that is the NCAA and it always seems to be an afterthought on the mess that is ESPN's website. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23325335/commission-gets-wrong-not-addressing-ncaa-rules-player-compensation
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Apr 27, 2018 06:12
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Saucer Crab posted:It's not really anything that's not been discussed around here before but Jay Bilas continually does a very good job of making GBS threads on the sham that is the NCAA and it always seems to be an afterthought on the mess that is ESPN's website.
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Apr 29, 2018 01:59
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Hell yeah Nate Silver is gay Good At statYstics (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 29, 2018 05:41
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Did you guys know Bill James wrote a book about serial killers? Found it at a used bookstore and it's a weird ride. Then again I like his style of writing.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:59
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Niwrad posted:Did you guys know Bill James wrote a book about serial killers? Found it at a used bookstore and it's a weird ride. Then again I like his style of writing. Because of his name being on the cover, I borrowed it from the local library. It's awful. The more I read, the more I felt like James was very selective in choosing bits and pieces from stories to fit his narrative. I did look up a couple of the contemporary stories and in one of the cases he highlighted, it was something like James saying the family was killed in the middle of the night because that was his killer's M.O. Most stories, including those from nearer the source of the crime, said it happened in early daylight because the guy was out feeding his chickens (or something similar). His naming of a suspect at the end made absolutely no sense. It's not backed up by anything but a hunch. The Villisca area slayings have been suggested as being connected. There's just no way that there was one person doing this nationwide, coast to coast.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:14
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Because of his name being on the cover, I borrowed it from the local library. I think you're talking about a different Bill James serial killer book but the other more general one that niwrad is talking about is weird and lovely too.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:18
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MourningView posted:I think you're talking about a different Bill James serial killer book but the other more general one that niwrad is talking about is weird and lovely too. Yeah, I confused them. There's the general one you're talking about, which I haven't read. The one I'm talking about is The Man From the Train.
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Apr 30, 2018 04:35
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To be fair, before this were were focusing on "killing average" and now it's "lives ruined percentage", sure the book was a miss but we really changed the way we evaluate serial killers.
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Apr 30, 2018 05:35
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Like, Waited Lives Ruined+ (wLR+) was groundbreaking at the time.
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Apr 30, 2018 05:36
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The other Bill James book is about popular crimes and contains a strong contender for most out of touch statement I have ever seen when he declares that "Michael Jackson was never at any point in his life one of the 100 most famous people in the world." I do remember mostly enjoying that book but it's been years.
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Apr 30, 2018 14:30
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https://twitter.com/thewilderthings/status/990954518765621252?s=21 https://twitter.com/thewilderthings/status/990954826044526593?s=21
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Apr 30, 2018 15:08
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fast cars loose anus posted:The other Bill James book is about popular crimes and contains a strong contender for most out of touch statement I have ever seen when he declares that "Michael Jackson was never at any point in his life one of the 100 most famous people in the world." I do remember mostly enjoying that book but it's been years. I mean, his recent stuff on Twitter has confirmed it, but Bill's heterodoxy is mostly just contrarianism more than anything deeper. Henchman of Santa posted:https://twitter.com/thewilderthings/status/990954518765621252?s=21 https://twitter.com/emmabaccellieri/status/990958605011734531 Is Sports Illustrated the new The Athletic? My column:
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Apr 30, 2018 15:21
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If SI is finding ways to pay people who make good content then that’s great
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Apr 30, 2018 15:23
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Henchman of Santa posted:If SI is finding ways to pay people who make good content then that’s great Yeah I've generally liked her baseball articles when I come across them. Good for her/SI (hopefully). e: meaning Emma, I don't remember Wilder off the top of my head but I'm sure I've seen her stuff too. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Apr 30, 2018 15:29
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Grittybeard posted:Yeah I've generally liked her baseball articles when I come across them. Good for her/SI (hopefully). I only know Charlotte for her recurring feature of "Is it sports?".
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Apr 30, 2018 16:03
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Emma always seemed so out of place on Deadspin since none of her articles were gimmicky bullshit.
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Apr 30, 2018 16:05
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Kibner posted:I only know Charlotte for her recurring feature of "Is it sports?". She also likes to write silly Wide World of Sports type stories about things like lobster boat racing. Her twitter is a pro follow.
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Apr 30, 2018 16:07
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fast cars loose anus posted:The other Bill James book is about popular crimes and contains a strong contender for most out of touch statement I have ever seen when he declares that "Michael Jackson was never at any point in his life one of the 100 most famous people in the world." I do remember mostly enjoying that book but it's been years. I bought this for $1 at a Half Price Books and never read it for fear of it making me dislike Bill James.
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Apr 30, 2018 16:49
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Disliking Bill James is the correct moral stance, he's a turd
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Apr 30, 2018 17:33
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Basticle posted:Emma always seemed so out of place on Deadspin since none of her articles were gimmicky bullshit. Yeah, I was really happy when she got promoted to full-time from weekends, because so much of her writing stems from a genuine love of the game (baseball in particular); she was a real breath of fresh air from the Petchesky / Redford types. Not surprised to see her go, though, especially since it was said that Gizmodo was told by Univision to start cutting staff heavily. Now, bring back the goddamn staff photographers, SI.
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Apr 30, 2018 17:48
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lol, Bill James is nothing in the world BUT an incorrigible contrarian. His entire career from 1970-whatever to today has unceasingly been him asserting the exact opposite of whatever the prevailing wisdom is. About baseball the first few decades, then once he became famous, about everything. I think he's a really great writer (many others vehemently disagree, YMMV) but anytime you pick up anything written by Bill James you can lay 1000 to 1 it's going to argue against whatever most people believe about whatever subject it's on. Contrarianism is a neurosis for him.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:01
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It's rad when it was just like "batting average is actually dumb" maybe a little less so when it's "Joe Paterno did nothing wrong" or "the Republican Party was completely innocent in the rise of Trump"
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Apr 30, 2018 20:56
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Eric the Mauve posted:lol, Bill James is nothing in the world BUT an incorrigible contrarian. His entire career from 1970-whatever to today has unceasingly been him asserting the exact opposite of whatever the prevailing wisdom is. About baseball the first few decades, then once he became famous, about everything. Sounds like my kind of guy, why would anybody take the time to write something people are just going to agree with?
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